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Carl on May 1, 2017 8:31 AM
MAY DAY!  MAY DAY!
Happy May birthdays to:

Gene Fields - May 1  --  TODAY
Wayne Alvis - May 7
Doug Neal - May 18
Alice Sue Worrell White - May 25
Sonja Saunders White - May 31
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Fredrick Lucas on May 1, 2017 6:20 PM
I would like to wish our classmates who are celebrating birthdays in May happy birthday. May you celebrate many more.

Yesterday, I ate at the Sherman House Inn in Batesville Indiana. The Inn was founded in 1852.There was a Roman Catholic Sister who was celebrating her 95th birthday. I wished her a happy birthday. I hope that she will have many more birthdays.

There are signs in Indiana that say if you enjoy your meals thank a farmer.Indiana supports many farms.

May 5th is cinco de Mai.
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Fredrick Lucas on May 1, 2017 6:30 PM
For those who don't know Mexican history, Cinco De Mayo or May 5 is celebrated as a Mexican victory over France whose army tried to take over Mexico. The French effort was a failure.
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Carl on May 1, 2017 9:05 PM
Fredo, sometimes fate lends a blessed hand, as in the battle of Cinco de Mayo, 1862.  Take it from one who can attest to how absolutely dreadful the croissant taco is.
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Carl on May 2, 2017 11:17 AM
Fred, today is the 69th birthday of the State of Israel.  That's nearly as old as you, isn't it?  Quite an accomplishment for both, I'd say.
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Mike Murphy on May 3, 2017 9:51 AM
Enjoyed last nights dinner at Ryans. Doug and Tracy thanks for continuing to promte. WE CERTAINLY HAVE A GOOD GROUP OF GRADS. I encourage every one to attend.

??Food is also much better, I found several shrimp in the Jamboli.
??Keep the faith
Mike
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Carl on May 4, 2017 8:33 PM
Dear PHS60 classmates,
   The Blog is now 7+ years old, and my memories of you nearly tenfold.  So I'll sum up my opinion of you in 2 words:
  
You're ACES! 
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Mike Murphy on May 5, 2017 12:18 PM
??Seven years and still can't spell?

??Seriously Carl - Thanks much for your magnificent hosting of the bigleyest blog ever!

Keep the Faith
Mike
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Fredeick Lucas on May 5, 2017 9:02 PM
??I went to the Seaver Funeral Home and saw a listing for Edward Effron who died last week in Princeton. He graduated from PHS and the University of Cincinnati, Go Bearcats, with a degree in Political Science.The obituary explained that he studied the guitar with Arnold Palmer.He lived in Florida for a time but returned to Princeton where he hiked the trails at Pipestem

??There were no survivors listed.Was he related the the Effron who owned the Army Navy surplus store in Princeton? That man had a son named Eddie Effron. Perhaps Darla can clairfy

 
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Thomas Dillon on May 7, 2017 7:27 PM
Eddie Effron actually died much earlier this year. My brother send out an email on February 9th reporting that Eddie had been found dead in his shower. He was a person of habit and when his neighbors didn't see him for some time, they called the police. As of that date, no further information was available. There was no service. Eddie was a close school buddy of my brother, Bobby, as well as Danny Taylor, Billy Brown, and Tommy St.Clair. There should have been an obit in the BDT closer to the February date.
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Fredrick Lucas on May 8, 2017 11:04 AM
Thanks for the information concerning Eddie Effron Tom. Hope that you and your family are doing well. Since my brother Steve was in that class , I sent him an E-Mail  about the death.
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Fredrick Lucas on May 9, 2017 8:39 AM
I was in Princeton on April 21. I went to the Concord Alumni Dinner. There I talked with Mary Jane Shumaker, Frank's younger sister. She is the only one of her family to be alive. The rest smoked cigarettes. 

I also talked with Gail Rector. She's had knee surgery and various back problems. She's walking with a cane.

Carl, I'm not planning to stir up the pot. Mike gets stirred up when I do that.


 
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Carl on May 9, 2017 9:35 AM
Fredo, don't you worry none about being catnip to a certain Irishman.  Like many of us, he sometimes gets his dander up, but I know him pretty well and can assure you that he's harmless.  Go on, poke the bear if you must.   ;-)
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Fredrick Lucas on May 10, 2017 6:06 AM
Carl, as you and others can see, I've been submitting information about people who were not members of PHS '60. 

When I attend the Concord Alumni dinners, I get to interact with graduates of all ages. Also, I can drink wine or beer and listen to a combo playing easy listening music. I requested Georgia on My Mind by Johnny Mercer which they played.

The PHS reunions are different. I interact with a restricted  group. Fred
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Carl on May 10, 2017 11:28 AM
Fredo, as the saying goes, "Variety is the spice of life."  And congratulations on living what appears to be a well spiced one.  There's also much to be said for the stability of the familiar, the connection to roots and the comfort of old friends.
   You mentioned the American popular music genius Johnny Mercer, an absolute favorite of mine -- "my huckleberry friend."  While he doesn't share the acclaim of Cole Porter or Irving Berlin, I find him very much their equal.  Long live the Johnny Mercer songbook!  [BTW, the wonderful "Georgia on My Mind" is a Hoagy Carmichael composition.  Mercer was, however, a Georgia native.]
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Fredrick Lucas on May 10, 2017 7:27 PM
Carl you are right about Hoagy.He was from the Hoosier state.He did write Georgia on my Mind. Mercer who did not attend Mercer School wrote the lyrics to Moon River.Mancini wrote the music.Mercer was a native of Savannah Georgia.
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Mike Murphy on May 11, 2017 6:59 PM
Where did you guys get all this Culture?

??Carol, Darla, Pete and Ed are you folks OK?
Keep the Faith
Mike
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Carl on May 11, 2017 8:19 PM
Simple Murph, Fredo & I were in Frances Moody's A Cappella Choir.  On top of that -- or beneath it -- we were social misfits who listened to LOTS of radio.
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Darla on May 13, 2017 7:50 AM
Mike....We are fine.  Enjoyed seeing you at Ryan's.  
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Tracy French on May 12, 2017 11:55 AM
Does Dick Biondi or Harry Gentry ring a bell?
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Carl on May 12, 2017 2:05 PM
Tracy, don't believe I know that Gentry fellow.  As for the other guy I have 3 words: Whatta Luminous Station!
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Cookie on May 12, 2017 6:50 PM
Harry was the guy who gave the famous carhop her name--"Big Foot Wanda!" and he and his family lived in the Thornton Homes--where Andy Clark Ford now stands at the Green Tree Crossroads.  Next!
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Carl on May 12, 2017 10:15 PM
Cookie, my dear, you know how I hate to quibble, but to refer to "Big Foot Wanda" as a "famous" carhop is insufficient.  Wanda was, by any measure, "legendary."  Wait, . . . , make that LEGENDARY!!!.  Oh, forgive me now, I must go take my nitroglycerine pill.  ['Kathump, kathump, kathump . . .]
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Cookie on May 12, 2017 10:58 PM
She used to buy her sweaters from me when I worked at Leggetts my senior year in high school.  She was one of the nicest people I ever assisted.  Always smiling, always pleasant.  A nice personality.  
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Cookie on May 12, 2017 10:59 PM
P.S.
Just put your phone on speed dial to 911.  You will be fine.  
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Mike Murphy on May 13, 2017 12:45 PM
??Is it true that people with large body parts have great personality?

??Raymond Kidwell is this a truism?

??Also I wounder what Jeff Shumaker thinks about the Russian medeling? As I recall he worked there for some time and also in South Africa.

??Fred and Carl - what were the lyrics to the commercal about Steeles drive inn?

Keep the Faith
Mike
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Carl on May 13, 2017 9:49 PM
Help me Murph, or others:
1. I recall liking the Steele's Drive-In song but I have no memory of what is was like.  Pat Smith, call me and hum a few bars.  [I promise to let the answering machine pick up.]
2. How 'bout some others helping Tracy with his Dick Biondi inquiry.
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Fredrick Lucas on May 14, 2017 9:14 AM
 I don't recall the commercial about Steels Drive Inn. There is an actual river called Moon River aboutwhich Johnny Mercer wrote. It is an inlet in Savannah Georgia.

Bruce Trinkley an alumnus of PHS has done a good job as a music professor. He earned degrees in music from Columbia University.He was a faculty member and choral conductor at Penn State.His students made CD's which I donated to the music CD collection that I donated to Concord. After he retired, he arranged music and wrote an opera which was performed in Spanish in Equador.His works are on youtube.


 
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Tom Dillon on May 14, 2017 9:59 AM
Happy Day to all mothers -- present, departed, and away from us by geography. You mean so much to us and had such a significant impact on who we are today. We love you.
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Mike Murphy on May 14, 2017 10:42 AM
Tom you said it so well - happy mothers day to all.

Keep the Faith
Mike
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Mike Murphy on May 14, 2017 12:57 PM
??Carl & Fred - If I recall and my memory etc is not as long as it used to be, the little ditty ended with - (something) ham, barbecue and french fried potatoes down at Steeles Drive Inn?

Wanda could sure fill out a tray! I think I mentioned before that my brother Jim RIP dated her.
??Like Billy Joel sang  keeping the faith
Mike
 
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Carl on May 14, 2017 1:16 PM
[to Pat Smith]:
   Pat, Pat she's our [radio] fan,
   If she can't do it, nobody can.

C'mon Pat, your classmates need you.
Help us out and earn our eternal gratitude.
OK, OK, you've already earned that, not least
for hosting our mini-reunions.  But we still need you.
And you know what they say about a friend in need
.
Please, jingle us.

 
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ched on May 14, 2017 3:26 PM
I  remember  the  WLOH adds  for  the drive in mentioning "big Footed " Wamda  !!!
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Tracy French on May 14, 2017 10:10 PM
FOR CRYING OUT LOUD!

How can you mention big-foot Wanda and not mention Smiley's?

Tom T Hall could have made a fortune if he would of drank a beer at Smiley's back in the day.
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Fredrick Lucas on May 15, 2017 8:11 AM
We've spoken of Harry Gentry an announcer for WLOH and Louise Gentry a member of PHS faculty.

In England Gentry referred to large land owners who were entitled to a coat of arms.They also had sterling personal qualities.You've heard of the landed gentry.Did Louise and Harry have a coat of arms?
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Carl on May 15, 2017 9:54 AM
Fred, I can't confirm it, but I once heard that Harry and Louise, being West Virginians, could only afford a Coat of Sleeves; they had to provide their own arms.
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Tracy French on May 15, 2017 8:14 AM
Talking about radio call letters, when I was working in DC around 62' or 63', a radio station, WPGC, ran a contest to see who could make the best slogan out of the call letters.

The winner came up with: "West Point Goes CoEd".  Who would of "thunk it" back in those days?

I ran into Harry Gentry's nephew working at the doctors' offices for Roanoke Memorial Hospital when I first started taking Carol there for her follow-ups from surgery about 5 years ago (I still see him when I am there).  He asked about my WV tags and when I said "Princeton" he asked if I knew a disc jockey from the 50's or 60's named Harry Gentry.

It's a small, small world!  Carl, you orught to write some poetry about that!


 
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Fredrick Lucas on May 15, 2017 6:48 PM
Tracy, I learned that in Indiana, students can get vouchers to attend Roman Catholic schools. As you know these schools are accredited and their courses are accepted by colleges and universities.

Is the school that your relative attends fully accredited? Since Roman Catholic schools are considered religious in nature, does the state where your relative lives give vouchers to religious schools?
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Tracy French on May 16, 2017 11:47 AM

Fred:

My 3 grandchildren attend Mercer Christian Acadamy.  Grades K 4 through 5th grade are at Maranatha Baptist Church on the Oakvale Road and Grades 6 through 12 are at Johnson's Chapel (Baptist) on Halls Ridge Road.  The school is fully accredited and there is no financial assistance of any kind other than Mercer County Schools will pay 75 cents per day per family for transportation if requested within 30 days of close of semester.  Children are responsible for their lunch which can be purchaed or carried to school.  Total cost for the 3 children will exceed $20,000.00 this year and there are no tax breaks available.


 
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Ched on May 16, 2017 5:03 PM
A quality (and Christian) education is  worth  the  expense. I  support  school vouchers  to allow  children to attend  the  school of  their choice  without undue financial burden !!  The public  schools are in some  cases  good but unfortunately have  removed our  creator from the halls !!
 Home  schooling is  also an option in some  cases !
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Mike Murphy on May 17, 2017 12:23 PM
??Tracy - We should open a religous academy. We could call it the Greasy Ridge, Sandlick, Kegley consolidated Religous Academy. Perhaps we could have Carl be our resident Poet emertius?

??At the very least we could have a great time educating the eurchians?

??Ched - we will need a music professor.

Keep the faith
Mike
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Cookie on May 17, 2017 10:54 PM
On the advice of an old (both literally and figuratively) friend we all know and adore I have spent the past 14 hours reading "Hillbilly Elegy." I will only say it explains my outrageous sometimes colorful language and rants here on the blog. It is genetic, especially when I fear "my people" have been maligned. It was a painful book to read but I'm going to read it again in case I missed anything. P.S. I had two Mamaws and two Papaws too. My Mamaws didn't carry guns but they sure knew how to "set you straight."
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Fredrick Lucas on May 18, 2017 8:35 PM
Dr Danny Wills PHS 64 died recently from a cardio arrest. He graduated from the College of Medicine at the West Virginia University and was a physician in Mercer County for many years. He was elected sheriff of Mercer County. He was a faithful member of First Baptist Church.

The obituary is on the Memorial  Funeral web site. 
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Carl on May 18, 2017 9:48 PM
Murph, I'm flattered beyond measure that you would select me as poet anything for your youth academy.  Tragically, however, through some convoluted legal machinations, I'm prohibited from coming within 300 yards of such sites.
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Mike Murphy on May 19, 2017 9:44 AM
??Carl- how about POET/JESTER?TENER?

??Keep the faith
Mike

 
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geno on May 19, 2017 2:58 PM
Mike, have you heard the latest news, I just heard the North Koreans have tampered with congress, and the senate and have influenced them to investigate Trump and the Russians.  Cookie how is Delores?, does any body know how much a 2 dollar ticket costs, I also wonder how much a 10 dollar hair cut costs, do we have a committee to investigate this? Most folks don't think this is important, and more importantly other folks don't care, I think we should investigate why folks don't care. Which is more important folks that don't know or folks that don't care? I was just wondering, but I'll bet the majority of you don't even care that I was wondering, and the rest of you didn't know I was wondering. there you have it in a nutshell.  A peanut. Just in case some of you were wondering. My guess is most of you don't care. ??
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Carl on May 19, 2017 3:31 PM
Well Geno, I for one sure care.  [As I like to say, an I for an I.]  Now I don't much understand what you're talking about, but I care all the same. Or maybe it's somewhat different, I don't know [but I care], and I care to know but don't know enough to know if I'm onto something or way off base.  And I don't have much to base that on, not even knowing Who's on first.  [But I know that I Don't Know's on third.]  I hope you don't find my reply real corny, even tho' I'm told that "Jimmy crack corn" -- but I don't care.  But I care about you.  Oo-da-lolly, oo-da-lolly, golly whatta a day.
   PS: I'm glad we had this talk.
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Cookie on May 19, 2017 10:04 PM
everyone on this thread sounds drunk!
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Carl on May 19, 2017 11:03 PM
High on life, darlin'.  [With a double shot of Roger Miller.]
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Ched on May 19, 2017 11:10 PM
Brush Creek bukk frogs make me  drunk with nostalgia!!!
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Tracy French on May 19, 2017 11:28 PM
Geno:

I wouldn't want you to think for one moment that I don't care.  It is a rare occassion but I have completed my sermon for Sunday (although it may very well change before 11:00 Am Sunday) and the title of this Sunday's sermon is:  "Do The Math".  Scripture from the Old Testament: Deutoronomy 4: 1-8, New Testament:  Matthew 7: 13-14.

A $2.00 ticket now cost $10.00 and you can blame the substantial increase in price due to inflation primarily caused by Jimmy Carter who ....

A $10.00 haircut now cost $2.00 and you can blame the decrease in price due to the number of people who get their ....

Do not put any dependance into what you heard about the North Koreans and Congress and the Senate.  At the present time, neither Congress nor the Senate has enough sense (I probablyshould have said cents) to be tampered with.  Lead astray?  Well maybe that's just Mike's opinion or Carl's opinion.

If you will excuse me, Harry Gentry is signing off and Dick Biondi is coming on the air.  Where am I?  Lost in the 60's?  I'm going to play my "Trump" card which means I'm a winner (just like Bobby Bare said).


 
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Mike Murphy on May 20, 2017 1:51 PM
??Tracy- You've got to walk that lonsome valley!

??Melania sure looked good in that red leather dress. Cookie did they have those at leggets? I bet it cost a pretty penny?

Have the democrats and the liberal press gone Bat Stuff Crazy??

Keep the faith
??Mike
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Cookie on May 20, 2017 10:54 PM
No Mike. Nothing for Melania at Leggetts in 1960
unless she liked $1 blouses from Japan that smelled like fish when you opened the box and made you itch when you wore them in summer heat and humidity
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Mike Murphy on May 21, 2017 12:50 PM
??The Saudi's are giving the Trumps' a Royal welcome. Unusal - American Flags flying, Toby Keith giving concert, Jewish Daughter and son in law being welcomed and 80+ yr old king accompanying Trump everwhere. The arms sale package is a big thing for both countries and Trump speaking at the Arab summit is exceptional. Genuine respect shown on both sides with no bowing and appologies.

??I did the sword dance at a Saudi wedding and probably looked as aquard as Trump, but it was a great time.

Trump family made the USA proud!

Keep the Faith
Mike 
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ched on May 21, 2017 2:10 PM
Yes, Quite   a  contrast between Obummer's  visit  and  Trump's.  A true respect paid  to all by everyone  !
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Fredrick Lucas on May 22, 2017 11:41 AM
Yesterday, the Barnum Baily Circus held their final performance in the Big Apple after a 150 year run. Attendance has been down. The elephants will be retired to California. Over the years, I have seen the Barnum Baily Circus, and the Shrine Circus in Cincinnati.

If you go to the west coast California, you will be asked to refrain from feeding sea lions. Recently a fourteen year old girl fed a lion and was pulled into the water. Happily her grandfather saved her.

Finally, Sears is continuing to close Stores. 
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Mike Murphy on May 22, 2017 1:09 PM
Does anyone remember Joe Byflitzh?

Let the sun shine in
Mike
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Tracy French on May 22, 2017 9:54 PM
Mike: 

Are you talking about the character in the  Lil' Abner cartoon who always had the rain cloud above his head when he came to visit? 

I done a sermon several years ago when I spoke before a group of pastors from the Presbyterian Church USA prior to being commissioned to serve Communion.  I don't remember everything in that sermon but I do remember using that character during my sermon.  At the time time I could not remember his name and I called a friend of mine who was into the cartoons and she called Al McCoy (who I believe owned the drive in near Mooney's and between Mooney's and the Courthouse on the Bluefield Road) and Al said his name was Joe Blitzkoph, that sounded close enough for me and I have used that character in a couple sermons since.

This past Sunday I used "Dagwood" from the cartoon "Blondie" as I referred to a time period before computers when you would see Mr. Diters asking Dagwood a mathematical question and he computed in his head with a series of special characters above his head as he spit out the answer.

Why is it we reminiscence so much any more?
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Tracy French on May 22, 2017 10:06 PM
Mike:

I just "googled" Lil Abner and came up with a list of characters.  It is actually "Joe BtfsplK, if that is what you are reerring to and it is plenty close enough for government work.  Following is the pronouncation:

How else would you pronounce it?

— Al Capp

According to Al Capp, btfsplk is a rude sound. During public lectures, Capp demonstrated this sound by closing his lips, leaving his tongue sticking out, and then blowing out air, which is colloquially called a "raspberry" or Bronx cheer.


 
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Carl on May 22, 2017 10:14 PM
Please pardon my repeating myself, but I say oo-da-lolly, oo da lolly, golly whatta day.  Joe Btfsplk or no Joe Btfsplk.
 
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Mike Murphy on May 23, 2017 5:39 PM
??I remember Doug Coburn drawing lil Abner characters. He was a good artist as well as a great friend.

??My favorite was Daisey May

Keep the Faith
Mike
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Carl on May 23, 2017 9:00 PM
Gosh a'mighty Mike, why was Daisy Mae your favorite?
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Mike Murphy on May 24, 2017 1:00 PM
??She was sweet and had big feet?
Keep the humor
Mike
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Fredrick Lucas on May 26, 2017 6:34 AM
I am a member of the Audubon Society. Recently, the group joined explorer.org/birds. The site has live streaming from various nesting birds.I enjoy the site .

Monroe County and Peters Mountain are fly over sites for eagles and hawks. There is an observatory for those who want to see these birds of flight.
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Fredrick Lucas on May 26, 2017 8:14 AM
Robert Burns wrote an address to a Haggis in 1796".The basic premise of the poem is that haggis made of ingredients scorned by the higher classes is the stuff thatb made the Scots strong and robust."  

" Welcome your honest, jolly, face Great chieftan of the pudding race.Above them all you take your place Stomach, tripe,or intestines:Well are you worthy of a grace as long as my arm.

The groaning serving plate there you fill Your buttocks like a distant hill Your pin would help to mend a mill In time of need  While through your pores the dews distill like amber bead.

His knife see rustic labour seize and cut you up with ready slice Trenching your gushing entrails bright  Like any ditch And then, Oh what a glorius sight Warm steaming rich. Carl and I have Scottish ancestors.

               '
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Mike Murphy on May 26, 2017 9:43 AM
??I have eaten Hagas and it is about as crappy as Burns' poem.

Carl - bless us with some of your amazing Poetry!

Keep the faith
Mike
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Carl on May 26, 2017 10:23 AM
[paraphrased] Oh, the gift that God would gie us, Fredo, to have Scottish ancestors be us [i.e., ours]. 
   I acknowledge that a miserable Appalachian wretch as I need proceed cautiously in challenging Scotland's National Bard, but I've eaten haggis and can support no argument that it's a "gift" of even a modest measure.

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Tracy French on May 26, 2017 8:56 PM
Anybody remember 57 years ago tonight?
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Tracy French on May 26, 2017 9:21 PM
After careful consideration and much thought over the last almost 60 years I am going to go ahead and acknowledge that Howard Durr was right.  I do wish I had learned Chemistry as he often said I would.
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Carl on May 26, 2017 9:42 PM
Tracy, I think Mr. Durr was wise beyond his years, but many of us thought him to be old almost beyond measure in the late 50s.  I came to like and admire him AFTER having taken chemistry to him.  So many good teachers -- not all mind you -- at PHS in the late 50s.  So many good PHS60 grads reflecting their influence.
   57 years later, it bears repeating:
Dear Princeton High School, our love, our pride,
We’ve always held you as our shining guide.
Our joys, our sorrows, hopes dreams and fears,
We’ve shared in PHS halls will live thru coming years.   

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Tracy French on May 27, 2017 11:41 AM
Carl, I agree, Mr. Durr was wise beyond his years and he was an excellent teacher.  In the late 70's and early 80's I had the opportunity to visit with him in his home when he was a member of my home church, Melrose Presyterian Church.  Mr. Durr's son, Ted, was the volunteer coordinatior at Bland Correctional Center where I was involved in Prison Ministry for many years.  That connection was beneficial to me in getting many doors opened that otherwise would not have been available to me in the Virginia Prison System.

Mrs Ball was another teacher I enjoyed at PHS  She always said if one of us could invent "Perpetual Energy" we would become very wealthy.  I thought I had conquered that milestone one day when I had 3 grandchildren under the age of 10 home from school on a snow day but I had to get away from the "energy" before developing a plan to store and release it at will.

Carl on May 27, 2017 4:07 PM
Tracy, isn't trouble getting doors opened in the Virginia prison system -- and others -- pretty much a standard design feature?
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Ched on May 27, 2017 2:50 PM
Mr  Durr, Mrs Ball and  Cam Wiley (  Geometry)  were all great  teachers. We  were  fortunate  to have  so many  excellent ones who prepared us  well .   Just look at our  class  as  a  group. I have  alayse been  amazed  when  I think of  the members of our  class  from a  small town in southern WV.
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Fredrick Lucas on May 27, 2017 2:51 PM
I would like to share another poem by Robert Burns. "A Red Red Rose" O my love's like a red red rose That's newly sprung in June.O my love's like a melody that's sweetly played in tune.

