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Carl on September 24, 2014 12:57 PM
I know; I know.  Everyone reading the Blog has been thinking, I sure miss Carl's poems.  So this one's for y'all

No doubt a nip is in the air
As we approach this autumn.
I've found my woolen underwear.
I sure am glad I bought 'em.


Tracy French on February 28, 2015 10:11 AM
A few years ago while working for the railroad, my boss who was from and played football for Tennessee shared the following letter with me.  It seems like a good day to share it with you.

           65 above zero:
           Floridians turn on the heat.
           People in West Virginia plant gardens.

           60 above zero:
           Californians shiver uncontrollably.
           People in West Virginia sunbathe.
  50 above zero:
           Italian & English cars won't start.
           People in West Virginia drive with the windows down..

           40 above zero:
           Georgians don coats, thermal underwear, gloves, wool hats.
           People in West Virginia throw on a flannel shirt.

           35 above zero:
           New York landlords finally turn up the heat.
           People in West Virginia have the last cookout before it gets cold.
         20 above zero:
           People in Miami all die.
           West Virginians close the windows.
           Californians fly away to Mexico .
           People in West Virginia get out their winter coats.
10 below zero:
           Hollywood disintegrates.
           The Girl Scouts in West Virginia are selling cookies door to door.
20 below zero:
           Washington DC runs out of hot air.
           People in West Virginia let the dogs sleep indoors.
30 below zero:
           Santa Claus abandons the North Pole.
           West Virginians get upset because they can't start the Snowmobile.
 40 below zero:
           ALL atomic motion stops.
           People in West Virginia start saying...'Cold enough fer ya?'
50 below zero:
           HELL freezes over..
           Mountaineers Win the National Championship!!!


Carl on April 13, 2015 12:32 PM
Murph, Cookie, and all others,
   All joking aside, I do get Chris-Mathews-type thrills, enduring since my youth.  These days they're sparked by music, and I tingle from heart to head-top.  I must again thank Etta James who, while I just now listened to "At Last," made me feel the magic again.  Dear friends, may each of you continue to feel the magic.     
Darla on April 14, 2015 8:23 AM
I know what you mean "AT LAST".

Carl on April 22, 2015 12:52 PM
A sports fan himself -- especially baseball and the Chicago Cubs -- George Will cut to the heart of things, as he usually does, with the following: "Football combines the two worst things about America.  It is violence punctuated by committee meetings."  All the same, I do love it

Carl on April 28, 2015 1:15 PM
    REUNION  2015
Help spread the word.  The originally announced 2015 reunion dates were in August, but by popular demand for a foliage season weekend, they were changed to Oct. 2-3, and announced as such.  However, the word seems not to have reached everyone.  Therefore, the Oct. dates were included in the 2014 mini-reunion postcard, and again on last week's postcard.  Please help us clarify with all classmates that the dates are Oct. 2-3 to ensure max. attendance.  Thanks.

Carl on May 21, 2015 11:06 AM
Just became aware of a YouTube recording of "The Green Rolling Hills of West Virginia" by the wonderful Emmylou Harris and Mary Black.  You just might like it:

Carl on June 20, 2015 3:24 PM
HAPPY BIRTHDAY West Virginia!!!
    152 years old today. 

Montani Semper Liberi

Carl on July 4, 2015 12:37 PM
And I too say "Happy American Independence Day to one and all."
   Murph, Alexis -- pardon my informality; I just like saying "Alexis" -- got it exactly right.  I believe that if there's one thing that characterizes American Democrats, Republicans and Independents, it's their focus on repairing America's faults, despite their often opposing views on what exactly those faults are, and differing so dramatically on what the proper "fix" is.  And the greatest quality of our great country may well be the ensurance that we can disagree, and debate both deliberately and heatedly -- as the Founders did -- without fear of reprisal by the government.  [OK, maybe an occasional exception for the IRS.] 
   And since you've introduced a quote from a Frenchman, I'll join in by citing Voltaire: "I may not agree with what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it."  Powerful words from my 2nd favorite French philosopher.  [Bardot, naturally, heads my list.]

Edward Laufer on July 22, 2015 10:15 PM
Hi All - I am always at least 4 or 5 months behind in reading the BLOG but always enjoy the connection of this BLOG to my classmates. Perhaps somebody might be able to help me in knowing whether our Phys Ed teacher Ward Webb is still around.  I tried for a number of years through the Board of Ed to locate him, but to no avail, and finally gave up a number of years ago. Last week I was driving up I-77 from VA and took a detour to see Boyscout Camp Roland.  Ward Webb suddenly came to mind again as for several years he helped out our Troup 66.

The real reason I tried to find him is because I believe in 1958 at one of our football games they gave Jimmy Wathall a new PHS jacket. A number of the phys ed classes could select a representative to be on the field for the presentation. There were a number of nominated people in my phys ed class who became stars of the PHS60 class and there was a fellow who maybe stayed another year who was very very quiet.  After the nominees left the room, Ward Webb made a short speech saying that the well known nominees would get many accolades in the coming years but the for the quiet kid, this would be by far the biggest thing would ever happen to him at PHS.  In the 1958 year book there is a picture of the presentation that I believe shows the starry-eyed classmate.  Only many, many years later did I realize what a special thing Ward Webb had done for that particular quiet classmate.  Sure would like to know if he is still around and if he can be reached.  I owe him and his family a letter.  Thanks for any help.