As fair art thou. my bonnie lass.so deep in love am I;And I will love thee still my dear, till all the seas go dry.

Till all the seas go dry my dear And the rocks melt with the sun. O I will love thee still my dear,While the sands of life still run.

And fare thee well my only love And fare thee well a while.And I will come again my love. Tho twere ten thousand miles.

Mike perhaps you can send a poem from the Irish group.




 
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Carl on May 27, 2017 4:03 PM
Fredo, here's an oldie but goodie that may well be Irish.  I remember it from a textbook around 6th grade, I think.  It hooked me on what remains one of my favorite poetic structures:
   There once was a man from Nantucket,
   Who kept all his cash in a bucket.
   His daughter, named Nan,
   Ran away with a man,
   And as for the bucket, Nantucket.

I can see you smiling right now, Fred.
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Tracy French on May 27, 2017 6:27 PM
Fred and Carl; I appreciate the poetry.  I, too, committed “A Red, Red Rose” to memory when I was in high school. And I like the “Irish” language, a little better than the “English”.
 
I think “Nantucket” was a 6th grade read by none other than Bessie Hale who not only had time to teach but also allowed her musically gifted students time to entertain the class.
 
Following is a poem (author unknown) that I saw in a magazine many years ago and it impressed me enough to commit it to memory.  (Sounds Irish to me)
 
I saw them tearing a building down
A gang of men in a busy town.
With a heave-ho, and a lusty yell
They swung a beam and the side wall fell.

And I asked the foreman, “Are these men skilled,
And the ones you’d hire if you had to build?”
He laughed and answered, “ Why no, indeed,
Common labor is all I need.”

“For I can wreck in a day or two,
What builders have taken years to do.”
And I thought to myself, as I walked away
Which of these roles have I tried to play?

Am I a builder who works with care
Measuring life by rule and square?
Or am I a wrecker who roams the town
Content with tearing it down?


For my sermon tomorrow I am going to read The Declaration of Independence to the congregation.

 
 
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Carl on May 29, 2017 7:43 AM
Happy Memorial Day all.  It's the unofficial start of summer.
And it means that June BIRTHDAYS are right around the corner.

HAPPY BIRTHDAY to the following PHS60'ers (and any other Junebugs whose birthdates I don't know):

Sarah Evans Allen - June 3
Edward Laufer - June 4
Kay Hendrick Gammon - June 14
Tom Dillon - June 21
Aloma Rose Ashworth - June 25
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Mike Murphy on May 29, 2017 6:53 PM
??A special thanks to all those Vets esp those who made the ultimate sacrifice!

a preme ??Happy birthday to all June 60 grads.

??Who sang - in the summertime when all the trees and leaves are green and I'll be blue?

Keep the faith
Mike
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Fredrick Lucas on May 30, 2017 11:04 AM
I would like to remember those who are celebrating June birthdays. May they have many more birthdays.

I would like to remember those who served in the armed forces from the American Revolution until today.Although many lost their lives, others survived. For some who survived, they faced PTSD. Some turned to alcoholism while others became homeless.Some became blind while others had limbs that were taken off.
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Fredrick Lucas on May 30, 2017 10:18 PM
The Road Not Taken Robert Frost. Two toads diverged in a yellow wood,And sorry I xould not travel both,And be one traveler lobg I stood And looked down one far as I could.To where it bent in the undergroth.

Then took the other as just as fair, And having perhaps the better claim vecause it was grassy and wanted wear;Though as for that, the passing there Had worn them really about the same.

Anf both that morning equally lay In leaves no step had trodden black., Oh I kept the first for another day'Yet knowing how way leads on to way.I doubted that I should ever come back.

I shall be telling this with a sigh Somewhere ages and ages hence: Two roads diverged in a wood. and I-I took the one less traveled by,and that has made all the difference.
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Carl on May 31, 2017 10:45 AM
Fredo, that's a beauty, alright.  And while not a poem, there's good counsel in the advice of that great New York Yankee philosopher, Yogi Berra, who said, "When you come to a fork in the road, take it."
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Fredrick Lucas on June 1, 2017 3:05 PM
Over the years, we've discussed various songs. I decided to relay a poem by Robert Frost concerning a song bird.

I have wished that a bird would fly away.And not sing by my house all day;

Have clapped my hands at him from the door When it seemed as if I could bear no more.

The fault must paetly have been in me. The bird was not to blame for his key.

And of course there must be something wrong in wanting to silence any song.




 
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Tracy French on June 2, 2017 11:30 AM
Fred:

Your post about Robert Frost and the song bird brought to my mind one of my favorite songs from the 60's which I heard for the first time in 1964 when I was home on leave from the Army.  "The Sound of Silence" by Simon and Garfunkel.
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Mike Murphy on June 2, 2017 12:51 PM
??Poor Hillary - Someone needs to tell her that Macadonia is not in Russia. Perhaps a long walk in the woods would salve her wounds? I am looking at some poker chips from LE GRAND SKOPJE, 1 and 5 DM which should kind of date them since they have had the EURO since 2002. Don't remember what their currency was when I was there in 98. Tracy there were some really old Christian Churches there. In addition to Alexander being born there wasn't Christianity founded in that area? It was once part of the USSR as Yugo? i think.
 

??For sure Trump is not a Politician. He could have gone along with the Paris Climate agreement and ignored payoffs to India and China and reductions in our industries, but instead took the problem head on and drove the tree hugging liberals crazy. I agree with his son Eric, that the libs would rather see the US fail than for President Trump to suceed.

Fair warning - I heard a rumor that Kenna and Fredricksburg might be represented at Ryans next week?

Keep the Faith
??Mike   
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Tom Dillon on June 3, 2017 4:26 PM
Received the invite to the mini in today's mail. Thanks Carl. Kay and I are definitely planning to attend.
Is it being too optomistic to put the 2020 date for our 60th on my calendar? Bob Lambert, is that enough notice for you?
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Fredrick Lucas on June 4, 2017 8:35 AM
What Fifty Said by Robert Frost. When I was young, my teachers were old. I gave up fire for form till I was cold. I suffered like a metal being cast. I went to school to age to learn the past.

Now I am old my teachers are young.What can't me molded must br cracked and sprung.I strain at lessons fit to start a suture.I go to school to youth to learn the future.
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Fredrick Lucas on June 4, 2017 7:59 PM
One of Robert Frost's well known poems is Fire and Ice. Some say the world will end in fire,Some say in ice. From what I've tasted of desire, I hold with those who favor fire.But if it had to perish twice, I think I know enough of hate To say that for destruction ice is also great And would suffice.

 
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Fredrick Lucas on June 4, 2017 9:31 PM
The mini reunion is October 21.Virginia Tech plays North Carolina at home.You might want to change the date since there are a number of Tech fans in the area. Fred
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Carl on June 4, 2017 11:52 PM
Say Fred, do you suppose that James Taylor is a Robert Frost clone, or want-to-be?  After all, he wrote, "I've seen fire and I've seen rain."  Talk about really getting around.
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Edward Laufer on June 5, 2017 10:41 PM
Thanks Carl for the singing ecard from the class of 1960 for my GULP! 75th birthday It is really hard to say 75th birthday! Ed Laufer
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Carl on June 6, 2017 6:43 AM
Edward, just look at it this way; you'll be singing and shouting [and perhaps dancing] your birthday celebration on your 90th.  Take care; stay well.
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mike Murphy on June 6, 2017 2:23 PM
Watched Noal in 4K, which has to be the worst movie I have ever seen! Don't waste you money.

??Like much of the old testiment Noah and Jonah and Methusula seem more like fairy tales than scripture? Much of the Koran reflects the old testiment. Although the Prophet Mohammed was said to have heard the words directly from God. He could not read or write so one of his wifes who was said to be very literate wrote his words. 

More reasons to keep the Faith
Mike
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Fredrick Lucas on June 8, 2017 1:42 PM
Today Barbara Bush turned 92. Next week George HW Bush will turn 93.As I looked in the obituaries in Princeton, I noticed that a number of women who worked at Maidenform were in their 90's when they died. Edward, there is still work to be done. Happy Birthday Fred

 
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Tracy French on June 8, 2017 11:44 PM
Ed:  There's no way.  You can't be 75.  You must be in the middle of a nightmare.  We just got out of high school.  The whole world is before us.  I haven't even decided what I want to do in life yet.  I can't get out of the 60's.  Where have all the flowers gone?
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geno on June 9, 2017 4:07 PM
I thought I was the only one in the 60's I like it here welcome to my word, all d flowers are in the hippies hair, I can't believe you haven't n oticed.??
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Fredrick Lucas on June 10, 2017 3:41 PM
Speaking of the'60's. I spoke with Jim Farris who was at PHS as a student. I spoke with him about 20 years ago when he lived in Bloomington Indiana.He was employed by Indiana University. He collected delinquent student loans.He managed to collect 97% of the loans. The hippies who stayed in Bloomington, refused to pay.

Jim would see them outside the gate each day.He did not understand where they worked to earn enough to live.
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Edward Laufer on June 10, 2017 11:14 PM
Hi Tracy Hi Fred Hi Carl Now about my 75th birthday. When I was young way back it seemed to be that days went by fast,but years went by slowly and now the days go by slowly but the years fly by. My wife Sandy has given me some mathematical reason for this perception. So I guess time will speed up even more Oh Well!
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Tracy French on June 11, 2017 6:32 AM
I have a message on my phone from yesterday from Patty Anderson that said Pete Stephenson had a stroke and was in Roanoke Hospital.  I will try to find out more details after I come in from church this afternoon and will post on the blog.  Patty said the family is requesting prayer for Pete.
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Mike Murphy on June 11, 2017 9:54 AM
??Praying for Pete. Get well soon Big guy ie in size and heart!

Keep the Faith
Mike
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Cookie on June 11, 2017 10:00 AM
SO VERY sorry to hear this.  My thoughts and prayers to Pete, Linda and their family.
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Fredrick Lucas on June 11, 2017 4:48 PM
I don't know the severity of the stroke.I will certainly keep Pete and his family in my prayers.There is a book by Dr. Jill Bolte Taylor called My Stroke of Insight.She is a brain scientist who had a stroke and discusses what happened to her and how she eventually recovered. She is on several youtube sites.

I hope that everyone else will have their blood pressure checked regularly for an irregular heart beat.


 
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Tracy French on June 11, 2017 6:31 PM
Update on Pete:

The stroke is severe and he remains in the trauma unit at Roanoke.  The outlook is up and a speialist will see him tomorrow.

When I have more news I will post it on the blog.
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Tracy French on June 12, 2017 10:20 AM
Update on Pete:

Pete posted on Facebook at 9:30 AM that he had gone through 5 hours of surgery at Charleston CAMC and is doing OK.

He is in Charleston and not Roanoke.
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ched on June 12, 2017 9:01 PM
I talked  to Bob Lambert today and he  told me  about Pete. Prayers  for  Pete's full recovery.  I'm sure Linda can nurse him back to his "onery ole  self"
Since he had  a  carodid  artery proceedure it  would  seem he had  a "blockage stoke" as opposed  to a hemorrhagic one.
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Tom Dillon on June 12, 2017 9:29 PM
Praying for Pete. Didn't check blog for a couple of days as we were enroute to Florida for our oldest son's wedding on Wednesday. Arrived yesterday afternoon and it has yet to stop raining.
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bummer.O Lucas on June 14, 2017 6:46 PM
There  are two men at the fitness center who have had a stroke.One man has a limited ability to form sentences and paragraphs.He can speak one or two words. He lost the use of his left hand and arm. Another man forgets conversations. He lost the use of his left arm and hand.He is gradually getting use of his left leg.

What has happened to Pete? I wasn't surprised  to learn that he and Ron Coleman had to go to Charleston. Mercer County cannot attract the specialists who can treat strokes and cardiac arrests.

There are trade offs for those who want to live in a rural and small town area.

I was surprised and saddened when Ched referred to President Obama as Oburmmer. Our first black president  gets no respect from Ched
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Pete Stephenson on June 15, 2017 11:00 AM
Ah-ha.....I'm back "from the EDGE"...read all your notes, thanks for your prayers and concern. Had a pretty rough patch...apparently I've had about 2 or 3 slight strokes prior to the one Fri evening...went to ER, they have no neurologists in PCTN..so sent me to Charleston Area Med Ctr...can't say enough good about the facility, doctors, nurses and entire staff....what amazing care. Got there about 2:45 AM Sat, they started tests, etc immediately...put me in a room, seem like I was doing OK they planned to do surg Tues, however, apparently I had another stroke TIA??..about 9PM Sat...they did emergency surgery around 10PM until 2AM...couldn't do stint because I have a "crook" in rt carotid artery which was 99% blocked...don't know exactly what they did but I think they had to actually open artery and scrape it out (all you with med knowledge can tell me what they did) was in recovery until 4AM...doc said less than 1% of stroke patients have this surgery and fewer than that come out with no paralysis....Praise God, I have no paralysis, as far as I know my thinking, etc is clear as ever (no smart remarks accepted)...Praise God (for I am here and doing well by HIS Love, Mercy and Grace), eat healthy, exercise...things we all know to do. You guys can't get rid of me that easy....Faith, Hope and Love...
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Mike Murphy on June 15, 2017 1:22 PM
Pete- Great to hear that you are progressing so well. Hope and pray you continue to improve.

??I live 30 Min from CAMC Memorial and will be most happy to do anything I can for you and family. Call me at 304.545.3335 and I will help you and family any way I can!!

??My wife Aretta had a stint applied by CAMC staff DR. Statton last November and every thing was great. She is recuperating well. Hope you have same folks looking after you. Be sure to insist on good care some times the nursing staff were a little lax esp in the ICU.

Keep the Faith and get well soon!!
Mike
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geno on June 15, 2017 2:35 PM
    Pete glad to read your blog, ability ti write-type after stroke and praise God very very good news, sounds to me like a miracle, read Fred's blog earlier, just glad and happy for you take care praise the Lord and be happy.??
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Ched on June 15, 2017 5:21 PM
Fred, If Obama had been a  good  president ; providing  for the national defense,  nurturing  the  economy, securing  the borders and done  anything positive  with health care he  would have my  respect.  Instead he  gutted  the  defense  department,  wanted  to admit  millions of imigrants  with no way to vet  them, increased  taxes,  stifeled  energy  exploration, protected  sanctuary cities ( to get more  democrat votes) and gave us "obamacare" an absolute  disasterous piece of legislation.  
 Then there is  the politicized  DOJ   with holder  and Lynch ....... on and on.
 THe basic  diference in  the  current  Democrat  agenda  and  the  Rebublican one is  that  the Dems  want  to redistribute  wealth  to those too lazy  to  contribute from those  who have worked hard  and  contribute  to  society. We need to have  a  safety net  for  the truly impoverished but  when I see  people at he  grocery store  buying  chips, sodas and  other  so called junk food along  with lobster or  steak talking on a  cell phone, they do not  get my  sympathy.... then as  they leave  the "light up" !!!  Food  stamps  should be for essential healthy nourishment only not to allow luxurious meals.  When I was  smaller people  were mostly ashamed  to be on the public dole. Nowo it's a way to game  the  system.  I ,as well as most of my  friends  and classmates  are just plain tired of  this stuff !!!
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ched on June 15, 2017 5:00 PM
Pete,  So glad  that  the  flood of prayers  were answered as  they were.  You are very  fortunate.
 Did  you have  a multiple TIAs or full  blown strokes?
 My dad had  two TIAs  many years  ago and had  the  carotid  arteries stinted.  Ive heard it  said  that  the TIA is a "wake-up call" to have  things  corrected  and  start out on a healthy lifestyle.
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Fredrick Lucas on June 16, 2017 10:18 AM
Ched, even though I have profound disagreements with President Trump, I don't plan to pick out a derogatory name and call him that name.Children need to know that we can have different policy perspectives and still be cordial to others. Mr Obama was willing to serve and the citizens decided to elect him for two terms.

Do you blame the citizens who voted  for Mr. Obama?
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Ched on June 16, 2017 10:51 AM
Yep  many were looking  for  the " free  stuff" paid  for by you and I.
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Fredrick Lucas on June 16, 2017 2:39 PM
Pete, I am happy that you were able to get to Charleston and have surgery. You pointed out that although you have had strokes, you don't have paralysis or mental problems.You carry on conversations with others. 
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pete stephenson on June 17, 2017 11:30 AM
Ched. I actually had 3 TIA's in 3 consecutive weeks.being hard headed as i am i just shund them off.all of them were serious with numbing in left hand and left corner of my mouth.The last one finally awoke me to the fact to get my tail to the ER.The young Dr.here at the ER actually saved my life.By getting me to CAMC neurogical dept in Charleston.My DRS there were planning on the operation fo this past Tues.While in ICU Sat night I started having another episode in my left hand and left corner of my mouth.Had the emergency surgery Sat night about three in morning.I couldn't have stents because my Carodid artery had a kink in it.I praise the Good Lord for looking over me,I surely wasn't.The only Paralysis I have is in the very tip of my left thumb,Thinks to all your caring and concerns.Faith,Hope,And Love
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Fredrick Lucas on June 17, 2017 8:28 PM
Many of you know the Parks brothers Mac and Jim. Mac was in our class and Jim was in the class of 59.Mac usually comes to our reunions.Jim graduated from Concord. He received a doctorate from the University of Alabama. Last week Jim died. He was 75. His obituary is on the Seaver web site.



 
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Fredrick Lucas on June 18, 2017 7:40 AM
Jim Parks was a retired  faculty membrt from Middle Georgia Collrgr in Cochran Georgia He was a member of the Cochran Baptist Churvh and a sports fan of the Alabama Crimson Tide. Go Bucks.
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Fredrick Lucas on June 18, 2017 12:35 PM
I was listening to Science Friday on NPR. I learned that this week is Cephalopod week.Members of this group are the octopus and squid. The octopus is one of the most unusual sea creatures. When mating, the male must be careful otherwise the female will eat him.  The octopus who tries to mate sometimes encounters an adult male who will stop the younger male from mating. From time to time the octopus will squirt ink.
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Carl on June 19, 2017 4:44 PM
Fredo, in case you haven't noticed, there are visitors to our Blog who like to squirt ink -- journalistically speaking.
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Ched on June 20, 2017 10:39 AM
Pete, 
 So glad  you are OK. keep a healthy life style. Diet  and  excercise  are  the keys. Also dont  forget  to do some  strength training ( lifting) along  with aerobics.   I am in the  gym most  days  and  swallow   several  well researched  supplements as  well.  
  All  the  best  to  you  and Linda  !!!!
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Pete Stephenson on June 20, 2017 4:12 PM
??Pete here.Thanks Ched you've always been a pal.I do try the exercise and diet but still get behind the eight ball.God blessed me no doubt.Must give all the glory to him.I'm doing ok,just a little shaky in the ole legs.Linda sys thinks for all the encouragement,and so do I.Faith,Hope And Love to you and our mates.Hope to see all in Oct.
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Becky Novarro on June 21, 2017 9:27 AM
HAPPY BIRTHDAY TOMMY AND MANY MORE.
Becky
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Ched on June 21, 2017 1:06 PM
Happy Happy  Birthday  Tom  !!!  Hope ypu have  a great one  !!!!
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Fredrick Lucas on June 21, 2017 3:37 PM
Happy birthday Tum.I hope that you remain healthy and continue to enjoy your family and friends and make positive contributions to your community, state and nation.

Whenever I drive through Indiana,I see signs that say if you enjoy your meal,thank a farmer. 

 
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Tom Dillon on June 21, 2017 5:27 PM
Thanks to all. Plan to see you in October.
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Tom Dillon on June 25, 2017 7:40 AM
Well, I won't attend the mini if that is what killed the blog for a few days.
Pete, so glad you are up and out. How about a game of touch football in October?
Fred, you have been super critical and in the past have written many negative things about issues in our great state of West Virginia. Will you speak to the opoid addiction and overdose problems in Ohio? Dayton has been labeled the "Opoid Capital" -- I thought Buckeyes had it all together -- must have had some help from another source other than moonshine from a neighboring state.
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Fredrick Lucas on June 25, 2017 8:58 AM
Tom, I am not certain to what you mean when I make negative comments about West Virginia. The president of Concord told me that faculty members haven't had a salary increase in six years.The fact that Pete had to go to Charleston for treatment is a problem for anyone living in a rural area or small town. People in Princeton who want the services of Planned Parenthood must drive to Blacksburg. People who live in McDowell County have seen the population decline from almost 100,000 in 1950 to less than 20,000 today.Coal miners who work underground often suffer from black lung. The brothel at cinder bottom is closed.These are facts of life in West Virginia Tom.

Ohio like West Virginia has a problem of heroin addiction.Tom what's your point? 




 
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Mike Murphy on June 25, 2017 9:47 AM
??Fred- You just amplified Tom's point! and I haven't heard Ched say anything racist about our first black president.

Pete - How are you doing - great I hope. Hope this finds you in the great city of Princeton enjoying the great atmosphere and culture there!

Keep the faith
Mike
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Fredrick Lucas on June 25, 2017 9:51 AM
According to data supplied by the Center for Disease Control, in 2015 West Virginia had 41.5 opoid deaths per 100.000 while Ohio had 29.9 deaths per 100,000.  Again Tom what is your point?



 
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Fredrick Lucas on June 25, 2017 10:45 AM
Mikie all I did was to cite data.What's negative about citing data? What is your point? West Virginia had the highest opioid death rate per 100,000 in the nation in 2015 according to the CDC. 41.5 vs. 29.9 in Ohio. Mikie where is your data?
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Fredrick Lucas on June 25, 2017 11:11 AM
MIke, I'm think that the term obummer is a disrespectful term for President  Obama.
 
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Fredrick Lucas on June 25, 2017 11:51 AM
According to the CDC Indiana had 16 opioid deaths per 100000 people. Kentucky had 29.9 deaths per 100,000. I am sad when anyone dies from an overdose of heroin or other harmful substances.

Dearborn County Indiana has a residential treatment facility connected to the county hospital. People with substance abuse problems are treated. Tom and Mike what are your points
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Mike Murphy on June 25, 2017 12:14 PM
Joe Blifitzh reincarnated?

??Libs have everyone believing that Medicaid is a blessing given by the constitution.  It is welfare pure and simple and should be available only to those deserving. WV and Ohio have overextended themselves with medicaid in the last few years and now must pay the piper. TINSTAAFL
??Carl - time for a poem?
Keep the faith
Mike


 
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Cookie on June 25, 2017 3:48 PM
For the 1,000th time......connect the dots Ohio!
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ched on June 25, 2017 5:32 PM
I agree  with Mike,  Medicade  is  a safety net not a  way for free medical.
?? And just  because BHO is partially black  does not make him a  strong leader of  a good  president.
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Fredrick Lucas on June 25, 2017 5:33 PM
Cookie, Tom asked me about the opioid problem in Ohio. I discussed that .One of the real problem areas is in Portsmouth which is a depressed community in southeastern Ohio.I wanted to highlight West Virginia,Kentucky and the Hoosier state.The CDC has a list of the opiod deaths in each state. I am sad that anyone should die.

Do you and Tom want to discuss the suppliers of these drugs? Cookie your discourse confuses me.


 
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Cookie on June 25, 2017 6:23 PM
Fredo I've been explaining it since the birth of the blog. Follow the money follow government policies, follow the progressive agenda and read Rules for Radicals. It's all there plain As the nose on your face. This isn't rocket science. Nuf said. Enjoy summer
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Fredrick Lucas on June 26, 2017 8:27 AM
Cookie, I thought that I would mention Otto Warmbier, the young man who was arrested in North Korea and who died last week. Several of his relatives are members of the temple where I worship.

The State Department has advised everyone to stay away from that country.I am sad that the young man was arrested and died.

The CDC data for Tennessee shows that in 2015 22 per 100,000 people died from opioid deaths. 
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Fredrick Lucas on June 26, 2017 12:52 PM
I am a member of the Greater Cincinnati Dayton Chapter of the WVU Alumni Association.During the past 16 years, we have awarded 18 academic scholarships worth one thousand dollars each to students from southwest Ohio who are attending WVU.

Tom do you put a positive value on the scholarships that we have awarded?


 
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Fredrick Lucas on June 27, 2017 7:11 AM
I had a thought about the gathering In October.We might put our group on youtube. Ched I'm am aware that you have problems with those who receive food stamps. You pay a lower tax rate on investment income and you get a mortgage deduction. 


 
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ched on June 27, 2017 1:29 PM
Fred,  Im not  sure  what your point is.
Food  stamp are fine with  the  following  caveats:
1) They  should be issued  to only  those in  real need not  as a  way of life  for  some "gaming  the  system". ( A 60 Minuits show  demonstrated how  this is  done )
2)  Although not limited under  current statutes,  food  stamps  should be used only for  certain  grocery food items  with  specific nutritional value. I am appalled  to see  a grocery  cart  full of  sodas, potato  chips and similar items being paid  for  with  food  stamps. Also luxury  foods  should be off  the  list  as  well.  Convenience  stores  also  accept food  stamps  and  do not  represent good value or nutrition in most cases
 BTW  I have no mortgage as  a  result of my hard  work and financial discipline,  the home is paid off !!!
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Fredrick Lucas on June 27, 2017 7:11 AM
I had a thought about the gathering In October.We might put our group on youtube. Ched I'm am aware that you have problems with those who receive food stamps. You pay a lower tax rate on investment income and you get a mortgage deduction. 


 
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Fredrick Lucas on June 27, 2017 11:26 AM
Last evening, I was invited to participate in a telephone town hall with Senator Rob Portman. He is concerned about the opioid epidemic.I learned that a number of substances are shipped from suppliers  from Chin to America.These substances are then shipped directly to those who are using heroin and other substances.The suppliers are using the United States Postal Service because the postal service doesn't check packages like FEDX and UPS.Another way people have been hooked happens when they have had surgery. Physicians prescribed opioids and they were hooked. One man reported that he had been shot several years earlier. He was given opioids to help with pain and he was hooked.

Tom, I don't use generalizations like positive or negative to characterize the way that you conduct yourself. Like the rest of us, you are nuanced in the way that you conduct yourself. 
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Carl on June 28, 2017 10:19 AM
Have ya missed me?  Arrived in Maine about 10 days back; PC completely crashed 3 days later.  Just now back in action, catching up on the PHS60 goings-on.  Hope all are OK; Pete, keep up the good recovery.  Mike, the poetry muse seems to have deserted me.  Curiously, there's not as much stimulation as last summer.  Go figure.
  Sure glad that I'm this far north now that the days are getting shorter.  Take care; stay well; keep laughing . . . all o' yous.
   BTW: for those who enjoyed reading Hillbilly Elegy, the powerful little 2010 film, Winter's Bone, is a free, On-Demand offering of Epix.  [Probably available elsewhere on cable.]  It was Jennifer Lawrence's breakout performance and a great watch if you're not too bothered by vivid portrayals of quasi-Appalachian [actually Ozarks] poverty and associated coping behaviors of poor families -- sorta Manchester By The Sea on steroids.  Check it out, Cookie.  I know you can take it.
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Mike Murphy on June 29, 2017 12:58 PM
The progressives have got everyone believing that conservatives are trying to kill them and give all their taxes to the rich.

??!. Medicaid is the old welfare program

??2. ACHA proposed will increase Medicaid apx 10% thru 2020 not cut it as Democrats crow.

??3. Dems & progressives want Medicaid to increase 20% per year and 100% if they have there way toward a single payer system!

4. What ever happened to personal responsibility to work and pay for social programs?

??Fred - is this positive or negative, esp the lie about cutting Medicaid?

Also do you think Obama's letting all the drug dealers out of prison contributed to the opiod crisis?

Pete how are you doing - well and chipper I hope?

??Keep the Faith
??Mike
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Pete Stephenson on June 29, 2017 1:21 PM
Pete here     Thanks for asking Mike.I' m doing fine.It is Ironic that the commercial on tv is the first signs of a stroke is a stroke itself.Unfortunately I had three before I got the hint that I was having a stroke.The lord was watching out for me for sure.I have no paralises other than my left thumb is numb and weak.I pray that all of you here on the blog with health issues are well.Faith,Hope and Love to all.
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Fredrick Lucas on June 29, 2017 4:27 PM
Mike, I want data. I don't speculate on the opioid crises.There was a drug bust recently in Cincinnati.The dealers were selling fentenal. If found guilty, they will spend time in a federal prison.In Huntington WV,several women who were addicted to opioids had babies who were addicted in the womb.That for me is sad that a woman would do that to her child.
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Ched on June 29, 2017 9:02 PM
I think Mike provided some  data.  It is no secret  that  the Dems want a single payer medical  system  ( AKA  socialized  medicine). Other  than the horiffic cost  and  the federal government  dictating  the quality and  scope of  care. Only the poor  and middleclass  will be  stuck with it. The wealthy will  purchase  expensive private care  and hospitals.
 And does  anyone  think that  the congress  will be  required  to  use  the  social  system???
 You get  and  deserve what  you  earn. Its  the  American way.  The last  4 letters in American  are  " I can"  !!!
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Carl on June 29, 2017 10:06 PM
You got me to thinkin', and I realized that the middle 4 letters in American are Eric.  Does that tell me anything?   -:)
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Fredrick Lucas on June 30, 2017 8:59 AM
MIke you asked me how many prisoners ObaMA released are selling opiates ? Look it up.
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Fredrick Lucas on June 30, 2017 9:39 AM
Ched I spent six weeks in France. I was able to spend time with a family there. France has a plan for those who want to use a plan other than the single payer plan. We are the only industrialized country that does not have a single payer plan for everyone. We have the Veterans health plan and Medicare.While not perfect, what plan is, the plans plus medicaid are better that what we had prior to the great depression.Do you admire Herbert Hoover? You admire millionaire  Franklin Graham.Doesn't Jesus want people to give money to help the poor? 

We can take care of the elderly in nursing homes thanks to Medicaid. 

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Fredrick Lucas on June 30, 2017 12:58 PM
Wednesday, the management of the University of Cincinnati Medical Center and Children's hospital urged employees to contact congressional representatives because a number of people that they treat received medicaid. They are concerned about the proposed cuts because so many of the patients receive medicaid.They could be cut from coverage. Mitch and the white boys didn't do a good job.

They don't want to return to the days when patients used the emergency ward for primary care and other care.The University Hospital is a trauma center.
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Carl on June 30, 2017 1:24 PM
Fredo, I was not acquainted with "Mitch & the White Boys," so I took your recurring advice and "looked it up."  Learned that they're a steely-eyed Cincinnati barbershop quartet of super-rich business professionals who cashed in as a counterweight to another of your groups, "The Fawning Gliberals," specialists in satirical musical mockery of middle America.  But, to my main point -- pardon my drift -- what do four unknown singers have to do with Medicaid anyway?  
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Mike Murphy on June 30, 2017 1:13 PM
Tom - Please brag on Fred soon, so that he won't bite himself!

Ched - What is it with progressives and math?

It looks like WVU is going to have a pretty good football team next yr.

Happy 4th
Mike



 
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Fredrick Lucas on June 30, 2017 4:08 PM
Carl, Mitch had white men on his committee to reform Obama care.No women, blacks or orientals were on the committee. President Trump becomes excited when he talks about womens blood. Perhaps Mitch wants to have a calm president.
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Cookie on June 30, 2017 6:40 PM
and Mika has traded in her classy scarves and design black sleeveless dresses for a polo shirt but then if you have joined a "rock band" you have to play the part
and
has someone gone off their meds????
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Ched on June 30, 2017 7:00 PM
It's true that many other countries have socialize medicine but I don't want the USA to be like others!!' America was built on individual hard work. And accomplishment. You just vsnnot convince a lobersl!!
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Ched on June 30, 2017 7:00 PM
It's true that many other countries have socialize medicine but I don't want the USA to be like others!!' America was built on individual hard work. And accomplishment. You just vsnnot convince a lobersl!!
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Mike Murphy on June 30, 2017 7:47 PM
??Fred - You and the Dems need to quit lieing about the ACHA cutting MEDICAID. They are spending more each year on MEDICAID till 2020 and just slowing the growth that the Dems and Obamacare wants!!! until we are completly broke. You didn't seem to learn much math while in France Du + Du = Cushon ?

Liberals are soo compasionate when they are spending other peoples money!

??Carol - WV Tech has completly moved to Beckley and We haven't heard from you in a long time - hope everthing is OK & great?

Ed - What year did the Maidenform close?

Keep the faith
Mike

 
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Fredrick Lucas on July 1, 2017 7:33 AM
Mike, the Republicans have not presented a bill for a vote. The CBO has said that millions would lose coverage if the proposed legislarion were to pass the House and Senate. Mitch and the Senate haven't brought up a bill for consideration.

Trump is facinated by Mika's blood. 
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Fredrick Lucas on July 1, 2017 8:55 AM
When I think of the people whom I have known in nursing homes with serious health problems, I think of the proposed cuts in medicaid funding. Should we consider continued funding of patients in nursing homes which is what I want. I don't want granny to suffer and die with no treatment.

Likewise children with pre existing conditions should have coverage. Many receive coverage through the CHIP plan.

Hard work is fine but when a person can no longer work because he has a health problem, that person needs help. Ched I think of the Cincinnati firefighter who has ALS and cannot work. I think of the lovely real estate agent who has multiple sclerosis and is bed fast in a nursing home. I think of a mentally disabled man who is in an assisted living center in Lawrenceburg IN. He hasn't had a job.He receives medicaid. What happens to these folks if government funding ceases? Ched I won't let granny be thrown under the bus.
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Mike Murphy on July 1, 2017 9:35 AM
Fred - Fact is that the proposed AHCA bill being considered increases funding for medicaid till 2020. It does slow the growth that Obama started.

??You Libs are fasinated by spending other peoples money without regard to math facts. Jesus does want to help the needy but what does the Tora say about Lieing?

MEDICAID IS NOT BEING CUT!!

??Keep the faith
??Mike
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Ched on July 1, 2017 10:57 AM
As Mike has  said,
  The GOP bill  does not "cut" Medicade  as  the libs  keep  saying it  simply reduces  the rate of increases.  Also, The majority (estimated 15 Million)  who will "lose"  coverage  are  those  who  will choose not  to buy insurance  absent  the  federal  government mandate.  Another point to remember is  that Obamacare is  failing; with hundreds of counties in the USA with only one insurer  and many with no insurer.  The balance have huge premiums  with deductables  so high  that  the insurance is almost worthless. In 2016 my wife had Obamacare  insurance premiums  were almost  $1000/ month  with a 50% copay  through Blue Cross Blue  Shield.  BCBS of Tn  dropped out of  the  Tennessee Market leaving her  with only one option for 2017  at almost $1500/ month. Fortunately my previous  employer intervened  and provided retiree medical benefits  to  family members. ata  a much much lower premium>   Republicans  do not  want  to push granny under  the bus  !!!   You just  cannot  convince  a liberal  though  they are braiwashed  with  the need  to be generous  with other peoples money !!!
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Fredrick Lucas on July 1, 2017 5:33 PM
There are six Republican Senators who refuse to support the Senate health bill.Three of the six are women. Mitch refuses to hold public hearings.  Women weren't a;llowed on his select panel.He's behaving like a right wing dictator. Obama did hold public hearings.
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Carl on July 1, 2017 5:41 PM
and how'd that work out Fred?  I recall that it produced a bill that the House had to pass in order to find out what was in it.  Maybe those public hearings didn't help much.  
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Ched on July 1, 2017 6:01 PM
  Carl  

 You  are  right on :
I think public hearings  just  spark unnecessary  confusion  and useless clutter  to a  complicated issue. I have  confidence that the GOP  wil  craft  something  that will at least  survive ( Ovbamacare  will not). They can start by making  insurance  competetive  across  state lines and initiating   tort  reform.
  The Obamacare  debacle  was  sold  to the public on blatent lies by Obummer. On multiple occasions he PROMISED  the public  that: " if  you like  your plan  you can keep  your plan", "if  you like  your  doctor  you can keep your  doctor", and  the  average  family  wil save $2500. What  a  crock >>>>>>!!!!
 This  crap legislation  was passed  without  any GOP  support.  The ONLY folks  who benefitted  were  the poor  which  got medicade.  The middle  class paid  through  the nose   !!! I know   !!!  Nothing but  a redistribution of  wealth. There  are a  few desirable parts of  the ACAb ut  dar  few!
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Ched on July 1, 2017 6:01 PM
  Carl  

 You  are  right on :
I think public hearings  just  spark unnecessary  confusion  and useless clutter  to a  complicated issue. I have  confidence that the GOP  wil  craft  something  that will at least  survive ( Ovbamacare  will not). They can start by making  insurance  competetive  across  state lines and initiating   tort  reform.
  The Obamacare  debacle  was  sold  to the public on blatent lies by Obummer. On multiple occasions he PROMISED  the public  that: " if  you like  your plan  you can keep  your plan", "if  you like  your  doctor  you can keep your  doctor", and  the  average  family  wil save $2500. What  a  crock >>>>>>!!!!
 This  crap legislation  was passed  without  any GOP  support.  The ONLY folks  who benefitted  were  the poor  which  got medicade.  The middle  class paid  through  the nose   !!! I know   !!!  Nothing but  a redistribution of  wealth. There  are a  few desirable parts of  the ACAb ut  dar  few!
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Fredrick Lucas on July 1, 2017 8:04 PM
you need to communicate with your Senators not me. Six Republicans are holding up any voting.Three of the six are women. I guess that white men want to preserve patriarchy and tell women what they can and cannot do with their bodies. 

What women do with their bodies is their business.
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Cookie on July 2, 2017 7:59 AM
Cain't watch TV
Cain't Listen to the radio
Cain't read the newspaper
Can't read the blog
Goin' fishing!
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Carl on July 2, 2017 8:53 AM
Fred, I'd never presume to speak for all [or most] white men, as some do, but you've hit my nail square on the head re patriarchal preservation and women's bodies.  I favor both.
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Mike Murphy on July 2, 2017 9:44 AM
??When Libs lose, they resort to calling Old Southern White Men and Women, Racist and Sexist and infer that they hate the poor and love the rich.

Winning is great!

Keep the Faith
Mike
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Ched on July 2, 2017 1:57 PM
Men are  the patriarchs of our  society. That has nothing whatsoever  to do  with the dictates regarding  women's bodies !!!!

Mike  you are  correct:  the Libs just have no other  recourse  except  to drag out   the old extremist  rhetoric  such as
 Repubs  wand  dirty air  and  dirty warer:  Repubs will  throw graany off  the  cliff (or under  the bus  as Fred cites). The  republican healthcare proposal will cause thousands  to  die !!! On  and  on.  They are losers  !
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Fredrick Lucas on July 2, 2017 6:40 PM
Ched and Mike, I asked you in a polite way to adress your concerns to your congressional representatives. You haven't done that. Instead you have attacked my perspectives and told whomever reads this blog that I'm a loser.

I don't pay any attention to those comments.They are judgemental which is never a good thing.
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Fredrick Lucas on July 2, 2017 7:26 PM
John Kasich Republican governor of Ohio does not support the present health care bill.He extended medicaid to 700,000 people. He is concerned that with funding cuts, a numberof these people will lose coverqge.He is also concerned that there won't be enough money to take care of the opiate epidemic.

 
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Ched on July 2, 2017 9:00 PM
Kohn Kasich in my opinion deserves little respect as he did not even attend the oP convention in his owN state
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Fredrick Lucas on July 3, 2017 10:24 AM
The following is a famous poem by Robert Burns.Should auld acquaintance be forgot and never brought to mind? Should auld acquaintance be forgot And auld lang syne.For auld lang syne my dear For auld lang syne, We'll tak a cup o kindness yet, For auld lang syne. word meaning. auldlang syne. Old long ago.dear a friend, cup o kindness a drink in which lovers pledge their love
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Edward Laufer on July 3, 2017 2:20 PM
Hi Mike, I asked my brother the question you asked about when the Maidenform plant closed in Princeton. We both think it was sometime in the very late 80's or early 90's Jeff Harvey wrote an article in the Princeton Times a few years ago and thought late 89'
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Edward Laufer on July 3, 2017 2:27 PM
Actually Jeff Harvey said late 80's HAPPY 4TH OF JULY TO EVERYONE!!
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Fredrick Lucas on July 3, 2017 5:38 PM
May each of you have a happy Independence Day 4 July 1776.
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Ched on July 4, 2017 9:46 AM
I Hope  everone has  a Happy  and Safe  4th of July. Nashville claims  to be having  the largest  fireworks  display in the nation  tonight !!!
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Carl on July 4, 2017 10:11 AM
Ditto to all on that Happy Independence Day wish. 
[Ched, it looks to me like you just posted your largest display ever on the blog.  Nicely done.]
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Ched on July 4, 2017 5:17 PM
Thanks  Carl
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Fredrick Lucas on July 4, 2017 9:57 PM
I went to a birthday this evening and heard about health care from a physician's perspective. The physician who is a rhumatologist at St. Elizabeth Hospital in Kentucky explained that he has to documrent everything he does with a patient and enter the data into the computer.

The problem occurs when his patient moves out of the area to another state.Since not all physicians and their groups use the same program, the patients records cannot br transferred to physicians in the new area. For example if the patient moves to Omaha Nebraska his computer records won't be available when he arrives in Nebraska.

The physicians need to have uniform programs.
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Mike Murphy on July 6, 2017 12:39 PM
??Ed - Thanks for the info. My first wife's mother worked at the plant. I think most all of the needle trades have moved to asia and china. When I first started at the WV dept of ed in 1966 MDTA had a sewing trailer that they would take to towns throughout WV to train sewing machine operators. The unions were critical of sponsoring this type of training since nearly all companies were non union. Products made were donated to welfare. I remember one program at Davis donating 42,000 pairs of childrens tennis shoes size 2-4 and White Sulphur Springs programs that donated mens shoes "Wright Arch Preserver" to the prisions.

??If I recall the Maiden Form at Princeton employed over 200 people?

When did your family leave Princeton?

Keep the Faith
Mike
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Tracy French on July 6, 2017 4:06 PM
Why don't we forget about politics for a while and join Chris Chtistie at the beach?
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Fredrick Lucas on July 7, 2017 8:04 PM
Tracy, Tom Dillon started a conversation about the high number of opiate deaths in Ohio. I noted that Kentucky West Virginia and Tennessee also had high death rates.

I added other perspectives to the health care situation. Each year in East Tennessee, physicians and dentists come for a weekend and treat people who have no health insurance. The professionals don't charge a fee.

I talked to another physician about the programs used by physicians. The reason that physicians have different programs,is that  a single progran could be hacked and sensitive health information could be stolen
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Mike Murphy on July 8, 2017 8:31 PM
??President Trump mentioned in his speech to the Polish people their trials and tribulations during the second world war. We watched a movie on pay for view called the Zoo Keepers Wife about that era. It is based on history and I highly recommend it.

Keep the Faith
Mike
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Edward Laufer on July 10, 2017 3:21 PM
Hi Mike, Referring to your posting on July 6th. Maidenform employed over 700 in Princeton on several of its peak years in the 1950's In fact in 1960 during the 1960 WV primary both JFK and Hubert Humphrey came thru the plant as did Eleanor Roosevelt later in the year
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Edward Laufer on July 10, 2017 3:26 PM
Further followup on the Maidenform plant. The year that the Princeton plant closed a special was on national TV on companies moving 'off shore' One of the groups interviewed were women that had been working at the Princeton Msidenform plant
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Edward Laufer on July 10, 2017 3:41 PM
Finally to your question as to when our family left Princeton.My mom passed away in1997,my dad in 2001 and my younger sister,Judy in 2004 all were living in Princeton at those times My brother Jerry moved away around 30 years ago and for the last 15 has lived in Lewisburg. Yours truly has been in New York City since the late 1960's
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Edward Laufer on July 10, 2017 3:51 PM
I believe that many of our classmates on the blog that do not live in WV including myself feel to some extend that we have not truly left WV and want to keep a connection to Princeton and to WV.I try to get down to Morgantown once a year to watch WVU and used to connect with Kerby Smith, Scotty Reid and Phill Selig at bowl games.
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Carl on July 10, 2017 4:11 PM
Before moving to the plant on S. Walker, Maidenform had 3 plants in Pctn.: one on Thorn St; one in the armory at the Mercer-Thorn St. bridge; I think the 3rd was on Mercer St.
  My mom worked at Maidenform for 34 years as a garment inspector.  A very active union member, she was, at times, the bane of Sam Laufer's [Edward's father] existence.  [Mine too, but that's a story for another time.]  In that role, she personally met JFK, HHH & Eleanor.  Those were among the proudest moments of her life.
  Losing her job at age 74, due to the plant closing, was among her gloomiest.
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Mike Murphy on July 10, 2017 4:20 PM
??Ed - Thanks for the info - I didn't realize that MF was so big. I do remember JFK coming thru. My Mother received a letter from him thanking her and the Carr Memorial Methodist Church for hosting a Meeting and Meal at the Glenwood 4H Camp. I can still remember my mother beaming talking abour meeting JFK. I often wounder what things would have been like had he lived?

??I do know that a lot of mouths were feed because of MF and a lot of the Employees kids like my first wife were able to go to college etc. because of MF, which I suspect was possible a lot because of your family. Thanks and it is good to know that you still have found memories of Princeton and WV.

Mountani Semper Liberi
Mike

 
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Edward Laufer on July 10, 2017 7:01 PM
Thanks Mike for your kind words about Maidenform and our family. My dad was an employee of the company never an owner, but as manager had to represent the owners Whereas he worked for Maidenform for 50 years,he retired I believe a few years before he had planned. He laughted when he heard the phrase from the Godfather. They made an offer I could not refuse.It was a good offer
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Edward Laufer on July 10, 2017 7:36 PM
In thinking about Princeton and WV after living in New York City I am playing a round of golf at the Priceton Elks course with my dad who loved the Princeton area and we look around and do not see another person on the course and my dad says you will not see such scenery on what looks like your own private course and seems so peaceful,
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Edward Laufer on July 10, 2017 7:41 PM
certainly not in the New York City area. And he was from the New York City area.He was right! Many,many happy memories from growing up and coming down to the Princeton area
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Carl on July 11, 2017 10:56 AM
[Postmark: Nostalgia Lane]
aah, growing up in the Pctn. area: "It was the best of times, it was the worst of times."  At least for some of us.  I remember coming to Mercer School to begin 3rd grade.  We had just moved to Princeton from Roanoke and, in true Dickensian fashion, I was scared of everything.  A 7-year-old stranger, I was welcomed into Edward Laufer's "friendship circle" where I've been allowed to stay for nearly 68 years.  Remarkable.  His and other friendships sustained me for decades until I finally gained my sea legs.  I've never failed to appreciate my supremely good fortune.  Those best of times/worst of times are now cherished times.  Thanks to all who contributed.
   P.S.  I always thought that Edward would have made a great rabbi.  I still do.
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Edward Laufer on July 12, 2017 10:46 AM
I have felt humbled by first what you said Mike,in your July 10th posting aboUT my family and now here comes Carl's words about myself in his July 11th posting of times past when I was doing things naturally.I immediately this morning had to see if my head could get throught my t shirt. It could. WHat Else Can I say? TRULY HUMBLED, INDEED!
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Carl on July 12, 2017 11:49 AM
Edward, it was the "doing things naturally" that made it all the more special.
   BTW: I solved that head-thru-the-tee-shirt issue a long time ago: I switched to tank/A-shirt styles; you know, the ones with straps across the shoulders and cut lower at the neckline.
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Mike Murphy on July 12, 2017 12:54 PM
Carl- AKA Wife beater Shirts?

??Ed - I have many memories good and bad about the Elks Country Club previously known as Mercer Country Club. ie getting up before dawn to be first out as a caddy, throwing new caddies in the creek for iniation, smoking,chewing, playing penny poker, Tree Tag,and carrying two bags for 4 rounds on wed sat and sunday for more money than 9-13 yr old could spend on 15c movies and 10c hot dogs & 5c pepsis, but usually stayed broke! great memories?

??I recall when TC Stafford (he was much older and had been in the asylym) and Delbert Wilson caught a ground hog near number 5 hole and TC had a string around its head and Delbert had a string around the rear. It gearked the rear lose and bit TC on the leg, of course we all houlled! I often wounder how we survived all the crazyness? Also Delbert was batting and TC pitching and delbert hit TC square on the nose with a line drive and lifted his feet of the ground. Lots of blood but you couldnt hert TC?

Keep the Faith
??Mike
   
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Carl on July 12, 2017 2:40 PM
sounds like TC stood for Tough Customer [or tuff cuss]
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Edward Laufer on July 12, 2017 5:42 PM
Mike,, that is so interesting what you said about being a caddy up at the golf course and verifies the rumors I heard over the years that to be a caddy at that course you had to be really very very tough there and they were not talking about being able to carry a golf bag there.Were Booby Meadows or Mike Herring caddys there?
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Edward Laufer on July 12, 2017 5:54 PM
I meant to spell out the name Bobby Meadows. I remember that some kids would go into that water Hazzard at night at the 3rd hole and would retrieve golf balls to sell at bargain prices
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Mike Murphy on July 12, 2017 7:56 PM
??Carl - I think TC was Technicaly Crazy. I am serious he was in an Isalam for a year or two and was 20 yrs older than the rest of us.

??Ed - Most of the Caddies were from Glenwood and Sandlick, also some from Princeton, green valley and gap of the ridge. Don't remember Bobby Meadows or Herring being there?

??I have waded the creek there many times in the day and 3 or 4 nights. The night wades were difficuly because Cat Thorton the owner would watch for you and ban you from cadding for a week or two. He wanted to buy the balls from us and resell them. He would give us 10c if was like new and a brand name and 5c if scuffed or off brand,He would sell the new Titelists etc for $1.00 each. and paint the old balls yellow for the driving range, We would hide some of the best ones and resell them for 50c. The best place to search was on the fourth hole for those that were hooked off two tee into the creek for really good balls and in tournaments Golfers used good brand balls, however on the third hole most would use an older ball because it was much easier to go in the drink. I saw on TV recently where in Florida a golf ball diver was bitten and rolled by a 10 ft alligator. We had to watch mainly for broken glass and leaches.

??I also trapped Musk Rats and collected scrap iron in addition to plowing Gardens and working for my brother boilermaking and on WV pipeline in Princeton and Lewisberg and Mullins. Anything to keep from hoeing corn or the garden. Also raised raspberries and had the champion ham for 4H in mercer county which brought $22.00 a pound, sadly it was only 12 pounds at 12 years old I was rich for a few weeks. Bought a 12 gauge JC Higgens Pump Shotgun, a gold spanish electric guitar, which I never learned to play and Ched I put it up with the strings tight and warped the neck and sold it for $10. 

Sorry got carried away - keep the faith
Mike  
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Edward Laufer on July 12, 2017 8:20 PM
Thanks Mike for the information on retrieving golf balls. I would always use an old golf ball on the 3rd tee because more often than I want to admit,in the drink or across the road. Not as bad on the 4th tee , but once in awhile would top the ball in the drink looking up to see how far I had hit it, opps!
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Cookie on July 12, 2017 10:02 PM
Comments about the Elks Golf Course are bitter sweet.  My dad worked there after he retired from the power company and did all the landscaping around the building when they built the new club house.  Last time I was there the shrubs looked good.  He loved that place and one of the last meals he ate was a hamburger and a beer from the cafe.    
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Fredrick Lucas on July 13, 2017 10:10 AM
Ruth Lively died last week.She was the wife of the late Cecil Lively, the mother of the late Ron Sleep Lively and the grandmother of Sarah Turner, Director of the Concord University Alumni Association.She was a member of the First Mrthodist Church.She was 93.The obituary is on the Seaver web site.
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Mike Murphy on July 13, 2017 1:33 PM
??+Cookie- First time I caddied there around 12yrs old the Club House was a wooden structure, later replaced by large brick which my two oldest brothers worked on during the construction. I have not seen the new Club House, will stop the next time I am out that way.
Other Memories:
??Caddies were allowed to play monday morning if we had helped cut the grass on the hill or other things, like gather range balls. I was in foursome with Don Lawrence (PHS60) and a group behind us hit into us by one of the Hager boys and Don was going to hit it back at them, and Hager was running toward us yelling don't hit the ball and Don did and hit him in the head and knocked him out with several stiches needed to close. Hager was OK but didn't hit into us again!

??Dr Markell was a small man and could not hit the ball very far but he would pick up his drive and clean the ball while walking about 20 yards toward the hole!

??Dr Gumm a professor at concord would always score as high as he could on qualifying for Bluegrass Tournament. He qualified in 5th flight (highest) but his first round in finals he scored a 28 which at that time was course record (is it still?) and on the second round choked and shot a 51 and came in around 10th.
??Of the Caddies David Hicks (phs60) and his older brother Charles were the best golfers. David scored a hole in one on #7 a four par hole for a double eagle.
I was a fair golfer at 14, but never had the patience to be good. I later prefered Racketball where you could beat the puds out of the ball unlike tennis.
??Ed. I don't Recall your Dad playing while I was caddying. Do remember, Thomchins, she was beautiful with looong legs and could whack the ball, Bebe Efron, Ray Mattee, Platnicks  & Clarks (I borrowed his clubs to play in caddie tournament one year (Kenneth Smith woods, Macgreagor irons and Tommy Armour putter) Gold standard then.

??Armond Fletcher was probably the best amatuer golfer and won bluegrass several times. Geno - he lived near where you are now living.

Pete - still improving?
??Keep the faith
Mike    
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Edward Laufer on July 13, 2017 2:18 PM
Hi Mike, I do not know if my dad ever used a caddie. I know when I started playingin the 1950's he would split, the clubs, each of us carrying those light canvas golf bags and then eventually graduating to those 2 wheel rollers for carting the clubs around
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Edward Laufer on July 13, 2017 2:34 PM
Mike, you are right about Armand Fletcher He was the best golfer up there for many many years You are thinking of Betty Tomchin who with her husband played many times there. They were really a very nice and'cool' couple and she was a 'looker'I believe she passed away fairly young from a heart ailment
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Edward Laufer on July 13, 2017 2:50 PM
Ok I am going to stop this last posting today about golf, but I am playing one of my first rounds ever and am with my dad and Harold Volkin of Rose Jewlers. On the first hole,on probably my 3rd or 4th shot, I do not see where it goes. My dad says Ed whatever you do do not look inthe hole whatever you do. It won't be there and Harold will never stop kidding you I didn't look and of course it was not there
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ched on July 14, 2017 10:17 AM
Interesting comments  about Golf  at  the  Elks course.  I was never  a  golfer in those  days  and preferred to attempt  tennis.  The old  clay courts behind  the  Elks Lodge in Princeton  were  somewhat  grownup with grass  and weeds.  I and  another ( cannot  recall  who)  cleaned it  all up  and played on it. I  suppose  that membership was  required but no one  seemed  to mind. Yeare  ago (before my time) my dad  constructed  a small 6 hole  golf  coures  on our property on the Old Blfd  Rd.  The  locations of  some of  the greens  are still evident  today.  He  also built  a  tennis  court on the property. Both  were  gone  after I came into this  world  !!!
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Carl on July 14, 2017 5:10 PM
Ched, I too have fond memories of the Elks Lodge clay courts.  Rick Swope & I attempted to learn the game and hone our "skills."  We were about the worst 2 tennis players ever seen . . . but well matched.  It didn't much matter that we weren't meant for tennis greatness -- or even tennis goodness.  It was a good part of growing up there.
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Fredrick Lucas on July 15, 2017 8:51 PM
When I was a teenager, members of Explorer Post 66 ernt to Washington DC to see a baseball game between the Senators and Red Sox. Bob Porterfield was a relief pitcher for the Red Sox and Ted Williams was in the twilight of his career.

The game was fun to see.I don't recall who won but it was fun.Whilr there we saw several exibits at the Smithsonian. We didn't get home until late so several of us called in to PHS and reported that we were too tired to come to class. Kirby Smith went to class because he didn't want to ruin his perfect attendance record. The rest of us had to explain to Bruce Fleshman why we didn't report to class.

That summer several of us got tickets to the Reds Cardinals game. Stan Musial was in the twilight of his career. A guy by the name of Pete Rose was beginning his major league career. We saw the game in the old Crosley Field. The weather was hot and humid.That night we went to Coney Island where I rode the roller coaster. Kirby Smith showed us around the city. I thought that the weather was so hot I didn't want to work in the city. When I was offered the job here, I said, I'm a Reds fan so I will come. I did and saw the Reds win the series three times. Mom introduced me to classical music by taking me to the concert series in Bluefield.So I've had tickets to the concert series in Cincinnati.

 
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Fredrick Lucas on July 15, 2017 9:32 PM
I made an error about Pete Rose.He began his major league career with the Reds in 1963. 
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Edward Laufer on July 15, 2017 11:57 PM
Fred that baseball trip was in 1957.What a great long weekend. If you remember I believe the troop stayed at a place called the Hayden House Hotel, went to a number of games, went into the dressing room and got autographed baseball's with Ted Williams signature on the 'sweet ' spot where he always signed and even going one evening to Glenn Echo Amusement Park
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Edward Laufer on July 16, 2017 12:13 AM
Fred, did you keep your baseball .Scotty Reid many years ago went to a sports memorabilia show with the ball and was told the signatures were authentic (not signed by third parties like bat boys) and had some offers by dealers.I think he kept the ball.Do you remember we wore our boy scout uniforms everywhere we went. Williams batted an astounding .388 in 57
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Edward Laufer on July 16, 2017 12:14 AM
Fred, did you keep your baseball .Scotty Reid many years ago went to a sports memorabilia show with the ball and was told the signatures were authentic (not signed by third parties like bat boys) and had some offers by dealers.I think he kept the ball.Do you remember we wore our boy scout uniforms everywhere we went. Williams batted an astounding .388 in 57
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Edward Laufer on July 16, 2017 12:20 AM
If you see the late hour of my last text,it will explain why I must have hit submit twice. Good night to one and all
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Mike Murphy on July 16, 2017 9:12 PM
??Recall going to Bluefield to watch Satchel Paige pitch for a minor league team with Bobby Hawks (RIP) and others. 
Also while attending a leadership Development conference (1967) at UM I and some guys from RI went to Baltimore to see Yankees and Orioles play with Mantle/Marris and Bough Powell. Later went to strip to Bell Stars place to watch show. Great days
The Boy Scouts Jamboree is next week at Fayettville w 40,000 attending - was on council representing Job Corps w/scouts and attend Jamboree at AP hill in Va near you Carl?

Keep the faith
??Mike
??Keep the faith
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Carl on July 16, 2017 10:43 PM
Yep Mike, A.P. Hill is an hour or less away.  Went to Army summer camp one year after my discharge, circa 1967 -- height of the Viet Nam War.  Was one of only about 3-4 "real army" soldiers among a bunch of Nat'l. Guard from the Huntington area.  Many of us didn't co-exist all that well, as was common during those times.  Probably a lot of cheap pride and immaturity on all our parts.
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Fredrick Lucas on July 17, 2017 10:14 AM
I spoke of Bob Porterfield who lived in Princeton for a time.After he completed his baseball career,he became a welder for Westinghouse Corp in 1966.He died from lymphoma in Charlotte NC. in 1980. He was 56 years old. 

This summer the National Boy Scout Jamboree will be held in West Virginia on land donated by Jum Justice


 
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Fredrick Lucas on July 19, 2017 9:01 AM
Tracy, this is for you. Yesterday, I went to the funeral of Janet Coakley at the First Presbyterian Church of Harrison Ohio. She was a retired English teacher from Harrison High School. Many of her students came to the reception and spoke of how caring she had been. She was there to help and encourage them. They did a good job when they went to college and took English 101. She and husband Ted encouraged their four daughters as they learned life skills. She gave them a faith. She worked with grandchildren as well.She had cancer for a year and a half. She died at age 68.

She attended church every week.The church is affiliated with the Presbyterian Church USA.
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geno on July 19, 2017 7:15 PM
I was thinking today, I know that's unusual but i was, been out of school 57 yrs. and still just 39.  It's good to be around at such a time as this as things have never been just as they are now even though they seem like they never was quite like this , but that's enough about the cornfield news, setting my sights on a higher plane I saw a great big  one flying over just today. On a closer look at home all my tomato plants withered away and died a tragic death, first time I ever lost all of em. Some kind of blight, never seen hit the roots stead of the upper plant, oh well stuff happens.  Filled out an application yesterday had 3 spaces on it for gender male, female and other, ol' dumb me, I didn't know they were making others now, he she it I guess.??
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Carl on July 20, 2017 10:49 AM
Geno, I'm saddened to hear that Mother Nature will deny you one of summer's greatest pleasures: real home-grown tomatoes.  Too bad that your problem involved such a severe attack, and on a precious food source; rather that it had been like a feared but fairly harmless tree infestation which has been noted as:
   Dogwood: its bark is much worse than its blight.
  
[Hey!!!  Where's all that groaning coming from?]
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Tracy French on July 20, 2017 11:36 AM
Fred:  Thanks for the info about your friend.  I have many faithful members at my church in Mullens who never miss a Sunday.  My oldest member is Lewis D'Antoni at 103 but year before last his daughter Kathy took him to Barboursville to live with her.  He never missed a Sunday except when his son coached the Lakers and he would spend the winter in Phoenix.

Geno:  Could I borrow those rose colored glasses of yours?

Yesterday was mine and Carol's 50th Anniversary.  We spent the evening quietly at home and enjoyed dinner from Captain D's.  A big change from past anniversaries but I'm thankful we were able to celebrate it.

After being in stage 4 renal failure for the past 13 years my doctor informed me yesterday that I will have to start dialysis soon.  Also yesterday I took the first of three Hepatitis B Vaccine shots that I will have to have for the dialysis.  The second shot will be given August 21st and following that I will have a port put in my arm for emergency purposes.  The plan is to have a port put in my stomach and do dialysis at home 7 days a week and most likely will start the last week of August.

Dialysis also means that I will have to give up my church at Mullens.  It is not an easy decision and I am struggling trying to figure out how to tell them.  There have been some obvious mental error in some of the services lately and I suppose the handwriting is on the wall and may not come as a surprise to them.

I appreciate your prayers and concerns.

There has been a lot of blogging about the Maiden Form and Bob Porterfield lately.  I had one sister and 2 sisters-in-law who worked at the Maiden Form and all talk about it  is nothing but good and they all have fond memories.  I attended a baseball clinic at Knob School when I played Little League Baseball.  The clinic was give by Bob Porterfield and "Moon" Mullins


 
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Mike Murphy on July 20, 2017 12:27 PM

??Tracy- So sorry to hear about your need for dialisis and your retirement from your church. You have been a great inspiration to many and I hope you will continue to Minister to me and other classmates through the blog? I am not sure it will do any good in my case but who knows? 

??Sounds as if it is time to concentrate on keeping you and your family well and happy - you certainly deserve it!

Keep well and happy
??God Bless
Mike
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Carl on July 20, 2017 12:40 PM
Tracy my friend, I'm saddened by your health news.  I've known for years what a strong, grounded, principled, sensitive, insightful and good-humored person you are.  I trust that these and your many other fine qualities will make your treatment regimen more manageable.  You are in my thoughts and have my best wishes.  You're a true mainstay of PHS60.  Thanks.
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Pete Stephenson on July 20, 2017 12:48 PM
  1. Tracy,seems as though you and I have our health problems at the same time.After having my carotid artery cleaned out last month i went back to Charleston for my follow up.My Dr.gave me an ultra sound and cat scan on my artery.He saw a shadow in the upper part of my artery behind my jaw bone so I had day before yesterday an carotid arterigram (?) What he found was a shadow from a filling in a tooth.All thankfully is goin good for me right now.No blockage was found this time.I pray that your situation inproves.i know how much you love your church there in Mullins. sorry to hear that you have to leave the church.One little note of my memories of Bob Porterfild.When he bacame a member of the Washington Senators I moved him from Princeton to Washington D.C.I might add that he was one classy guy from my point of view.Tracy I have you in my prayer and hope you start feeling better soon.If you need me brother at anytime or anywhere you know I'm here for you.Faith,Hope,and love to all.
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Ched on July 20, 2017 2:07 PM
Tracy,
 I am so  sorry  to learn of  your pending need  for  dialisis. You and  your  family have  endured  a lot of  chakllanges over  the  years but  your  resiliance  and perserverance has been an inspiration  to us  all.  That in and of itself is  quite  a legacy. I hope  that God  will bless  you  with many more  years.
 I know  your formal ministry at  your  church means  al lot but please continue  to minister  to all of us.  You  are  a blessing  to all !
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geno on July 20, 2017 4:44 PM
 Tracy I was surprised to read your blog of your illness, the name of JESUS is above every name and that includes renal disease. right now in all the faith that I can muster up LORD JESUS I AM ASKING THAT YOU TOUCH TRACY'S BODY AND HEAL HIM BRING HIS HEALTH BACK AND REBUKE THIS ILLNESS IN JESUS NAME AMEN AND AMEN!!!!!!!! ??
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Tom Dillon on July 20, 2017 5:26 PM
??Frenchman, please know that prayers will be offered in your name from Indiana. We don't understand why bad things happen to good people, but remember from scripture that the Lord's thoughts and ways are higher than ours and that He has a plan that is being carried out.
??Many of our classmates have had health issues, while others of us have been relatively OK. Often we keep our feelings "bottled up" and don't share.
??My wife, Kay, asked about the possibility of You truely sharing via the blog your experiences, emotions, etc., over the next several weeks, months, and years. Your approach to the treatments, change in job status, and other life changes bolsterd by your faith could prove beneficial to all the rest of us -- as we age, all of us are going to face more and more issues.
Love you, Man. 
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Tom Dillon on July 20, 2017 5:28 PM
Don't know what all the question marks (?) are all about.
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Edward Laufer on July 20, 2017 9:06 PM
I am certain that for many of us that read the blog that are not super active on it when we see what has happened to you,Pete and what now has happened to you Tracy that we feel for you even if it is not said in so many words.
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Cookie on July 20, 2017 10:00 PM
Tracy
I am sorry to get this news and pray that God watches over you and your family as you begin this journey.  Your e-mails and correspondence meant so very much to me and I receive the literature monthly.  Such a good person you truly are!!!!  My very best.
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Fredrick Lucas on July 21, 2017 8:27 AM
Tracy, I would like to offer my best wishes to you as you face various health issues. I realize that you would like to be actively involved in life.Sometims we have to stop, rest and give our bodies a chance to relax.You've had many opportunities to be involved and have had many blessings.Sit back in your rocking chair and give thanks for many blessings . You can even be a mentor to the younger generation.

Tom I think that Kay has a good idea.We can always share what we have done that could be helpful to others.
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Becky Novarro on July 21, 2017 9:14 AM
Classmates it seems we are facing many challenges in our final phase of life. With the grace of God we will at least survive long enough to do the things on our Bucket List. I call us the parts department and now Tracy & Pete have joined us. May we all remember our wonderful classmates and friends in our prayers.
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Mike Murphy on July 21, 2017 12:17 PM
??Tracy - You mentioned Lewis D Antonio. A good friend of mine Fred Aldridge past last week and his obit mentioned Lewis as a inspiration for him entering Teaching and coaching. He coached the GW High School basketball team to the 1971 AAA championship and was principal at Ripley and Ravenswood High. He was 78 and was from Mullins and often mentioned Lewis as an inspiration like you are to us.

??I recalled meeting OJ in the lobby of the Marriott in Atlanta and my friend Ken Whittington getting his autograph for his son. The next day we watched Allanta play Buffalo with Jim Braxton playing and blocking for OJ as well as being a great fullback. I also saw Jim and OJ play at Pittsburg. Jim was not overly found of Oj because of the way he treated his kids. Shame that he is walking free!

??The best to you and family -get well soon
??God Bless
??Mike
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Tracy French on July 21, 2017 4:52 PM
Dear Classmates:

Your remarks are humbling to say the least.  They put a new spin on Mac Davis' old song "It's hard to be Humble".  Thank you from the bottom of my heart.

I have decided that I will retire at the end of August.  It's hard to say right now when my last day will be depending on the surgery to have the ports installed.  I have had a good run at being employed starting with delivering "The Baltimore American" when I was in the 3rd grade.  Other than taking 1 year off work to attend Concord College the longest stretch of unemployment I have had is a 3 day period when I was discharged from the Army on a Tuesday and was hired by the Celanese on Friday.  I am thankful for the work ethic that is a part of our generation.

Mike and Fred:  I meant to say Lewis D'Antoni wintered in Phoenix when his son coached the Suns not the Lakers.  Lewis did not like Los Angeles or New York and did not spend as much time in those cities when Mike coached the Lakers and Nicks.

Becky:  About my bucket list.  Hank Williams Sr. had a song out about my bucket list and our good friend Carl picked up on it and used to sing it quite frequently when we were at Knob School.  It's named "My Bucket Has a Hole in it" and while my bucket has a hole in it, rest assured that as King David said, "my cup runneth over".

There have been many times in life when I have thought about writing about my life experiences and I have on occassion put many of my thoughts on paper but have have never gotten around to doing it.  After reading what Tom wrote and Kay's request and Fred's encouragement I think it would be possible and good if we combined our efforts and each of us write a chapter or a short story about our experiences in life.  We could call it something like "Reflections From Princeton High School Class of 1960".  Is anyone game?

Again thank you.  You will never know how much your words are appreciated.


 
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Cookie on July 21, 2017 9:00 PM
I think "Reflections" might be a grand idea.  Appreciated your comments about "Work Ethics."  I can relate to that.
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Carl on July 22, 2017 11:51 AM
Tracy, Cookie, I like the sound of a "Reflections" compilation too.  That's always been my favorite part of our blog so I know that there are many stories to tell from our youth and young adulthood, and of lessons learned/values instilled in Pctn. that served us well later. 
I'd be happy to lend a hand with any such effort. 
What say others? 
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Carl on July 23, 2017 10:28 AM
HELP WANTED:
My dear classmates.  A song came to mind that I haven't thought of in a coon's age, a blue moon, a long forgotten night in June.
It's the PHS Fight Song.  Here's what I think I remember; please correct me if I'm wrong:

Hoorah for Tigers.  Hoorah for Tigers.
Someone in the crowd is yellin’ “hoorah for Tigers.”
One, two, three four.
Who you gonna yell for?
Tigers!  That’s us.

[Fred, I'm sure you'll know this.  Becky, et. all too.]
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Fredrick Lucas on July 23, 2017 10:54 AM
This concerns a man with a health issue. It was reported in Sports Illustrated January 17, 2017. Zach Lawrence  an Ohio resident was in a traffic accident in the Republic of Georgia. He was flown back to Columbus Ohio where he was admitted to the Ohio State Rehabilitation Hospital. He was in a coma.He was asked a series  of questions but he did not respond.Finally they asked him if he liked Michigan football.He said No. 

Now he opens his eyes and smiles. He can stand on the treadmill.Go Bucks
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Carl on July 23, 2017 11:00 AM
Fredo, that's a mighty impressive interview technique. 
I doubt that Andy Sipowicz could have done any better.
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Mike Murphy on July 23, 2017 12:51 PM
??President Trump is scheduled to visit Boy Scout Jamboree at Fayetteville Tomorrow. Was never in scouts - How many of you guys and gals were?

Keep the Faith
Mike  
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Carl on July 23, 2017 3:28 PM
Murph, Pctn. had 2 Boy Scout troops.  The longer-standing one was Calvin Roland's [PHS60's Eberline "Bean" Roland's father].  Edward Laufer & Fred Lucas should be able to identify most of the PHS60 members in it.  I joined a smaller, "upstart" troop headed by Clarence Hylton.  David Hurt was also in it.  I forget if there were other PHS60'ers.
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Tracy French on July 23, 2017 3:12 PM
Carl:  I think maybe you may have hit on a memory cell hidden deep in the crevices of my brain and I hear something saying...

Fight Tigers Fight for Princeton
Fight Tigers Fight...

Can you push another button?
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Carl on July 23, 2017 3:23 PM
Tracy, thanks for either clarifying or adding to my confusion.  I think you're right that your lyrics are to the Princeton High "Fight Song."  Mine is from something or somewhere else.  I think the Fight Song had a rhyme of [dah, dah, dah dah] "true and tried.
"We are always on [or by] your side."
   Come on women -- Cookie, Darla, Barb, Becky, Pat, . . .  You're the ones who actually sang at games & in assembly, so you must know the words.  Help out a couple of tired old veterans [and music & poetry lovers].
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Tracy French on July 23, 2017 3:38 PM
Today as I stepped in the pulpit a few minutes early (as I do every Sunday) to turn to the page in the Pulpit Bible that will be the basis of my sermon, I noticed the page it was already open to ended with Matthew Chapter 11 Verse 27.  The basis of my sermon today was Matthew 11: 28-30 so all that was necessary was for me to turn the page.  As I did that I realized that it was God speaking to me, confirming that it is time to "turn the page" on my ministry at Mullens, a decision I made this past Wednesday.  When I informed the concgregation it turned what I had anticipated a sad occassion into one of joy.

What can I say?  God is good.  Indeed, God ...is ...good!
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Carl on July 23, 2017 4:09 PM
Beautiful!
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Tom Dillon on July 23, 2017 5:55 PM
??What a way to say goodby, Tracy. Congrats.
??Murph, both my brother Jim and I were scouts and obtained the rank of Eagle. Our scoutmaster was a gentleman who worked at Snead's department store -- I think our troop # was 66. Bob Snead and his older brother, Lawrence were very much a part of our activities. Lawrence was actually a professional scout who worked for the Boy Scouts of America after his graduation from college. We hiked and camped in the New River Gorge area near Pipestem before there was any infringement of civilization and took 2 trips to the Smokies to hike the Appalachian Trial. Don Brohard and Johnny Schoolcraft were also members of our troop. I remember one summer serving as a counselor at the boy scout camp and Yearout being there.

 
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Fredrick Lucas on July 23, 2017 6:08 PM
Mike, Ed Laufer, Phillip Selig, Bean Roland, Andy Fleshman, Tim Reed, Fred, Ron Skeens were a few of the fellows in Troop 66.We usually went camping at Camp Roland in Bland County.
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Tracy French on July 23, 2017 8:14 PM
I was also a member of Troop 66 as was Stan Hill and Jeff Shumaker. a couple of members I remember who haven't been mentioned yet.
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Tom Dillon on July 24, 2017 8:35 AM
Must have gotten troop number wrong -- my brother and I were not in the same group as Fred, Roland, et.al. They wore full dress uniforms. We couldn't even afford the badges -- had to cut a piece of skin off our foot to display when we attained rank of Tenderfoot and a selfie of our riding on a bus when we attained 2nd class, and so forth.  I think JK George and perhaps Joe Askew dabbled in scouting at one time or another. 
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Carl on July 24, 2017 8:57 AM
sounds like there were 3 troops in Pctn.  I never knew that.  I think mine was Troop 55.  not certain.
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Edward Laufer on July 24, 2017 11:03 AM
Tom, I believe that the troop the Sneads were involved with was Troop # 1. Numbers might have changed over the years as I believe Troop 6 became Troop 66. For a number of years I remember Sneads DepartmentStore was an official outlet for Boy Scout supplies although often kids were also4 going down to the Army and Navy Store to buy supplies Tracyl
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Edward Laufer on July 24, 2017 11:13 AM
Tracy what I was going to say before I ran out of space, do you remember the patrol meetings we had at your home and does anyone remember that Boy Scout Publication called I believe Boys Life? My brother and I went down a number of years ago to Camp Roland a number of years ago, while closed still had a big colorful sign The camp always seemed a long way from Princeton when I was there as a scout.Adventure!!
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Carl on July 24, 2017 11:08 AM
Tom, it sounds like your troop was a bunch of tough customers, displaying your tenderfoot status that way.  Oh well, that was no skin off my . . .
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Tom Dillon on July 24, 2017 12:33 PM
??Remember looking for sky hooks and going snipe hunting? Capture the flag was one of my favorites at both scout and church camps. Was Glen Allen a member of any troop? Probably not, because he stole something of immense value to me  -- not worthy of a true scout.
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Edward Laufer on July 24, 2017 1:47 PM
Talking about the Boy Scouts, I just saw on tv that President Trump is flying to West Virginia to address the Boy Scouts at the National Jamboree there and my brother Jerry said on Friday Sec. Tillerson who was an Eagle Scout was there also
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Ched on July 24, 2017 3:54 PM
I was in explorer troop 66 . Calvin Roland was the Scoutmaster. I think Boy Scout troop 6 became Explorer troop 66. I also became an Eagle and spent several weeks at camp Roland in Bland co. My dad was on the scout executive board and was awarded  the Silver Beaver which is the highest award for voluntary service. I still have all my medals and merit badges..
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Mike Murphy on July 24, 2017 5:19 PM
??I have heard that it is difficult to become an Eagle Scout. What do you have to do?

??I was in 4H and must thank Emma Mallory, Eddies Mother PHS59 for all of her great voulenteer work. I suspect that Scouts were also highly dependant on folks like your Dad Ched?

Keep the faith
Mike
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Cookie on July 24, 2017 7:47 PM
4-H here.  Paul Winfrey was our leader.  Group included Kay Hendricks, Ronnie Hendricks, Chuck Lohr, Dobber McCabe, Mike McCabe,  and Pat McCabe.  I have some interesting stories to tell about that.  We attended summer camp each year at Glenwood and one year went to State at Jackson's Mill.  
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Carl on July 25, 2017 10:17 AM
Happy Birthday to Ginger Goings Clower,
??the only PHS60 July?? birthday that I have in my records.
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Fredrick Lucas on July 25, 2017 12:07 PM
When we were in Scouting, theAppalachian Council in Bluefield was responsible for developing scouting in the following counties:Mercer, Monroe, Summers, Raleigh, McDowell and Wyoming in West Virginia and Giles, Bland and Tazwell Counties in Virginia.Funding came from the United Way in the various areas . Where there were no United
Ways,there were independent fund drives and sustaining memberships.

In the 1980's the council merged with the Buckskin Council in Charleston.It could no longer be financially viable. In 2012, the council in Huntington merged with the Buckskin Council. 
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Tracy French on July 25, 2017 3:37 PM
Hey Ed: 

I do remember those scout meetings.  It was a good time in life.  For the past 2 days I have been looking for a picture that I have that was made at Bunky Brooks house on 5th Street when his mom was the Cub Scout leader.  I can't remember who all is in the picture but when I find it I will open it up for access.

Also for the past 2 days I have been writing about "Reflections from PHS Class of 1960".  I hope more of you will join on.  This can be a wonderful project and the more who participate, the better it will be.

Talking about PHS 60, 3 members of the class just left my house after coming for a visit today.  Pete Stephenson, Tommy Goings and Joe Holdren.  How blessed we are to have been such a close knit class.

Seeing Tommy Goings reminded me of one of the great lessons I have learned in life that I will be writing about.  I will give you a sneak peak of what I am writing ... and you would do well to heed my advice. Here it is:

I don't care how big you are or how fast you are, NEVER start a fight with Tommy Goings.
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Darla on July 26, 2017 10:18 AM
Tracy,

Prayers!!!!!


 
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ched on July 26, 2017 3:55 PM
I also was in the Cub Scout Den  which met  a Bunky Brooks hose. I cannot  recall  the name of his mother  who led our pack. Bunky ened up playing football for Bluefield  and  went to WVU on a FB  scholoship I believe.  I also recall that he has passed away some time back.
Cookie, I also was in  the 4H Club for a  while but never won any ribbons at  the camp at  Glenwood Park.

Continued  prayers  for Tracy; our good  friend and  spiritual leader
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Cookie on July 28, 2017 4:38 PM
Ched
Can you remember  other neighborhood kids who were in the club?  What about Dr. Markall's son and others.  I think the Barberry boys were in it.  
Don't feel bad I don't recall winning ribbons either but we had so much fun.
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Fredrick Lucas on July 28, 2017 7:07 PM
There is an opportunity for classmates to socialize.The Athens Concord Town Social will be held on the lawn at Concord Sunday August 13 from 1pm to 4pm.Members of our class who cannot come for the October event might want to come to Athens in August.

 
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Fredrick Lucas on July 28, 2017 7:21 PM
On October 21st the North Carolina Tar Heels will play Virginia Tech  in Blacksburg. The game starts at 1145. I think that we should reschedule
our PHS get together and go to Blacksburg to see the game.

Tracy didn't want me to discuss politics but how about those Republicans defeating their health care legislation. In a parlimentary system, a party that does what the Republicans did would usually call for a general election.
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Carl on July 30, 2017 1:04 AM
??Fred, regarding your citing that "In a parlimentary system, a party that does what the Republicans did would usually call for a general election," SO WHAT?  WHAT ON EARTH DOES THAT HAVE TO DO WITH AMERICAN DEMOCRACY, the most successful government of its kind in human history, and a type of government formed through fundamental, principled, ingenious disagreement with the governace of the country with today's most well known parliamentary system which remains a monarchy? 
??   Would the "usual" parliamentary call for a general election NOT have applied to the Republican takeover of House & Senate in 1995 [Clinton presidency] and 2015 [Obama presidency]?  (I don't recall you raising this issue then.)
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Tracy French on July 28, 2017 9:24 PM
Fred: 

I do not recall asking you not to discuss politics on the blog.  Sometimes my humorous side is taken too seriously and people will mis-interpret what I mean.  If I have misled you to this conclusion then I apologize, I did not intend to.

I think politics and religion are good subjects to discuss on the blog.  Debate has long been a tool of democracy to educate and inform and I welcome this on the blog as long as we do not offend to the point of alienation.

My personal opinion on the health care vote is that John McCain took advantage of the golden opportunity to pay Donald Trump back for the remarks Trump made about his military service.

John McCain is an American hero but my opinion of him today is way below norm because he has he caved in to an age old perversion called revenge or retaliation.  Shame on John McCain.  He has crossed the barrier that seperates men from boys.

My doctor's nurse was on vacation this week so I am in limbo about the surgery for the fistula and PD Cather.

I have made a lot of progress writing on "Reflections".  Please join me in this endeavor it is enjoyable to say the least.
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Ched on July 28, 2017 10:58 PM
cookie,
I don't recall too many 4H s. I recall you, Kay Hendricks, "Dobber" McCabe and I think Ronnie Hendricks. My "recaller" isn't working too good!!!
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Fredrick Lucas on July 30, 2017 11:55 AM
Tracy and Carl, I simply made the observation that the Republicans defeated their healthcare bill. I was surprised that the GOP could not pass the legislation.

In a parlimentary system, the party in power that fails to pass significant legislation will sometimes call for a vote of confidence from the electorate.

Boy Scout officials wrote a letter of apology to the parents who were outraged by Trump's political speech. President Obama adressed the group in a teleconference in 2011. 



 
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Mike Murphy on July 30, 2017 3:22 PM
Fred - 3 republicans and all of the democrats defeated the health care bill. 

??The Dems still want everyone to have MEDICAID (welfare) and want you and I to pay for it with higher taxes and higher insurance premiums. the fight is not over Obuma care but over medicaid which Ohio and WV have overextended their capabilitie to sustain. Also the Dems lie that MEDICAID will be decreased is like you can keep your health plan and your doctor! Also we must have Planned Parenthood and maternity and sex change operations. I don't care if someone wants to change sex, I just don't want to pay for it. 

Keep the Faith
Mike
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Fredrick Lucas on July 30, 2017 6:31 PM
MIIke What the Republicans do or fail to do is not my concern. The fact that the Senate cannot get a majority to do anything with health  care simply points out that the various factions cannot unite on this issue. Donald and his tweets have been a distraction. Should he have scolded Jeff Sessions in public? He is popular  with Republican senator. Frd
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Mike Murphy on July 30, 2017 8:50 PM
Fred - If it is not your concern why do you keep whining about it?

??Tracy - best of luck with your treatments.  The fistula which I also had is a pain in the rear- ha - but everything is ok now.  Will you possibly be able to decrease or go off dialysis? 

Keep the faith
Mike




 
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Fredrick Lucas on July 30, 2017 8:59 PM
There has been sigificant flooding in the northern panhandle of West Virginia.The area might need donations.
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Fredrick Lucas on July 30, 2017 8:59 PM
There has been sigificant flooding in the northern panhandle of West Virginia.The area might need donations.
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Fredrick Lucas on July 30, 2017 9:11 PM
Tom Dillon mentioned Bob Snead. He died the middle of July. His obituary is on the Seaver Web site.
 
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Fredrick Lucas on July 31, 2017 7:39 AM
Recently, I have read about the CTE brain trauma experienced by boxers, soccer players, football playerts , ice hockey players . One of the problems with football players  is that they have numerous hits in practice which can lead to brain damage. 

I remain a baseball fan because the sport is much safer than football. Did the   football players from our class experience head trauma.?

Tony Dorset, the running back for the Dallas Cowboys has serious problems with anger management. His daughter is afraid of him.I hope that football players from our class will discuss head trauma.




 
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Fredrick Lucas on July 31, 2017 8:07 AM
From time to time, I have discussed the snake handlers  and their church in Julo.  Kentucky and Tenessee have made these churches illegal. Why? Let me set up a senario.Let us say that a husband and wife with their two children walk into one of these churches. Both husband and wife are bitten refuse treatment and die.Who  would pay for the care of these children? The state does not want that responsibility Tracy. That is why the practice is illegal in Tenessee and Kentucky.
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Carl on July 31, 2017 10:12 AM
??Fred, on behalf of all us religious zealot snake handlers, may I respectfully remind you that the US Constitution prohibits 1) the federal government from making any law prohibiting the free exercise of religion and 2) state governments from making any law that contravenes federal law.  
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Fredrick Lucas on July 31, 2017 11:32 AM
Carl,,

The Supreme Court has not overturned the laws of Kentucky and Tennessee  because adults who refuse treatment can die leaving orphan.s
  

There are youtube videos of state officials in Kentucky taking snakes from a church .Several years ago Cash Amburgy who lived in Cincinnati was told to get out of Tennessee and never return. His wife died from a snake bite in the church. The state doesn't  hinder worship they remove snakes 
 
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Carl on July 31, 2017 11:36 AM
??Fredo, do you know how they deal with this problem in countries with parliamentary systems?
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Fredrick Lucas on July 31, 2017 12:01 PM
Carl,the law codes for Kentucky  and Tennessee are available online.The Supreme Court cases are also available. In my work with Ohio, I had to k ow the Ohio Revised Code as it related to unemployment compensation and EEOC.

 
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Carl on July 31, 2017 12:36 PM
   Fred, did you hear about the Ohio woman whose pet boa constrictor wrapped itself around her and bit her repeatedly on the nose.  She was able to call 911 and got assistance, which the snake failed to survive.  She's OK.
   In was in the weekend newspaper.  I don't think that it had any religious implications [except perhaps that the woman may have sworn off of pet snakes.]
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Cookie on July 31, 2017 4:45 PM
Carl
Why that Ohio snake story ain't nothing.  Last week on A & E's national live police show our county sheriff chased a rabid fox through the woods--in the dark.  We are one of six juristictions that have followed for weeks.  And a few weeks before, on the same show, our counties's finest (Calvert County that would be) stopped two middle aged women over at the beach.  Sheriff had somewhat of a problem and kept repeating, "no you didn't, no you didn't" since in addition to multiple charges for drugs, outstanding warrants, etc. there was a strange buzz coming from the pocket compartment of the door.  Talk of the county.  They live among us.  I'll just leave that there.

????You still want me to write?

 
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Tracy French on August 1, 2017 9:12 AM
Cookie:  Right on sister, right on.   I mean write on sister, write on.  Of couse we want you to write. You have us in suspense.

Mike:  Too early for me to know yet.  Last week my doctor's nurse was on vacation and the doctor could not get the referral in.  This week the doctor is on vacation and I have to wait for her to push the button.  They gave me an appointment to come in next Monday.  Meanwhile ... i'm still doing the limbo.

Fred:  The whole snake-handling thing is strange to me and you know my opinion of it but to stop the practice in order prevent children from possibly becoming orphans seems to be a little out of the box.
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Fredrick Lucas on August 2, 2017 6:31 PM
Tracy, the Tennessee law against handling snakes in worship services went into effect in 1947. The Supreme Court has upheld the law. A youtube.. video shows a conservation worker removing snakes from the church. The law considers snake handling to be dangerous.People have been bitten, refused treatment and died.

The state of Tennessee doesn't want to regulate the worship service. They remove the snakes from the church and put them back into the wilderness.
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Fredrick Lucas on August 2, 2017 6:44 PM
I saw a cute video. A mother and todler boarded a plane. The little boy who was about four years old and each passenger touched each other with their fist.

Yesterday, I returned to the music of my childhood. I listened to the music of the Seekers, Peter Paul amd Mary.May she rest in peace. Finally, I enjoyed the Seekers, Glen Miller and Perry Como. Have a good week.
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Tracy French on August 2, 2017 10:09 PM
Fred:

I am often at odds with some of the laws in this country.  Last year on Stafford Drive in Princeton at a BP Gas Station/convenience store
a young lady who worked there was shot and killed. Should there be a law to prevent people from working in convenience stores since they are often targets of robbery?  Do you think they should receive extra compensation for working in a dangerous occupation?


 
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Cookie on August 3, 2017 12:22 AM
Tracy: You want me to "right"? Here goes!! Well, I read that if you are trying to de-clutter you should pick up something, hold it for 30 seconds. If it gives you no joy you should throw it way. Today I throw away my dust buster, mixer, all the spices, 12 cookbooks, a box of christmas ornaments made out of prescription pill bottles and paper clips, diet pills, alarm clock, box of Miracle Grow, one copy of "How to be Happy in Retirement", pair of spanks, and a bra. The same article said that a woman should only be seen in print three times in her life, when she is born, when she weds and when she crocks.
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Carl on August 3, 2017 12:55 PM
Cookie Darlin', you are a living refutation that a woman should be seen in print on only three occasions.  As Tracy said, "write on, write on."
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Tracy French on August 3, 2017 8:41 AM
Cookie:

I thought the 30 second rule only applied to food dropped on the floor by children.


 
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geno on August 3, 2017 2:36 PM
Cookie  I am gonna tell what,s her name on you you have thrown away the best part of your life, Christmas decorations, of all things, my gran pa told me never throw any thing but bad habits away, he said the very thing you throw away is what you will need the day after you throw it away, I believe him. I love your rightin though....right on and on again, oh that should be agin, now I have confused myself that's touchin sumpin, again is over, ain't it??????????
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Fredrick Lucas on August 4, 2017 7:25 AM
Each day spend quiet time and listen to our inner guidance.Whend we listen we will receive messages that are pleasing.Source is Anita Amoorjan who had an NDE and whose cancer went inro total remission.She has several youtube videos.
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Mike Murphy on August 4, 2017 9:20 AM
President Trump hit it out of the park last eve in Huntington.

??Fred - you can go back to trashing Jim Justice since he is now a Republican. 

Keep the Faith
Mike
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Fredrick Lucas on August 4, 2017 10:42 AM
Mike, you do like to prortray me in a negative light don't you.Poor Tracy thinks that Tennessee made a bad mistake when they went to the snake handlers church and conficated the snakes. Snakes are not used in worhip services in synagogues mosques and most churches. Snakes are best as residents in the wilderness.Tracy Tennessee enacted the right law by banning the practice.. Only in Appalachia.
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Cookie on August 4, 2017 11:01 AM
"Only in Appalachia?"   Careful Fredo!  There you go again!  

As I used to tell my kids, "Don't make me come out there."
 
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Ched on August 4, 2017 11:44 AM
I thought Trump's  speech in Huntington was  excellent last  evening. Jim Justice's  "coversion"  woas cool  also 2/3s of  the  governors  are now  R.
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Carl on August 4, 2017 12:22 PM
??Fred, as the TV cameras scanned the crowd at the President's address in Huntington, I kept looking for you.  Knowing that it's less than 3 hours from Cincinnati, I thought you might be there.  In fact, I wondered if you & Mike had met for dinner and the speeches.
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Mike Murphy on August 4, 2017 6:41 PM
??Carl - Since planned parenthood stopped selling baby parts they did not have money to sponsor us?

??Fred - has PETA heard about your campaign against reptiles?

Keep the faith
Mike
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Tracy French on August 4, 2017 9:25 PM
Will Joe Manchin see the writing on the wall and follow Jim Justice?
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Cookie on August 5, 2017 10:10 AM
Just Saying
The news reported yesterday that a man and woman were arrested for hauling five children in a U-Haul truck.  The children were covered in flea bites, lice and bed bugs.  Interesting part was--they weren't from West Virginia or Appalachia.  They were from Ohio.  "Only in  Ohio"
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Carl on August 5, 2017 11:26 AM
OMG Cookie, am I now going to have to start saying "so what's your point?" to you too?  [OK, OK.  Yes, it is a rhetorical question.  Never mind.  Just saying.]
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Cookie on August 5, 2017 11:34 AM
You get my point!  
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Fredrick Lucas on August 5, 2017 1:41 PM
Carl I did not see Trump in person in Huntington  or on television because I do not display narcissistic  tendencies so I find that I can not comprehend  his discourse.

 
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Carl on August 5, 2017 2:12 PM
??Fred, you are exceedingly wise to keep your narcissistic tendencies out of public view.  I wish that I had your insight and self-discipline.
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geno on August 5, 2017 2:39 PM
heard on news why politicos do not want to repeal Obama care we the tax payers are paying 72% of their health costs, not only cons and sens but all their staff, seems like they and Obama made a secret deal, he proposed they would be called a small business, and under that guise , the taxpayers would  pay the 72% tab of their health ins. funny how this can not be made known over nationaal media, are we or are  we not getting the hind tit off of the fatted cow????????
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Fredrick Lucas on August 7, 2017 8:53 AM
I was talking with a few people my age last week about the beginning of school.When we went to school. the year began the day after labor day. Now school begins on August 15.Cincinnati has a Montessori program from pre school through high school.

What's happening with public schools in Mercer County and the Free State of McDowell County?

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Carl on August 7, 2017 11:31 AM
Fredo, it's interesting that you ask about the Mercer County & McDowell County public schools.  As far as I know, things are pretty quiet in Mercer County, but there's a rumor that McDowell County is expanding the Jolo Middle School "Life Skills" curriculum to include "Safe Snake Handling" -- sort of a Montypython school -- now that it's been determined that this will not constitute a violation of the separation of church and state clause of the First Amendment.  It may be merely a rumor.  I haven't been able to confirm it.  Perhaps you can help.
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Mike Murphy on August 7, 2017 7:51 PM
??I see where Planned Parenthood will offer gender counseling to as early as 4 year olds. Their social engineering is scary. They need to study child development especially thru puberty and the social psychological needs of individuals both M & F. 

Keep the faith
Mike
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Fredrick Lucas on August 8, 2017 7:35 AM
The snake handling movement came from the Church of God of Cleveland Tennessee. The movement today is small. One of the founders of the snake handling movement a man named Hensley was bitten in his old age in Florida. He  refused treatment and died an agonizing death. His death Tracy was ruled a suicide.This happened in 1914.
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Carl on August 8, 2017 2:44 PM
Fredo, that Hensley guy traveled in some fast company, historically.  Recall that Cleopatra left the land of the living on "August 12, 30 B.C., possibly by means of an asp, a poisonous Egyptian serpent and symbol of divine royalty."  [source: history.com]  Her death was also ruled a suicide.  Do you suppose that Mr. Hensley considered himself divine royalty?  I hear that's a common attitude in and around Cleveland, TN; much less so in Ched's part of the state [i.e., "Music City" where humility reigns].
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Tracy French on August 8, 2017 6:17 PM
Fred, if I ever pick up a snake on purpose, other than in defense of myself or another person, and it bites me and I die; you can rule that one a suicide too.

My kidney function recovered a small amount, from 15.6% to 17.8 % over the past 2 weeks.  I cannot get medical approval for the fiscula or PD Cather until it reaches 15%.  I am pleased with the results but my energy level is very low.

Thank all of you for your prayers and concerns.
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Fredrick Lucas on August 9, 2017 10:14 AM
Tracy I am happy that you are on the mend so to speak. Even though you won't participate in the Boston Marathon, you will be happy for the winner.

Mike sometimes four year old children don't identify with their gender.Why? Some boys are born with a deficit of testosterone and identify as a girl. On the other side, some girls have an abundance of testosterone and identify as a boy.



 
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Fredrick Lucas on August 10, 2017 7:27 AM
Mike,the problems of gender faced by some children are far more complex than what I outlined.The Boston University Medical College and the Harvard University Medical  College have several explainations for this complex topic.
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Carl on August 10, 2017 9:17 AM
Fred, that's all well and good for Mike, et. al., but reports from Boston Univ. & Harvard Med. Schools???  I think I'll have to wait for the "Idiot's Guide to Modern Gender Assignment."
   [You know Fred, we used to call gender, sex . . . before it became a clean word.  That's modern progress for you.]
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Mike Murphy on August 10, 2017 9:35 AM
??Social engineering to meet the needs of the progressives is and has harmed too many young people. Fred - government cannot solve everything. In fact I wounder sometimes if they can solve anything - just look at Obuma Care.

keep the faith
Mike
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Ched on August 10, 2017 3:34 PM
I find it  amazing  that  gender identification, transgender issues, etc have only been a serious  topic in recent  years. We never heard of it  when we  were  growing up.
All this stuff is  a bunch of  social engineering stuff kept on the "front page" by  the left. Also I agree  with  the Generals and top military officers. That  the Military is no place  for  anything  which has  the possibility of adversely affecting  the "lethalality" of our  military. No  social  experimentation !!!
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Carl on August 10, 2017 3:51 PM
Murph, Ched, please don't think that I'm just trying to ride your coat-tails to glory, but I'm anti-social too -- always have been.  ["Bah humbug" forever.]
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Edward Laufer on August 10, 2017 2:35 PM
Going back on the blog,I somehow missed the statement that Carl said on July 23rd that I might know names of some Troop 6 and Troop 66 nembers. To keep this tread alive here are some names Mike Farley, the Cline brothers John and Terry,Kenny Conners, Scotty Reid EAGLES ALL!!.
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Edward Laufer on August 10, 2017 2:42 PM
The above mentioned Eagles were in a number of PHS classes including the Class of 1960 but all were in Troop 6 and later named Troop 66
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Fredrick Lucas on August 10, 2017 9:32 PM
I read the report of the physician involved in the transgender study at Boston University.There is much that physicians don't know.When they find a child who wants to be a person of the other gender, they make certain that the person really wants the change, then they make that change. The assumption is that there is a physical basis for the change.For example some folks can have an xxy chromosome.

During my work with the Department of Job and family Services, I helped several transgender people receive unemployment compensation. Several of our male staff were gay.

There are choirs for gay men and women in CincinnatiThose of us who know members of the LGBT community don't try to make life difficult for them. 
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Carl on August 10, 2017 11:22 PM
Fred, I believe that you hold National Public Radio [NPR] in high regard.  Here's an item from NPR.org: "emerging science about brain development suggests that most people don't reach full [decision-making] maturity until the age 25." 
  
Do you then not find troubling your comment that "When [physicians] find a child who wants to be a person of the other gender, they make certain that the person really wants the change, then they make that change. The assumption is that there is a physical basis for the change"?  
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Fredrick Lucas on August 11, 2017 9:07 AM
Carl,there are  several articles about Transgender identification from the Boston University Medical College.Put Transgender identification Boston University into a search engine then you can read what is available. What are they doing? There is another group doing CTE research into problems with brain trauma from football players,boxers,soccer players and I e hockey players



 
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ME on August 11, 2017 9:38 AM
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Fredrick Lucas on August 11, 2017 11:40 AM
The person doing the ZZZ is probably Cookie chocolate chip Hill. 
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Carl on August 11, 2017 3:34 PM
Fred, I think you made a wise choice to use "chocolate chip" vs., say, macadamia nut.
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Delores on August 11, 2017 5:10 PM
Before this goes any further I can assure you she had nothing to do with this.  She is busy reading the sequel to Gone With The Wind--
"Fiddle-Dee-Dee--I'll worry about that tomorrow."
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Carl on August 11, 2017 5:49 PM
Fredo, now that Delores has recused Cookie from consideration, I've concluded that ME is Myron Enderson, [aka "the Z-man"].
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Fredrick Lucas on August 13, 2017 6:08 AM
I am happy that Cookie is reading the sequel to Gone With the Wind. Carl, the Greater Cincinnati Film Commission attracted film makers last year. There were ten motion pictures made in the area.This year three have been made in the area.

After the movies have been made one might say that they are Gone With the Wind.

They come here because the cost of production is lower than  in Los Angeles or New York.
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Carl on August 13, 2017 11:13 AM
Fred, just think how inexpensively those films could be made in Jolo, WV. . . or even Huntington.
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Fredrick Lucas on August 13, 2017 11:46 AM
Carl, if West Virginia has a Film Commission, they can promote West Virginia to film makers.

Cincinnati has been used because there are a number of buildings built in the 1800's and 1900's that can be used as part of the scenery. There are hotels and restaurants near the production sites. Several years ago the movie Rain Man starring Dustin Hoffman was made in Cincinnati and Northern Kentucky for example.


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Fredrick Lucas on August 13, 2017 4:32 PM
Carl,Cincinnati has the Reds baseball team.Should the Charleston minor league team be made into a major league team? Since Jolo is known for snake handling,should they be given funds to build a comprehensive  zoo?

Children's Hospital in Cincinnati will start construction on an 8 story addition.Should the Princeton Hospital receive funds for a new addition?

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Carl on August 13, 2017 9:29 PM
Fredo, I gotta admit you got me there.  But remember, when it's time for a re-make of "Deliverance," I believe Jolo has it all over Cincinnati.
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Carl on August 14, 2017 11:10 AM
My, my, my! I almost forget about birthdays again!!!
Happy August birthdays to:
Adell Modad Pettrey - August 14
Tracy French - August 17
Brenda McDonel Persin - August 20
Becky Arney Novarro - August 23
Terry St. Clair - August 28

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Fredrick Lucas on August 14, 2017 12:07 PM
Carl, I checked and found that National  Those Geographic made a cinema of snake handling churches. They found that 100 people died from snake bites since the movement began. Ched,the Church of God in Cleveland Tennessee is in a different neighborhood from where you live.Right?

I would like to wish our classmates who were born in September a happy birthday. Those who were born in August should be recognized as well. I hope that you have more birthdays.
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Carl on August 14, 2017 12:24 PM
Fredo, I shoulda waited 'til my morning coffee kicked in to address PHS60 birthdays -- momentarily speaking to Sept. dates before correcting my lapse.  You raise a good point re recognizing birthdays on our Blog.  I simply block-and-copy birthdays from the "Birthdays" page on our website into a Blog comment.  Given my increasing propensity for not doing so before the first birthday of the month, any Blog reader is not only welcome to extend the Happy Birthday wish for a month, but is encouraged to "bail me out" when I have failed to do so.  I'll be most thankful -- perhaps eternally grateful -- for your help.
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Ched on August 14, 2017 3:10 PM
Cleveland  TN is not  near my home.
 I had  a wonderful visit with Fran (Rice) Baker and her NASA engineer  hisband SY. On  Sunday.  We  attended  church, had  a lunch  and  toured  Nashville  sights before  sayin  goodby. She  and Sy are a  delight
I am happy  to say  that  they  both  are "ON THE TRUMP TRAIN" !!!!!!
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Tracy French on August 14, 2017 10:19 PM
Speaking of snakes, I saw one today.  Poor thing died after a rock fell on him.
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Fredrick Lucas on August 15, 2017 9:48 AM
fThere is a movie production company filming on Fourth Street in Cincinnati.The movie is titled Reprisal.

As I think of population losses in southern West Virginia, I have learned that population loss has taken place in the following Virginia localities:Pocahantas, Richlands, South Boston and Wytheville.Often the jobs available in these and other small localities don't match the skills of recent high school and college graduates who then migrate to large metro areas.

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Carl on August 15, 2017 12:39 PM
"Reprisal"?  Fredo, is that an "impeach Trump" movie? 
Are you going to be in it?  Will there be a lengthy "winter wonderland" scene?
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Fredrick Lucas on August 15, 2017 6:19 PM
Carl, I do not have any further information about the movie.  I am not involved. I have been interested that the Laufers live in New York City and the Swopes live in Texas. People who live in Texas and New York City have unique accents.

 
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Carl on August 16, 2017 7:37 AM
who knew? 
[To my tin ear, Rick & Edward sound just like they did 60 years ago.  Unique then; unique now.]
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Fredrick Lucas on August 16, 2017 12:26 PM
"Carl  I probably should have mentioned the book Dialectic Diversity in America by William Labor Professor of linguistics at the University of Pennsylvania. He referenced the unique dialicts of the northeast, south and upper midwest. 

I was shocked a n d saddened when the twenty year old Nazi from Ohio drove his car into a group of people killing a young woman and Injuring twelve others. The hate filled rage needs to stop. 
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Cookie on August 16, 2017 5:14 PM
Well obviously it hasn't. Now they are demanding that the coal miner statue in Grundy be removed for the environmental terrorism the miners have heaped on our earth. Now that could get real interesting.  I'll just call that B.S.  Is Mount Vernon next?
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Fredrick Lucas on August 16, 2017 6:33 PM
The statues in the south that glorify Confederate soldiers and slave owners are offensive to our  black friends and neighbors. Their ancestors were enslaved and told that they were inferior to those of European descent. Slave owners denied  blacks the opportunity  to read and write. After the rebellion  blacks were taught in segregated schools.A numbe of them left the south for economic opportunities  elsewhere.

People don,t  enslave  and  belittle others naturally
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Cookie on August 16, 2017 8:32 PM
Well Fredo. My great great grandfather was a confederate prisoner of war at the federal prisoner of war camp at the 3rd most notorious camp in the country. Designed to hold 10,000 it held 20,000 and was guarded by African American troops. Captured at Winchester, some day I'll let you read his account of his torture.  Because he survived I am here to challenge your on-going nonsense of educating those of us who just fell off the cabbage truck. He was one of the lucky ones who spent weeks walking home from Point Lookout Maryland to Mercer County.  I have visited that camp and the mass grave of thousands of un-named on a piece of ground located where the Potomac enters the Chesapeake. About the size of a city block. Read about it then we can talk injustices. 
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Cookie on August 16, 2017 8:39 PM
P S. my previous post mentioned only the stupidity of removing a statue of a coal miner. I am not interested in debating any other current events. I would only be whistling in the wind and everyone has an opinion.
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ched on August 20, 2017 1:57 PM
Being offended is not a valid  reason  to  destroy hisorical elements.  Thes people were  and are not  slaves  and  we  are not Natzies.   SO  WHAT  !!
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Tracy French on August 16, 2017 10:45 PM
Cookie: 

If you would whistle in the wind; you would be whistling "Dixie" wouldn't you?

Donald Trump has once again proved he is a president of the people regardless of the issue.  He is to be commended for speaking up for those of us who just want to live peaceable and get along together.
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Cookie on August 16, 2017 11:08 PM
Hi Tracy:  Hope you are doing well.  Always good to see you posting here.  Read your book today.  Appreciate your sending it.
Actually, I'm whistling "God Bless America."
I saw some French names on the list of Mercer County captured who were sent to Point Lookout.  Actually, there is a very long list---many familiar hometown names.  I couldn't believe how many of them ended up there.  
"Oh Fiddle Dee Dee!  I'm worry about that tomorrow.  No, I know what I'll do, I''ll go home.  Yes, I'll go home to Princeton then everything will be ok."
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Fredrick Lucas on August 17, 2017 7:31 AM
Carl I made an error. The Professor of linguisrics is William Labov. Cookie, the rebellion was over in 1865.How does that relate to the murder of a young woman in Charlottesville?
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Mike Murphy on August 17, 2017 9:33 AM
??Fred - Your use of racism at every turn over the years to try to impune anyone who does not have your ultra liberal views is tedious at best. West Virginia and Princeton is not ready to be transformed into San Francisco and I hope will retain their conservative constitutional values instead of being shamed for history for which they had no control. In fact WV is the only state that was created by secession and had very few slaves.

??By the way we have Google, Wikipedia, Television and newspapers and can acess the huffington post, so your parroting of liberal propoganda and trivia is not needed to illudicidate us backward Mountaineers - Montani Semper Liberi.

??Liberals want to erase our history and make us all one gender through social engineering and you buy into this nonsense because it fits your agenda, but don't try to blast your apparent shame on your esteemed classmates.

??A proud patriotic Appalachin
Mike 

 
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Fredrick Lucas on August 17, 2017 10:00 AM
Mike I have been shocked over the murder of a young woman in Charlottesville.What is your point? What is your definition of social engineering and liberalism?  You say that you have a graduate degree. Define your terms.

Robert E. Lee did not want statues built to honor him .
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Fredrick Lucas on August 17, 2017 10:27 AM
Mike, I've never been in San Francisco. Why do you think that I am trying to ridicule you or other classmates? There has been an ou t migration of young people from the state for many years. We have given our talents to the states in which we now call home.


I think that you will be safe in Kenna .
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Fredrick Lucas on August 17, 2017 1:30 PM
  1. To help West Virginia, I donated $260 to the Concord Foundation this year.I paid my property taxes in full. Over the years I donated $5500 to the WVU Foundarion, $300 to United Way for flood relief. Finally, I donated 750 CD recordings to the Concord Music Department. When the 29  miners dissed West Virginia miners lost their lives, I sent a donation. Don Blankenship was held responsible for the loss and spent a year in prison. It doesn't appear to me that I have dissed the state.
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Delores on August 17, 2017 3:53 PM
Poor Fredo is a victim 
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Carl on August 17, 2017 5:18 PM
Fred, my friend, I've said it before and I'll say it again.  You're a good, kind, generous and honorable person of strong principle and voice.  I applaud your good efforts and note that our Blog would be far less interesting were you not an active participant.  You inspire me to quote Evelyn Beatrice Hall, but I'm going to restrain myself.          MAGFAY
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Fredrick Lucas on August 17, 2017 7:50 PM
Frances Roney, the daughter of Bill Roney died at age 66. The funeral was August 17.She and her sister Renee were developmentally disabled. Her sister Renee was our age. The obituary is on the Seaver web site
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Fredrick Lucas on August 17, 2017 7:55 PM
Cookie and Mike have you observed the number of death notices that I have posted?
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Fredrick Lucas on August 18, 2017 8:58 AM
Unfortunately  Ohio has had a problem with hate groups.President Grant created the Justice Department in order to monitor hate groups such as the Kkk.

Today Florida has the largest number of hate groups followed by California and Texas
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Carl on August 18, 2017 12:35 PM
Fred, this is a sincere, honest question:
Where did you get your info re hate groups by state? 
I'd like to do some of my own research and don't want to overlook your source(s).
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Fredrick Lucas on August 19, 2017 6:08 AM
Carl, I put hate groups in the United States into a search engine and found several articles from the Miama  Hearld . The article said thar rhere are 90 hate groups in California
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Fredrick Lucas on August 19, 2017 5:54 PM
MIke the statements that I made about black concerns when viewing a statue of Robert E Lee Stonewall Jackson and other slave owning soldiers who wanted to break up the union is understandable.

 Not only were the blacks enslaved, they were not given the rudiments of an education.After the rebellion was crushed,the southern and border states issued a policy of racial segregation.Not only were schools,busses,restaurants ,cinemas laundramats racially segregated but a woman could not go to a clothing store to try on a dress.We can never know the depth of frustration,tension and disparate when our black friends and neighbors see statues of slave owning warriors who wanted to destroy the union 

When I was in Germany,I did not see a statue to Adolph Hitler.My attention was focused on Charlottesville.  I also thought of the monuments in Richmond Va.and the feelings of contemporary blacks who viewed them
I Did not make any references to Princeton WV.
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Cookie on August 19, 2017 6:58 PM
EXCUSE ME:  Are you comparing our confederate leaders to Adolph Hitler?  Where did you get that--anal extrapolation.  I'll just leave it at that and let you continue pontificating. 
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Mike Murphy on August 19, 2017 9:56 PM
??The new push and current narrative by the progressive democrat party is to call the President and any conservative as supporting a "hate group" and therefore racist and facisist. Fred you think you are "cute" promoting the progressive agenda (you can look up progressive and liberal and social engineering on Google) if you need terms defined (shade from not having your doctorate degree?) and act like you are not promoting an agenda. Every graduate of PHS60 is fully aware of slavery in the USA and I know of not one of them who is responsible for it. Perhaps your guilt is misplaced? All of the confederate leaders were democrats so I guess that you do want to rewrite history? Also Robert Bird was a KKK member are we going to tear down over 400 markers to him in WV?

??Have you ever read I'm OK Your OK?  I commend you on your financial contributions and your obituaries but not on your "cute" narrative that conservatives are rasict and non carring and somehow need schooling by you!

??Keep the faith
??Mike


 
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ched on August 20, 2017 2:01 PM
How  does  anyone know  what  Robert E Lee  wanted
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Carl on August 20, 2017 6:57 AM
Ahhh, Sunday morning . . . when discussions of good vs. evil are most common.  I offer what I hope is a welcome diversion, one of the best TV commercials ever:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DAWGlQP8IJI
Just copy & paste the link into your browser and hit "Enter."
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ched on August 20, 2017 2:10 PM
With all of  the  stuff  going on Will they tear  down  the  Washington,and Jefferson monuments in DC.?  What is  the  future  for  W& L ( Washington and Lee ) University.  Lee's horse " Traveller" is mounted  there.  Alabama joins  a list of  states passing laws  to protect ALL monuments !! 
 This  stuff is  crazy. Offended ?????  So  what  !!!

 
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Mike Murphy on August 21, 2017 12:06 PM
??Getting ready for my first eclipse. Ched and Tom it appears that you guys may have the best location?

Keep the Faith
Mike
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Carl on August 21, 2017 12:36 PM
Me too, Murph.  It will be passing thru right during my "after lunch" nap time.  I expect the darkness to add to my slumber.
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Ched on August 21, 2017 8:37 PM
We were within 5 miles of the centerline of the eclipse so we experienced about 2 minutes of totality. We live a little north of Nashville. The Nashville area had several thousand visitors to witness the eclipse. It was pretty spectacular and there was a significant temperature drop as darkness arrived.
Tracy, I hope you are doing better. Prayers for you!!!
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Carl on August 23, 2017 11:06 AM
HAPPY BIRTHDAY to my dear, dear second cousin Becky Arney Novarro.  Still lookin' good after all these years. 
[You know that you're older than me, right?]
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Fredrick Lucas on August 23, 2017 8:17 PM
Cookie go fix some ice cream.The Germans realized the harm that Adolphus Hitler did to his fellow human beings and did not build statues. I do not think that white southerners realized the harm the slave owners did when they enslaved blacks,refused to provide them the rudiments of an education and segregated them from white society.

How would you feel if you could not try on a dress before buying it. The key word is empathy. MY Ballard ancestors  were m embers of the Union army, 


FRED
 
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Delores on August 23, 2017 8:39 PM
Cookie says you are a giant bore.    Her message is that her Hypes ancestors were soilders in the Confederate army, prisoners of war at Point Lookout in St. Mary's County, Maryland, the 3rd worse camp during the war. What the black union guards put her great great grandfather through cannot be repeated on this blog.  Its all outlined in our family history. 
She passes on the ice cream.  Your continual efforts at educating the ignorant masses has forced her to drink.  I keep reminding her how sweet you were at PHS.  I can't repeat her retort here.  
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Delores on August 23, 2017 8:43 PM
P. S.
She says to tell you that NO ONE on either side of the family ever owned a slave.  Her ancesters SLAVED as farmers and carpenters several of whom came to this country in the late 1600s and early 1700s as indentured servants.  You will be "amused" to know they also fought in the Revolutionary War--on the right side for which I would hope your political leanings would approve.  
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Fredrick Lucas on August 23, 2017 9:37 PM
Cookie,I am not trying to educate anyone. I am making a few obssrvations. MY Callaway  ancestors remained loyal to the Union. My great great grandfather   McCombs Callaway  operated a  clothing  store for men. In  Lebanon Ohio.His father lived on a farm in Raleigh County. He would not fight anyone. MY great grandfather d father lived in Peterstown. He would not fight anyone.In 1867 he  was elected to the  office of County  Clerk in the new state of West Virginia. He served. One term.

Cookie and Mike, When I discuss slavery, I am  Making  conversation. I am not doing anything else.




 
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Delores on August 24, 2017 12:13 AM
Cookie is having a good laugh.  Your men folk wouldn't fight??  There is a name for that.  All the men in her family were fighters.  They didn't like being pushed. Thats the way the women folk liked them.  
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Mike Murphy on August 24, 2017 9:21 AM
??Fred- You seem really defensive, what did you do to make you want to shame others for your manufactured ideals?

Keep the faith
Mike
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Fredrick Lucas on August 24, 2017 5:37 PM
Mike why do you think that I am defensive and shame others? My Callaway  and Ballard ancestors remained loyal to the United States. Cookie had an ancestor who fought with the Confederacy. For me that was a part of history. He suffered for his decision and my ancestors did not. McComas Callaway was busy with the clothing store. His children were students  at the local public schools.

In Raleigh  County, the county offices were closed from 1861 until the conflict was over in 1865. Emotions were high and people were afraid to travel .


I suggested that  Cookie get some ice cream . Now she might enjoy that southern drink mint julip
 
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Delores on August 24, 2017 6:35 PM
Cookie just said "well we've gone full circle. Thanks to the total eradication of common sense now I'm afraid to travel.  Thanks snowflakes."  She is shipping a case of bubbles, play dough and a counselor so you will feel safe.  
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Fredrick Lucas on August 24, 2017 7:13 PM
Cookie Franlkin D. Roosevelt once said that we have nothing to fear but fear itself. Go with confidence. I forgot to ask do you like mint julip?
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Fredrick Lucas on August 24, 2017 8:53 PM
Yesterday, something dreadful happened in Mason Ohio.A woman scientist who worked for Procter and Gamble left her 15 month old son locked in her car with the windows rolled up. When her shift ended, she went to her car and found that her son had died. She called 911 and reported what had happened. The death is under investigation.
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Ched on August 24, 2017 8:41 PM
I agree 1000%  with Cookie !!  I am  southern and proud of my many southern ancestors. None of us or  our  recent  ancestors had  slaves nor  did any black  folks today endure slavery.  The .  confederacy is part of our history.
 Robert E Lee  was a  decorated and respected officer in the United States  Army  after  a  remarkable career at  West Point.
 He  was reknowned  for his  service in the  Mexican war.
His family owned  slaves but ( to the  best I can find out ) he never  did.

 I think  the  demolution of civle  war  artifacts  and monuments is  a  travesty.  Many are on display in the US  Capitol
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Cookie on August 24, 2017 10:45 PM
A couple of days ago a woman I know extremely well posted something on Facebook that made me spit my coffee across the room.  She is probably one of the most articulate people I know with an I.Q. that is off the charts, college educated, speaks in grammatically perfect sentences and holds a highly respected position with a large corporation.  Regarding the momuments she stated, "Why do we need the F... momuments (she swears liberally too)?  We have books."

I did what I always do and begin typing frantically.  Paused to read my reply and slowly began...delete, delete, delete, etc.  How do you debate that kind of mentality?  There is a difference betwen intelligence and sense.  My deleted response was, "What happens when they burn the books?"
Does my friend get the point?
P.S.  Ched--thanks for the vote of confidence.  I feel so alone. :-)
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Carl on August 25, 2017 6:01 AM
Cookie, I often tell people that I've been educated beyond my intelligence.  Perhaps the same's true of your friend.  [Not that that's an excuse for saying stupid things.  Believe me, I know -- or I think I do; I don't know.]
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Fredrick Lucas on August 25, 2017 10:13 AM
Ched, According to sources that I have found Robert E. Lee inherited  slaves from his mother when she died. His wife owned slaves. He would take charge of disciplining  the slaves.From my perspective  thinking of them as inferior, refusing to give them the rudiments of an education , breaking up families by trading them like cattle demonstrates moral bankruptcy. 
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Carl on August 25, 2017 11:29 AM
Fredo, human beings being what they are, there's an abundance of moral bankruptcy at all times, during all ages.  Some of us believe that it's most important to focus on what is at hand, over which we may be able to exert some influence.  Perserverating about moral bankruptcy of 1-20 centuries ago serves no purpose, so far as I can see, except to make cheap pronouncements criticizing the political/social foes of our day.  What I hear in today's "honest discussions" is mostly smug, sanctimonious, self-righteous, self-satisfied, self-congratulatory, intellectually dishonest claptrap . . . "on all sides" . . . but particularly on the _____.
NOTE: I'm referring to the "great national debate" that is bombarding us in the mainstream and social media -- NOT to my PHS60 colleagues.
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Cookie on August 25, 2017 12:06 PM
When did we start holding people responsible for what someone else did?

A copy of the famous painting of Robert E Lee and Stonewall hangs in my dining room.  It will stay.
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Mike Murphy on August 25, 2017 12:26 PM
??Carol- Dr Leornard Nelson's Obiturary and an article about him are in todays Charleston Gazette Mail. They mentioned his love for tennis and Golf, did you ever play tennis with him?  I recall back in the 70's he was wanting to start a BS progrm for Industrial Education Teachers in conjunction with a MA program with Marshall and Clarence Burdette and I went to discuss and play golf with him at Hawks Nest course. Talk about a rough sky high course. He was a great guy and longest reigning President of WVT. RIP. Are you and family OK?, haven't heard from you lately RSVP.
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Mike Murphy on August 25, 2017 12:34 PM
??Fred - You showcase the Callaways and Ballards (by the way I went to a bird dog feild trial at Judge Ballards farm in the late 50's) as a reason to be hollier than though on southerners, but I thought your family name was Lucas, did it thrace back to 
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Mike Murphy on August 25, 2017 12:44 PM
??something happened?? But to finish my previous post - Fred did your ansestory lead back to Adolph Lucas? 

??My observation - you comparing yourself to Cookie is that you are out of your leage in intellect and philosophical character. Perhaps you need to eat some ice cream and drink a mint julip? and quit taking the Huffington Post as the Holy grail!

Keep the Faith
Mike
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AnnsestorDNA.com on August 25, 2017 4:49 PM
Breaking News. Breaking News.
Fred Lucas just got the results of his Ancestry DNA analysis and he is distraught beyond words. He had always thought and preached that he was from pure, liberal, Obama loving, northern stock with last names such as Callaways and Ballards. Well, seems that the results (similar to the man on the commercial who thought he had a German heritage) have been totally discounted.

Only about 15% of Fred's DNA can be attributed to ancestors from the Callaways and Ballards lines. Ten per cent can be attributed to Native American relatives. Another 10% could not be identified. The remainder, a whopping 65% came from conservative, freedom loving, hard working, Southerners (mostly from South Carolina and Georgia). Their last names were Davis, Lee, Beauregard, and Brown. Some fought and supported the Confederacy in a war caused by numerous political and cultural differences with their northern neighbors.

Fred, you should be proud of your ancestors and heritage. Karma is a "B", isn't she?

 

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Cookie on August 25, 2017 4:53 PM
Well "Fiddle Dee Dee"  On that note I'm just gonna have Mammy bring me the whole pitcher of Mint Julips.
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Ched on August 25, 2017 8:50 PM
My dad  was an expert  at making Mint Juleps.  As   a matter of  fact he once owned  two  wire  hair fox terriers one named Mint  and  the other named  Julep !! Hows  that for "southern" !!!
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Fredrick Lucas on August 26, 2017 9:35 AM
The Lucas group lived in Giles County.My grandfather was a blacksmith who came to Princeton to work in the Virginian shops.My Dad graduated from Princeton High School and served in the US Navy during World War 2.

 
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Fredrick Lucas on August 26, 2017 9:47 AM
Mikie, you need to contribute original thoughts about topics that are of interest to you. You and Delores from the forest tend to react to what I initiate. 

Folks when I go to a store, I tell the clerk to put the item in a poke. That comes from Appalachia.


 
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Fredrick Lucas on August 26, 2017 11:30 AM
During the civil war, Hamilton County was invaded by John Hunt Morgan of Lexington Kentucky. He called himself General Morgan. Prior to his invasion of Hamilton County, he and his men stole the county treasury at Versailles. In Hamilton County they stole food, horses, clothing, firearms and ammunition. Fortunately they did not know that General Sherman's daughter was a student at a Catholic High School in Greenhills Ohio. The nuns hid the horses that the school owned.

When Hunt and his men were caught, they were tried as criminals, sentenced and were sent to the Ohio Reformatory in Columbus.

I spoke with a woman from the fitness center who told me that her high school class held its 70th reunion this year.


 
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mike murphy on August 26, 2017 11:56 AM
??Fredrica - When have you ever posted an origional thought. You spew the progressive liberal claptrap from the internet to try to make yourself look like a champion of the berieved. For instance have you looked at who is included by the illegitimate hate group Southern Law Center in their listing of hate groups? No you just parrot cliches and forment conflict to emphasize your liberal misguided misinformed beliefs. People like you are trying to shame amyone who disagrees with them by claimin they are Racists. 
??Folks I am sorry I should consider the source and let this go but things are begining to boil over.
Keep the Faith
Mike
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Delores on August 26, 2017 12:30 PM
Cookie got a big laugh regarding your statement that she and Mike needed original thought.
She says thats the whole point!  She has given you original thought for years now but you appear to be so deed in the weeds you can't recognize it.
She also says she hopes the Google function on your computer never gives out.  Google is not an original thought.  
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Fredrick Lucas on August 26, 2017 1:15 PM
When I was a boy, I learned that a Col. Jennifer came to Princeton in 1862. There was no provocation yet he burned the town. Only the McNutt house remained.There were 1200 homeless refugees.Jennifer and his men went south.At Wytheville, they were met  by townspeople who were armed and ready to fight.Col. Jennifer was a rebel fighter. Mike I don't pay any attention to your critiques.

Delores from the Forest, I will be happy to bring some ice cream and mint julip to the  reunion on October 21. 



 
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Fredrick Lucas on August 26, 2017 1:55 PM
Mike, do you believe that I am making a generaliztioon that all descendants of rebel soldiers are racist, then you need to stop. I have never articulated any such notion.I don't believe that you and Delores from  the forest are members of the KKK or any other hate group.

Please seek mental health counseling if you are boiling over.

 
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Mike Murphy on August 26, 2017 4:22 PM
??Fred- My reference to boiling over was to the removal of statues and your need to inflame racial hatred by implication. I appreciate your trying to help me be a better progressive, but pretty much have my personal and professional life where I want it to be. In other words mind your own business and keep your hollier than though and smarter than though advice to yourself.

??Pete & Tracy how about a report on your health and well being. Also a poem from our resident Poet, Carl would be appreciated by me and most?

Keep the Faith
Mike 
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Fredrick Lucas on August 26, 2017 6:37 PM
Mike, the statues were built between 1890-1920.Various cities have taken them down. Charlottesville has draped their statue of Robert. E. Lee in black plastic.Austin Texas took down their statues.So did Baltimore. I favor those moves because the decendants of the 1200 homeless refugees from Princeton won't have to be reminded of the cruel treatment their ancestors received from Col Jennifer.
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Fredrick Lucas on August 26, 2017 6:42 PM
Mike try spell check.All of your gentle readers will be able to know what you want to convey.
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Ched on August 26, 2017 7:48 PM
Fred,
 What in  the  world  does Col Jennifer have  to do with anything. It is  a  travesty  to destroy and otherwise  remove monuments erected  to  notables on both  sides  of  the  conflict.  What  about  the  Washington Monument, the Jefferson Memorial  ( both  slave owners ) and all of  the  statues in the Nations  Capitol. History is just  what it is : HISTORY; the PAST. Nothing  can change it. Just because some may be offended is of little justification   I am offended by liberal snow flakes  too  weak to accept  the reality of  the past  but I cannot  do anything  about it.

 I guess Cookie  and I  are too much steeped in Brush Creek water  to fully understand  the lib pointof view
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Fredrick Lucas on August 26, 2017 8:25 PM
Ched, Col. Jennifer displayed cruelty to  innocent people. The Confederate group if successful would have destroyed the nation. As we learned from history the protection of slavery was included in their constitution.Lincoln did away with slavery in states in 1863 , those that left the union.

Many blacks and others don't want to be reminded of the cruelty of slavery. They don't want to be reminded of the cruelty of segregation.The key word Ched is empathy. We were fortunate that we were not told to ride in the back of the bus, to buy clothes without trying them on, to be told that we are inferior and have to use separate water fountains.Black baseball players had to enter hotels through the kitchen during segregation. What happened to our black friends during segregation and slavery was cruel.Can you put yourself in their shoes? Don't forgetRobert Lee inherited slaves upon his mother's death. His wife owned slaves. All were freed in 1862 when Lee was 55. He disciplined slaves by having them flogged.Your turn 
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Mike Murphy on August 26, 2017 8:39 PM
??Fred- If you are so dissatisfied with the united states and especially Apalacha and West Virginia I sugest you move to Canada where they have made new gender classifications for M for Male, F for Female, and X for all others including Bi Sexuals and those who can't decide. And people are allowed to pick out their dress before they buy it. 

??Will spell check get you unstuk from petty politics? Perhaps you should study History and Civics some more?

Ched - I learned to swim in Brush Creek and still can't put my head under water but only hope that the IntaFa doesn't get me.

??By the way Charletsville is a tradgedy that never should have happened if the Police had done their job. Some say it might have been orchastrated?

Keep the Faith
??Mike


 
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Cookie on August 26, 2017 10:13 PM
With all sincerity I am truly sorry you are so angry at the world Fred.  You must be to spend so much time spewing hatred, dredging up past ills that none of us can correct, throwing gasoline on fires and being rude to your classmates.  When you are called on it or your views are challenged you cry foul and claim mis-treatment.  All of us have been mistreated for months with these posts.  I wish you only the best but your posts are no longer effective.
P.S. I am divorcing you.  I want the house, 1/2 your pension and the car.  
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Fredrick Lucas on August 27, 2017 8:28 AM
Delores of the forest, I will be going to the annual Scottish Festival in Columbus Indiana on September 8.I will watch the beautiful young scottish dancers and an ulder man playing the bag pipes. I will be eating scones and watching the caber toss.In the past, I saw Mike Pence who is from Columbus.

That evening, I will enjoy a community meal with others whose ancestors came from Scotland.My ancestors were Ballards who lived in Lanark.

I will return to the LaQuinta Inn where I will relax. On Sunday, I will go to Nashville In to see what the artists have done.


 
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Mike Murphy on August 27, 2017 10:04 AM
??Fred from the dred - Sounds like you will have a wounderful time, enjoy.

??I am amazed at what you can buy from Amazon. My 10 yr old lawn tractor finally blew a bearing and seazed up. I not only found the bearing but the shaft and mandrel assembly with 2 day shipping for a competetive price. You will need your manual with the parts numbers to be able to find items quickly. Also buy vitamins clothing shoes electronics and small appliances. Prime membership is well worth the cost. Saved a $2000 mower for $25 in parts including shipping.

??Keep the Trump Train rooling!!! and drain the SWAMP!!!

??Keep the faith
Mike 
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Ched on August 27, 2017 3:41 PM
Mike,
 I am an internet  shopper  also.  I find  ebay is  also a goosource  for difficult  to  find  items.  For  appliance parts  you cannot beat "Repair  Clinic". The  also have  som online  videos for DIY  repairs.
For  automotive parts I recommend  " Rock Auto". Prices  and  quality are  excellent >  Good luck
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Fredrick Lucas on August 27, 2017 4:42 PM
The State of Maryland  took the statue of Supreme Court  Justice Roger Taney down.He wrote the Dred Scott decision.
 
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Cookie on August 27, 2017 5:50 PM
Yes like a thief in the night under the cover of darkness.  And  by a governor w possibly the highest approval rating in the country.  He stepped in it royally.  From both sides of the aisle he is being skewered.  Bad political move. This is not news.  Was this post an effort to bring me back into the fold and call off my divorce proceedings?  I'm still divorcing you.  Like an abused wife I've learned it's not my fault.
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Fredrick Lucas on August 27, 2017 8:13 PM
DDelloorees from the forest While I am interested in the disposition  of stafues, I am   more interested  in the floods in Southeastern Texas. Many residents are having a difficult  time I would encourage each of you to give several dollas to flood relief.

I know that the Red Cross is accepting donations. I haven't  heckled other sources 

 
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Edward Laufer on August 27, 2017 8:02 PM
To change the subject a bit. I know a lot of us are following the weather in Texas and may not know that a couple of our classmates are right in the middle of the disaster there. Rick Swope and his wife are living in Houston and Will and his wife are living not too far from there in College Station have not heard from them since Saturday They also
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Edward Laufer on August 27, 2017 8:07 PM
The Will is Will and Vita Wilhelm. Theor property is getting some water, but they say the big concern is in the Houston area.I am certain that all of us feel for the people down there whether classmates or fellow Americans there.
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Fredrick Lucas on August 27, 2017 8:23 PM
The address for the American Red Cross is American  Red Cross  Texas Gulf Coast  Region 2700 Southwest  Freeway Houston  Texas
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Fredrick Lucas on August 27, 2017 8:30 PM
The zip code for Houston  is 77098. Please do what you   can to help.

 
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Fredrick Lucas on August 27, 2017 8:30 PM
The zip code for Houston  is 77098. Please do what you   can to help.

 
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Ched on August 27, 2017 9:42 PM
I  can also  suggest Samaritons Purse. This is  a benevolent  relief  foundation headed by Franklin Graham.
 I am not  a big  fan of  the  Red  Cross. They  do some  good  work but are encumbered  by too much bureaucratic red  tape  and  restrictions. opinion of 
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Fredrick Lucas on August 28, 2017 8:11 AM
Rick Swope lives in Humble Texas and JK George lives in Austin. Has anyone made contact with them? I hope there is no property damage or personal loss or pain.
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Fredrick Lucas on August 28, 2017 10:45 AM
Delores I am going to mention that there are a list of charities online to which people can give knowing that their donation will help.They are approved by charity navigator.The American Red Cross is one of those charities.Senator Cruz suggested that people should consider the Red Cross. He lives in Houston.

Samantha's Purse is not listed as an approved charity by charity navigator. It is absent from the list.

 
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Ched on August 28, 2017 12:21 PM
Fred, Its not  Samanthas Purse It is  Samaritans Purse and it IS listed !!!
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Carl on August 28, 2017 11:16 AM
Just read an email response from Rick & Marie Swope from 11:27 pm last night. They were high and dry and safe, and expecting to stay that way with power to sustain TV/video watching. They had heard on Sat. that the Wilhelms & Georges were OK too.
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Carl on August 28, 2017 2:33 PM
Fred, my friend,
    A question just came to me from all this discussion of fighting ancestors.  [Can't believe it didn't occur to me before.]  Did one of your forebears invent the carnival and amusement park shooting gallery where the ducks swin by and customers try to pick them off?  This seemed to me like a reasonable curiosity given all the fire that you draw on our blog.
   ;-)
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Fredrick Lucas on August 28, 2017 7:10 PM
Marlin Douglas is my first cousin. He and his brother Paul owned Douglas Sporting Goods.We bought fishing tackle from them. My Dad  bought shot guns and did skeet shooting. My brother Steve uses bows and arrows to try to hit a bullseye target.

I am happy that the Texas contingent is safe.
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Mike Murphy on August 28, 2017 7:37 PM
??I wounder if the mechanical bull at Gilley's is dry, if Gilley's ie Urban Cowboy still exists?

??It will be months before houses are back inhabitabital. It appears that many are slab foundations w the electrical in the floors. If so it will be a long time before they can dry out. Dry wall will have to be ripped and walls dried not to mention ceilings in some cases. and it looks like the worst is yet to come. Pray for clear weather and safe passage to dry land!!

??Keep the Faith
Mike
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Fredrick Lucas on August 29, 2017 11:37 AM
I did as Gov. Abott and Senator Cruz suggested and made a donation to the American Red Cross. For those who are interested in how Gov. Abbot became a wheelchair user, he was jogging in 1984 when an oak tree fell on him. He was paralyzed from the waist down. 

One problem that Houston faces is that they don't  have a zoning ordinance . Developers have built in the flood plain and elsewhere. Some years ago, I visited my brother who worked in Houston. He and his family lived in Spring. I got a headace from the pollution.
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Edward Laufer on August 29, 2017 4:51 PM
Regarding the disaster from Hurricane Harvey, I would strongly advise checking major charities whose Web sites such as the Red Cross already have subsections for contributions to Hurricane Harvey. Local shelters,church's,charities in Houston will need money for months and mail service will be delayed for awhile
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ched on August 29, 2017 7:19 PM
Most of  the  flood  victoms in Houston have no flood insurance  so their losses  will not be "covered". SAD!
 I did  research>  Charity Navigator  gives Samaritans Purse  a  full 4  star  rating. I like  Franklin Graham so that is  where  we  donated earmarking  the  gift  for Hurricane Harvey Relief
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Fredrick Lucas on August 29, 2017 9:17 PM
Procter and  Gamble has dispatched itS truck full of products to Houston.The company did this during the floods in West Virginia. People can wash clothes while they are away from their homes.
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Carl on August 30, 2017 11:45 AM
Just read online that "85% of brain growth is complete at age 3."  WOW!  I know any number of people who haven't added a whit to that throughout the rest of their lives.  [Present company excepted.]
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Carl on August 30, 2017 3:33 PM
Fredo, you may recall that I'm a life-long St. Louis Cardinals fan.  Cardinal 1st baseman Matt Carpenter announced on Monday that he would donate $10,000 for every home run he hits the rest of this year to Texas flood relief; his teammate Adam Wainwright announced that he would match Carpenter's contribution; the club then announced that it too would match.  The following day Carpenter hit a shot.  BINGO!!!  $30,000 to the TX recovery effort.  How 'bout them Cards?
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Fredrick Lucas on August 30, 2017 8:39 PM
 Carl, Perhaps we can encourage members of our class to donate what they can to help the Huston insurance through this crisis.

I learned that various costal cities have hired Dutch consultants to help them manage the floods that create crises.The Dutch have been successful  minimizing the harmful effects of floods.  
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Fredrick Lucas on August 30, 2017 9:10 PM
CarL I made an error.I hope that our classmates donate to help Houston residents. A number of us donated money to help flood victims in West Virginia 

 
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Fredrick Lucas on August 31, 2017 8:26 AM
Carl, since the ball players announced what they have done, I will announce that I donated $120 to the American Red Cross. I want to challenge classmates to meet or exceed my donation.
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Carl on August 31, 2017 9:06 AM
Nice work, Fredo.  I sent a different amount to a different charity earlier this week for TX flood relief.  I'm confident that others have/will as well. Here's to FAITH, HOPE & CHARITY.
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Carl on August 31, 2017 9:48 AM
MARTIN ALERT!  MARTIN ALERT!
Carol Wyrick Martin, people are asking.  I was talking to a classmate this week who asked about you.  I had to say that I knew very little since you haven't been heard from on the PHS60 blog for some time now.  Have you anything to say for yourself?
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Carl on August 31, 2017 9:58 AM
STRESS RELIEF IS HERE!
I know, I know. Everyone is wringing their hands and wondering "Will Carl forget to post the birthdays for September?"  Well, allay your fears friends, the answer [i.e., solution] is at hand.
   Coming in Sept. to a website near you:
   The Sept. 9 birthday of Mayor of Kenna, Mike Murphy.
   Later, on Sept. 30 is that special day for Linda Phlegar Mills.
   In between, everyone's favorite birthdate of the year, Sept. 28, when Sam Goodall will turn 75.  [Oh yeah, Carl's is Sept. 28 also.] 

Mike Murphy - September 9
Sam Goodall - September 28
Carl Thomason - September 28
Linda Phlegar Mills - September 30
 
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Cookie on August 31, 2017 12:49 PM
30 years ago (or so) I was walking through the food court at Baltimore's Inner Harbor with my parents who were visiting.  I heard a man talking behind us.  I looked at my mother and said, "That has to be Sam Goodall.  I remember that voice."  I turned and Yes it was Sammy with his family who were also visiting from Princeton.  We all had a great laugh and a nice visit.  Odd I could have remembered his voice.  I can't remember what I had for breakfast. 
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Carl on August 31, 2017 3:30 PM
Cookie, in case you hadn't heard, I'm happy to report that the Inner Harbor lifted their restraining order on Sam a good 5-6 years ago.
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Mike Murphy on August 31, 2017 6:28 PM
Cookie - I miss the inner harbor - loved the sea food and boardwalk fries.

??I saw in the local rag ttoday that a man in Bluefield, Howard, if I rember right branded his girl friend wit a fork and a horse shoe twice!  Tracy - I think this is worse than snake handling, what are you guys preaching down there?

Keep the faith
??Mike
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Mike Murphy on September 1, 2017 9:18 AM
WVU vs VT in Landover this Sunday. Carl and Cookie they are on your turf.

??Tracy - just kidding about Preaching _ How are you progressing with Dialasis? 

??Hope to see you guys and Gals on Tuesday and visit my brother.

Keep the Faith
Mike

 
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Fredrick Lucas on September 1, 2017 3:41 PM
I would like to wish those with September birthdays a happy birthday. I know that as we age we experience various health problems. One of my friends who is 71 has altzheimers dementia.She  needs a full time caregiver who takes care of her physical needs.I hope that your quality of life is still good.
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Mike Murphy on September 2, 2017 6:04 PM
??I heard on tv last eve that Bluefield beat Princeton 62 to 0 in football. Was that right?

Mike
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geno on September 3, 2017 3:03 PM
yes
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Tracy French on September 3, 2017 5:31 PM
Mike: 

I haven't been approved to have the ports installed for dialysis yet.  The doctor says I have to drop to 15% of my kidney function first.  I was at 15.6 % but increased to 17.8% with my last blood test.

I saw your nephew at church this morning.  I started back to my old church today.

 
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Ched on September 4, 2017 6:17 PM
Tracy,
 If  your kidney function increases isn't  that  good news ??? Are  you on  dialysis now ?
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Ched on September 4, 2017 6:21 PM
I realize  that most of  my  classmates were  rootin' for  the  "eers" last night and my Hokies  got  the  win but  what  a heckuva game. A nail biter up until  the last  play !!!!!
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Tracy French on September 5, 2017 11:14 AM
Ched:

I have not started dialysis yet.  According to mydoctor, insurance will not pay to have ports installed until my kidney function drops to 15 % and it was up 2.2% last time and that is good news.  I made  some changes in my diet, eliminating all beef products and going heavy on green vegetables.

That was a great game between Tech and WV, I could hardly believe how many fans from each team showed up at a neutral site.  I enjoyed that better than a bowl game.

A good game between Tennessee and Ga Tech last night also.  I would have gone for the 2 point conversion too.  Tennessee had far too much momentum at the end of the game.  If Tennessee plays a game like that 4th quarter and overtime it will be interesting when they play Alabama.
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ched on September 5, 2017 3:05 PM
Tennessee  won on points in the  end but  GT  ran all over  them  all evening. TN  gave up a  school record of 695  yards. Had it not been for  the  improbable  strip of  the ball  from GT  runner or  the blocked FG at  the  end of  regulation  this  would have been a win for GT either  way.  Tennessee  was gifted on two plays. Other wise  they were beaten all night. ( My take)  I also liked  the 2 point  call !!
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geno on September 5, 2017 4:30 PM
well, just heard Hillary, she now blames Bernie for election loss instead of us deplorables.
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Fredrick Lucas on September 5, 2017 6:18 PM
Cookie, I found a Callaway ancestor who lived in Raleigh County who fought with the Confederate army. He was a part time soldier. He fought during the winter months but returned home during spring planting of crops. After the harvest he returned to his unit.

Football games were recently discussed. Bret Farve said that if he had a son, he would discourage him from playing.Football is a violent contact sport and serious accidents happen.Several years ago a player from LaSalle High School made a tackle and is now a quadraplegic. The same thing happened to a player from Rutgers. Several years ago, the quarterback from Pendleton County Ky High School brcame a paraplegic. Last year a player from Indianaola  High School in Iowa got a concussion. He returned to the game before he should have done.He had violent headaches  and killed himself. Quaeterback Trickett of WVU quit several years ago. He received too many concussions. I could continue but these problems were enough so that I did something else.
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Mike Murphy on September 6, 2017 10:06 AM
??and yet you plan to attend the VT game 10/21 rather than the mini reunion? By the way Doug Neal and Patty Anderson were taking a talley last eve at the PHS60 monthly dinner, which I attended. They need to get an approrimate count for the Mini for Pat Smith who is providing the food etc. for the reunion. Fred - All would be happy to see you there instead at Blacksburg. On another note my nephew said that the statue near Union in Monroe county has been removed. It was the one that the road made a jog to miss out in a field, but couldn't survive the liberals!!

We certainly have a great bunch of graduates. Some of us are moving a little slower but Myron and Darla look younger and healther each time! 

Keep the faith
Mike
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Fredrick Lucas on September 6, 2017 4:05 PM
Mike, I decided against attending the game at Tech.Why do you say that those who took down statues are liberals. Robert E. Lee, Thomas Jefferson and others who enslaved others for profit should not have statues in public places. Instead they shouls be placed in a museum. Germany and Russia took down statues to Stalin and Hitler.They explolited and murdered others. 
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Mike Murphy on September 7, 2017 12:22 PM
??So you are not now encouraging your classmates to go to the game instead of the mini reunion?

I don't wish you and the libs good luck on tearing down the Jefferson Memorial (you probably didn't even know there was one?) and I guess you want to burn all copies of the Constitution since Jefferson authored?

??Did you know that the Quakers & American Indinians once had slaves in the US, probably not since you get your ques from the liberal internet. Charging at windmills?

Keep the Faith
Mike
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geno on September 7, 2017 1:56 PM
Fred you should be discouraging teens from driving, driving automobiles has injured more folks than any sport, drivers killed mount up to numbers killed in world wars.
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Ched on September 7, 2017 6:10 PM
All the liberal media as  well as  the liberal population  are  slamming our President  for ending  DACA.
DACA   was  a temporary measure  wuiith an expiradiation date. It also was unlawful by most legal opinions.  President Trump is helping  the  Dreamers by  forcing  congress  to codify this into law sot  that in the  future "dreamers" will be  spared  the  anxiety of uncertainty. Regardless of the moral  siginificance,  the law is  clear on  this !!
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Cookie on September 7, 2017 6:33 PM
Today if you live on the Demarva Irma and Jose "trump" Lee and all the rest of the monuments.
 
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Fredrick Lucas on September 9, 2017 7:10 AM
At this time I hope that our classmates and their families who reside in Florida are safe.Carl have you received any information from the Florida group?

MIke the National Cathedral in Washington D.C decided after a year long study to remove the plate glass window of Robert Lee and Stonewall Jackson. 





 
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Fredrick Lucas on September 9, 2017 8:58 AM
The National Cathedral removed the stained glass windows of Thomas Stonewall Jackson  and Robert E. Lee after a year long study.This is a correction Mike

Seriously I am quite concerned  about the safety of our Florida classmates and their family. 

 
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Fredrick Lucas on September 9, 2017 7:21 PM
Last evening when I communicated I had just arrived at the LA Quinta Inn in Columbus Indiana for the Scottish Festival which was held today

DDurrinng breakfast at the Inn, I spoke with several people from Florida.They had evacuated and were returning  to cities in the region where they will stay with relatives until the storm is over aND they can. assess damages.

The ladies did a good job with the caber toss and the pipe bands.One ov the men put a pitch fork into a gunney sack with items weighing 16 lbs.He tossed the sack over a bar 41 feet high. That is a record. I watched border collies round up sheep and ducks

I ate hagis for lunch and visited with friends.








 
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Fredrick Lucas on September 9, 2017 7:21 PM
Last evening when I communicated I had just arrived at the LA Quinta Inn in Columbus Indiana for the Scottish Festival which was held today

DDurrinng breakfast at the Inn, I spoke with several people from Florida.They had evacuated and were returning  to cities in the region where they will stay with relatives until the storm is over aND they can. assess damages.

The ladies did a good job with the caber toss and the pipe bands.One ov the men put a pitch fork into a gunney sack with items weighing 16 lbs.He tossed the sack over a bar 41 feet high. That is a record. I watched border collies round up sheep and ducks

I ate hagis for lunch and visited with friends.








 
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Fredrick Lucas on September 10, 2017 3:14 PM
Geno, I read your thoughts about football. After reading comments by Bret Farve who was a quarterback in the NFL for many years, I took seriously what he said about discouraging a son from playing football. He does have a  daughter.At the Scottish event, I asked a high school student from Louisville if he played sports.He is a member of the swim team.I spoke with a student from Colerain High School in Cincinnati . He is a member of the swim team. He doesn't want to risk serious injury playing football.

Does PHS have a swim team?
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Mike Murphy on September 10, 2017 8:05 PM
??Really enjoying watching football in spite of the negativity from Joe Bfilitz in the peanut gallery.

Keep the faith
Mike
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Fredrick Lucas on September 10, 2017 8:33 PM
Mike, I gave the group my perspective on football.Not only did you not give us your persprctive but you reacted to my perspective in a rather juvenile way. Can you give a cogent perspective?Can you write something without critiquing me. 

If you wrote as you did in Cincinnati you would be referred to a remedial pprogram to help you express yourself in a manner in which you could be understood.

If my friends saw how you wrote, they might conclude that you are a poor hilljack who needs help.

 
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Miss Manners on September 10, 2017 9:29 PM
That isn't nice!
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Mike Murphy on September 11, 2017 9:13 AM
??A must see is Steve Bannon's interview on 60 Minutes last eve. He give a no nonsense perspective of the swamp including the media and people like Fred who try to bring down the President and hate the USA. You could see the contempt in the interviers questions and arguments, but Brannon set him straight. 
Keep the Faith
Mike
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Mike Murphy on September 11, 2017 9:20 AM
??Sad day 9/11/2001 that changed the USA in many ways some good and some bad. Had we focused on killing the Terriorists and not on nation building we would not be in the mess we are in today. In Fact we would be better off if the Iran Iraq war was still going on. Iraq was under a no fly zone when we attacked with the great support of McCain and Clintons a huge mistake!
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Mike Murphy on September 11, 2017 9:34 AM
??Fredie - Your Psycho Analysis of me reminds me of the time that Ohio offered to take all of the EMR kids from West Virginia and did so RAISING the IQ level in both states. 

??By the way I watched 3 games testerday and enjoyed them all without thinking about the civil war and confederate statues which you libs use to manufacture divisiveness to salve your wounds from a loss to those deplorables who cling to their guns and God and do not try to rewrite history. Your fained outrage at racism and shaming football is wearing thin. Perhaps you should put on your protective helmet and eat more Hagis?

Have a good day
Mike
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Fredrick Lucas on September 11, 2017 11:13 AM
Carl have you heard from our classmates who are Florida residents? 
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Fredrick Lucas on September 11, 2017 1:12 PM
Two men were interviewed for television. Onehad Robert E. Lee as an ancestor. The other had Jefferson Davis as an ancestor.Neither one had a problem with communities removing statues.Our black friends don't want reminders of the humiliation of ancestors who were enslaved and who had to endure racial segregation.
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Miss Manners on September 11, 2017 2:07 PM
When the neddle gets stuck on an old 78 album you can solve the problem by unplugging the record player.  
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Ched on September 11, 2017 2:10 PM
Two   ( subjective without data) comments:
1) Football is  for real men. ( safety and head injury protocol is much improved) Its  a great  game and a major part of our  sports  culture.
2) I am also offended by much of  the  stuff going on. So I want  the monuments  replaced  !!!
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Fredrick Lucas on September 12, 2017 8:59 AM
Recently 111 brains from football players. were sent to Boston University for. analysis by a medical team. They found that 110 showed signs of CTE.Frank Gifford and Ton Dorsett were some of the players showing signs of CTE.

THe NFL has agreed to develop a fund
 of 700 million dollars to help retired players with health problems.

There is a man who lives in the apartment building where I live who played football  for Ohio State for two years.He had to stop because his knees were in bad shape. He had knee replacement surgery.
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Ched on September 12, 2017 2:17 PM
No doubt  football is  a contact  sport. and knee injuries are part of  the  game.  HOWEVER, knee replacement  surgery is almost always  due  to arthritis not ACL  tears and other  soft  tissue injuries esperienced in football. Older retired players experience a somewhat higher incidence of CTE due  to the use of older  technology uses in headgear. Football is expected  to be much safer now  due  to major  rules  changes and  headgear  development.
 I think drug overdose, Chicago  residency   and impaired  driving pose a more  significant  risk
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Tracy French on September 12, 2017 9:13 AM
What if the Indians wanted all reminders of the white man removed from American, should we do that?  Or should they do that?

What about other ethnic groups that came after the white man, should those reminders be removed?

Should the Indians be given all their land back?

If we do not stop the removal of the Confederate Monuments our next generations will see other monuments like churches removed from our country.


 
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Mike Murphy on September 12, 2017 12:39 PM
??Watching the news about Jacksonville Fl hurricane rescues brought to mind my first National Office Job Corps Conference there in 1988. A fine looking gentleman who was presenting some ground breaking research on curriculum that day approached me and asked are you Mike Murphy from Princeton and further when did you graduate. It was of course our esteemed renouned classmate Carl Thomason.

??By the way Carl during the years you worked with Job Corps did you ever hear complaints from the 60,000 students enrolled (80% were African American) about Confederate statues? Also When I visited the Cincinatti (Locus for all things intellectial according to Fred) Job Corps Center, I did not hear any complaints about confederate statues. And perhaps you could shed some light on where all the racial anamis is coming from by our great intellectial bretheran in Cincinatti?

Keep the Faith
??Mike   
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geno on September 12, 2017 4:11 PM
Miss Manners unplugging the record player will not fix a broken record.   Mr. fixit
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Miss Manners on September 12, 2017 10:29 PM
No but it will shut it up.
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Carl on September 13, 2017 9:19 AM
Well, shut my mouth!.  [Just kidding.  None of us wants that -- at least not for ourselves.]  I've been a bit out of touch -- nothing serious -- and am reassured by returning home, and to the blog, and finding "the usual suspects" all in fine fettle.  Keep smiling.   ;-)
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Fredrick Lucas on September 13, 2017 6:20 PM
Tracy, I don't forsee removal of statues in the midwestern states. These states did not have troops and leaders who wanted to destroy the union while retaining slavery. There is a movement in Kentucky to remove the statue of Jefferson Davis from the state house in Frankfort. Cincinnati does have an Underground Freedom Railroad Museum. The town of Riply Ohio which is east of Cincinnati on the Ohio River was the first stop on the underground railroad.Slaves would cross the river at night and would stay with Rev Rankin and his family until it was safe to go on to the next stop.Rev Rankin treated the slaves with respect.
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Fredrick Lucas on September 13, 2017 7:18 PM
The statue of Jefferson Davis was built in 1936 and was financed by the United Daughters of the Confederacy.Gov. Bevan opposes the move. The NAACP favors the move.

Davis was a traitor to his country. Rev. Rankin and Harriet Beecher Stowe who wrote Uncle Tom's Cabin were patriots.
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Miss Manners on September 13, 2017 9:28 PM
Will someone unplug the record player.  Its stuck again.
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Fredrick Lucas on September 14, 2017 7:39 AM
Tracy I do not believe that that the original inhabitants of the United States will want their lands to be returned to them. There is a wonderful book called The Trail of Tears that discusses the removal of the Cherokee from Georgia and North Carolina to Oklahoma.A number of them lost their lives as they were forced to walk in the cold weather.

Religious organizations are protected   by the First Amendment of the United States. I am concerned that some of our citizens are concerned that Moslems will try to impose their laws  and customs on the rest of us. That perspective is not correct.Several years ago I went to the Jewish Temple in Roanoke.Someone had broken out windows and painted a swastika on the side of the building.They had an armed guard at the service .Intolerance of the rights of others seems to be a problem in our nation,, 


There is an interesting museum in Bastian Va.It is devoted to the original inhabitants.







 
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Fredrick Lucas on September 14, 2017 9:28 AM
Why does Miss Manners not identify him or herself? Miss Manners could be an extremist. This move is strange.
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Miss Manners on September 14, 2017 5:14 PM
Miss Manners thinks observing obsessive behavior is like listening to a broken record. The same drum beat over and over and over.
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Mike Murphy on September 14, 2017 12:27 PM
??WVU vs Deleware State this Saturday in Morgantown. WVU should blow them out, but who knows? Deleware only has 3 counties at low tide and 1 at high?

??I am intolerant of people who are intolerant! Wait until Shari Law Comes to Cincinatti, Kentucky!!

Mountani Semper Liberi
Mike
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geno on September 14, 2017 1:56 PM
Why oh why is themost intolerant against the intolerant, is that like the more the much? where oh wher can I hide, is the sky still falling or di some one put a rafter up, wait a minute, wouldn't a raftyer be on the river? where am I and what am i doing here and where is here, did you know here is almost there, I heward an insane man in an asylunm hollered whw are we all here, someone said cause we ain't all there.
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Carl on September 14, 2017 5:52 PM
Why Geno, why on earth would you have even been in an asylum in order to hear that?
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Fredrick Lucas on September 14, 2017 9:01 PM
Tracy you raised the question should we return the land to the original people. That would be impractical.There are too many people and businesses in Florida that the land cannot be returned to the Seminole people.If you go online and put into a search engine American Indian Casinos, you can get a list in each state.We can't return New York to the original people.They can't manage Trump Towers. Ed Laufer would be stressed. 
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Miss Manners on September 14, 2017 9:23 PM
Besserwisser
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Carl on September 14, 2017 9:53 PM
Ed Laufer stressed?  Poppycock!!!
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Fredrick Lucas on September 15, 2017 8:28 AM
Tracy yesterday I had lunch with a man who has a summer home in Michigan.From time to time he goes to an Indian casino.He finds  the experience enjoyable. He explained that each year every member of the tribe gets a share of the profits.Last year each member of the tribe received S12,500. The federal and state governments do not regulate the casinos.

West Virginia does not have Indian casinos.


 
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Carl on September 15, 2017 11:09 AM
Fred, last week I was in the Portland (Oregon) Art Museum among a group of impressive, highly successful Stanford Univ. graduates.  I commented on the "metal sculpture of an Indian chief on horseback" when one of them immediately corrected me to "Native American."  [Imagine my embarrassment as a mere Concord College grad.]  I notice that you use "Indian."  Are you made comfortable in Cincinnati [and elsewhere] with such terminology?
 
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Fredrick Lucas on September 15, 2017 11:26 AM
Carl we are native Americans as well. Canada uses First Nation and Australia uses aboriginal people to distinguish the migrants from the original populations.I like the Canadian and Australian approach. 

The listing for casinos was American Indian Casinos


 
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Miss Manners on September 15, 2017 11:43 AM
Miss Manners is surprised the intellectually superior west coast folk would allow a culturally deprived halfwit among their midst.  Congratulations on your bravery.  
1/2 the world is wearing tinfold hats.
Chelsa Manning just lost her "fellowship" at Harvard.  Must be tough loosing your "fellowship" not once but twice.
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Fredrick Lucas on September 15, 2017 11:52 AM
Carl, the official names of two tribes in Michigan are Grand Traverse Band of Ottawa and Chippewa Indians and Keweenaw Bay Indian Community . This name referrs to the Ojibwa.
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Carl on September 15, 2017 12:07 PM
MsMann, those folks, virtually ALL proud, hard-core, unabashed, outspoken progressives, embrace inclusivity -- even Appalachians.  I think of myself as a diversity hire, and believe that I provide a certain je ne sais quoi, uh, make that unique element.  [I could hardly wait to get back home, although the Portland Museum was quite nice, as were nearly all of the Stanford Cardinal (nee Indians -- ironic, ain't it?).]
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Edward Laufer on September 15, 2017 5:40 PM
In Morgantown this weekend to watch WVU football,so surprised to see on the blog that you Fred would say that I would be stressed about something. Prefer ,Fred that you you do try to read my mind about anything and then say what I might or might not be thinking. Actually at the moment feeling very relaxed in the WV hills
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Edward Laufer on September 15, 2017 5:44 PM
So relaxed down here in West Virginia that I left off the word NOT between the words do and try in my last email
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Edward Laufer on September 15, 2017 5:55 PM
By the way,Carl, on the way down to Morgantown stopped at one of your super hang outs, Berkeley Springs. It is one neat town!
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Carl on September 15, 2017 10:40 PM
Edward, many treasured memories of times at our Berkeley Springs house in the woods, including of course the gathering that you helped make happen of our group of PHS60 misfits way back in 2004.  Attending were Jim Fariss, Ray Kidwell, Ed Laufer, Jerry Laufer, Kerby Smith, Rick Swope, Jerry Wizon and partners (plus lovely daughter Katie Fariss).  At age 62 (or younger), we were mere kids.  Wow.
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Fredrick Lucas on September 15, 2017 6:02 PM
Tracy raised the question should all land  be returned to the various tribes. I said that would not be practical in Florida.There are too many  homes and businesses .The Seminole could not handle the situation. If the tribes were given New York City they could not handle Trump Towers and you would be stressed. Tracy comes up with unusual questions.

 I did explain that a number of tribes  are successful casino operators.

 
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Fredrick Lucas on September 15, 2017 6:11 PM
Carl do you plan to contact our Florida classmates. When I was at the Scottish Festival in Columbus  Indiana last week, I spoke with several people at the hotel who had fled Florida to stay in Indiana with relatives until they were able to return to Florida to assess damages.
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Mike Murphy on September 15, 2017 8:48 PM
??Ed- I will watch for you on TV tomorrow. Wish I could be there with you.

Enjoy
Mike
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Fredrick Lucas on September 16, 2017 5:49 AM
The statue of Robert E. Lee built in 1936 was removed from Robert E. Lee park in Dallas Texas.Lee stated that he did not want a statue of himself.
 







 
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Fredrick Lucas on September 16, 2017 5:49 AM
The statue of Robert E. Lee built in 1936 was removed from Robert E. Lee park in Dallas Texas.Lee stated that he did not want a statue of himself.
 







 
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Edward Laufer on September 16, 2017 8:45 AM
Hi Mike, I usually try to catch one game here a year,usually a big one like LSU or a big 12 foe so may come back for another. I do not know if you or any of our classmates have been to Morgantown in recent recent years, but the area has exploded with development,particularly commercially
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Edward Laufer on September 16, 2017 8:59 AM
A follow up. They developed a giant and I mean giant strip mall on top of a mounta in that was reclaimed from strip mining. It has to be the largest in the state The one thing I hate to say that has happened in Morgantown is the traffic is horrible like in Jersey or Westchester County in New York State.My friend says all the tine
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Edward Laufer on September 16, 2017 9:23 AM
One final on Morgantown, they developed in the Wharf area along the river wonderful walking and bike areas. Great city development
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Mike Murphy on September 16, 2017 9:32 AM
??Ed - Haven't been to a game in the new stadium, last game was in the 70's w Syracuse at MorganHole. Be sure to wave to us 60ers!

??Dersowich on TV now asking for working together and refraining from devisive politics by use of Rasim in light of what is happening in St Louis. 

Keep the Faith
??Mike
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Fredrick Lucas on September 16, 2017 10:06 AM
II ssppoke to my neighbor who played football for Ohio State.As I mentioned  his knees were in bad shape and he had to quit.He also said that while those in authority are trying to make the game safer they still have not solved the problem of concussions
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Edward Laufer on September 16, 2017 10:44 AM
Hi M8ke, I often heard in the 60s and the 70's Morgantown referred to with that nickname you mentioned . Many times! From the way things look it is a bit betetr with new housing near Main St.and places like the Wharf area also near Main St.
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Mike Murphy on September 16, 2017 12:41 PM
??The last time I stayed in Morgantown was in the late 90s along the Monongahelia River at a Hotel and conference center run by WVU for a wedding reception, very nice. Much has changed and the proposed road bond for this fall includes new interchanges for I 79 at Star City. I stayed there many times in the summer for the state wide Vocational conferences but didn't attend Ballgames or claasses. Although I got My MA and EdD from WVU I never took a class physicaly at Morgantown. Worked full time and went to night school and qualified for my residency by taking a 6hr seminar and a 3 hr class one semester. Most classes were at Institute (WVstate) and Marshall thru WVU.

??Did you attend WVU?

Go Mountaineers
Mike
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Carl on September 16, 2017 2:59 PM
Fred, I'm the proud possessor of two -- count 'em, 2 -- metal knees.  I never played a down of "real" football [i.e., pads, helmets, tackling] yet couldn't avoid life's normal wear-and-tear on my precious body.  I guess that goes to show that life comes with risks and thtat parts wear out.  Alas.
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geno on September 16, 2017 3:23 PM
Carl I just got caught back up on the blog, I am amazed you did not know I was a visitor at the asylum for a while, I was acquitted when they found out the difference between nonsense and no sense, very close in spelling and in meaning, I have always said if evrey lunatic was locked up, there would be no professors to teach and there would be no one to run the govt. and of course there would be fewer of us on the blog. But any way just between me and you I think we are the only sane ones left, and sometimes I wonder about you. just kidding its that kind of nonsense that got me locked up, A judge once asked me what i thought and I made the mistake of telling him. I thought he was serious, and he also thought I was serious, serious pays poor wages, frolic and laughter doesn't pay well either. Hey how's that for philosiphying.
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Edward Laufer on September 17, 2017 7:17 AM
Hi Mike, I actually did not attend WVU, but have been a fan of theirs since I was a young kid.
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Fredrick Lucas on September 18, 2017 9:06 AM
I plan to attend the gathering on October 21.I would like to encourage those who haven't seen the Native American Museum in Bastian Va. to visit the facility. You can see how the people lived.Most of the people who lived in the area were Shawnee.

Tracy do you have more questions about the Shawnee and other tribes.So much of Bland County is uninhabited because it is quite mountainous. I don't forsee the land being returned to the Shawnee.
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Fredrick Lucas on September 18, 2017 9:45 AM
The name of the village in Bastian is the Wolf Creek Indian Village. Admission is $10.00. There is a village near Dayton Ohio. It is called Sun Watch. There is a pow wow schedulrd each July.There are dancers from tribes from the region

Tracy you have some unusual questions and comments about our tribal friends and neighbors.
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Carl on September 18, 2017 10:00 AM
OK, OK, this is NOT a "new comment," but repeated "Reply" entries cause the text to get "squoze" down to a slender thread -- rather like my remarks.

Geno, thanks for your elucidating asylumistic response, and let me say that anyone who uses the term "frolic" is a friend of mine.  I always liked it when Festus Haggin would say "frolicsome."  And I'll be derned if you ain't downright frolicsome.
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Fredrick Lucas on September 18, 2017 12:12 PM
Peter Flanigan died  last week. The Funeral will be September 19 at the Seaver Funeral Home.The obituary is on the Seaver web site.Peter was the son of Mike and the brother of Elizabeth and Richard who live in Princeton. Richard is a graduate of PHS '59. Mike was a
. custodian for Mercer County Schools. The family were devoted to the Sacred Heart Catholic Church.
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Carl on September 18, 2017 4:37 PM
Just learned from Darla that Harry Covey died on Friday.  His obit is on our "In Memory of . . ." page [see above].
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Ched on September 19, 2017 10:20 AM
I am saddened to learn of Harry's passing. He  was only 74 (seems  too  soon)!! He lived in Sevierville TN. We have  a  cabin nearby and I regret not having  the opportunity to visit with him. I do not know if he was having healthissues or whether this was sudden and unexpected.
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