Carl on July 28, 2015 2:57 PM
And here's a timely one:
    Husband goes with his wife to her high school reunion.  After meeting several of her friends and former school mates, they are sitting at a table where he is yawning and overly bored.
    The band cranks up and people are beginning to dance.  There's a guy on the dance floor break dancing, moonwalking, back flips, buying drinks for people, the works.
    Wife turns to her husband and said, “See that guy? 25 years ago he proposed to me and I turned him down.
    Husband said: "Looks like he's still celebrating!!!
Mike Murphy on July 28, 2015 4:50 PM
Fred - In my old age I am becoming more intolerant of intolerance. For the record I did not see in any way that Carl and Ched were excoriating anyone and in fact were sincerly disagreeing with unfounded pontifications. Calling BS gutter language is a real stretch. Sorry you will miss the comoradary of our most congenial and exalted PHS60 classmates at the reunion. I still think you should attend! Please reconsider!

Keep the Faith
Fredrick Lucas on July 28, 2015 8:34 PM
Mike, I am not going to discuss anything related to any topic but jokes and mirth. I wanted to buy my wife a car but she wanted a fur coat so we compromised. She bought the fur coat and we keep it in the garage.

You know Clara I sometimes wonder if my husband has grown tired of me".Why do you say that Marie?"Well he hasn't been home in seven years.                   The age of some women is like the milage meter on a used car.You know its been set back but you don't know how far.  Fred

Carl on July 28, 2015 8:42 PM
Fred, do you have any of those vintage traveling salesman jokes?
Cookie on July 28, 2015 11:27 PM
As an elderly woman who is " rapidly circling the drain" and regularly keeps her dresser drawers cleared out in case she dies during the night, I don't find favor with your mysogonistic rants.  Nags Head was a lot of fun until grandpa across the street "circled the drain" this afternoon and it took the coroner 4 hours to show up. See!  I didn't say B.S. one time!!!  I just sat on the balcony, drank my Mojoito and waited for Dare County's finest to do his duty.   I ....... You not!  See!  I'm trying!  I really am!  
Mike Murphy on July 29, 2015 10:27 AM
Old Spot can dish it out but can't take it.

Tracy - any more good news? Visited my Brother Mason Saturday & I gave my 6mm full barell Remington to my Nephew Sam. If you have any Groundhogs that need dispatched call him.

Although I think my Jokes are funny, they are to crude and non PC for our gentle listeners?

Keep the faith


Carl on July 29, 2015 10:40 AM
    Ahhhhh.  Fred, just look what you've gone and done.  You've sparked a kinder, gentler PHS60 blog.  Why, I almost feel transported back to 1967 -- remember the "Summer of Love"?
   And what to my wondering ears should appear, but the voice of Jesse Colin Young: "C'mon people now, smile on your brother, everybody get together, try to love one another right now."
   Thanks Fredo.
pete Stephenson on July 29, 2015 12:18 PM
Pete here,Alright ladies and gentlemen lets play fair and don't piss anyone off.Could you guys use words that some of us un-educated people can understand.I can't keep going to the dictionary to verify what is said on the blog.Sure would like to see (ALL) at the reunion.To quote Carl(Smile on your brother,and everyone get together)Faith,Hope and Love to all.

Carol on July 31, 2015 6:21 AM
The roof was raised last night!  I went with friends to Laura Story Concert at the First Baptist.  She is Christian composer and singer who grew up here.  

I recently read that if one flies, beginning in 2016, that a National ID or passport is required.  Well, back when Mark Sanford was governor, SC said "no" to the National  ID.  Of course, we said "no" to other things that have been pushed down our throats.  Do we still have a Tenth Amendment?  Anyhow, our passports expired and I don't see renewing them and we have flight miles.  

I went to to donate blood Tuesday evening.  After giving them a list if meds that I take and telling them how old I am, they still wanted my blood.  A friend is at Duke and this was for him.  Anyhow, a young man came in and we started chatting.  He was nice looking, except his body was covered in tattoos.  His ear lobes had the big holes.  He was polite and I thought he was near our youngest son's age.  Yes, indeed they were born the same year.  However, they graduated from different high schools.  He said he works in construction and is a tattoo artist.  He is a nice guy who gave blood to someone he didn't even know.
Becky Novarro on July 31, 2015 9:28 AM
Oh Carol, my passport has expired also.  I think it would be a lot easier to renew if we didn't have to take another picture!!!  They say don't smile and good grief, if I don't smile I look like Maxine.
Carl on July 31, 2015 11:09 AM
Please remember that Maxine has her unique, special kind of beauty . . . and it's ageless.
Mike Murphy on August 1, 2015 1:07 PM
Love Maxine, although she is prone to use "GUTTER" Language?

Have the times for the Reunion been set for Oct 2, 3? I looked over the material I received from Carl and didn't see Them?  Are we getting a special rate at Pipestem? and the reservation # would be helpful. 

Keep the Faith
Becky Novarro on August 1, 2015 4:30 PM
Oh Mike, You have forgotten you checked out of Pipestem and the Reunion.
There are cabins across the road from the park.  Brrandons have several options..
Mike Murphy on August 1, 2015 9:48 PM
Becky - I am puzzeled? Please Clarify.

See you at the stem?
Becky Novarro on August 2, 2015 2:24 PM
I thought you checked out of your room at Pipestem for some reason.  I was just telling you there were other places, if that was the case.  I enjoy seeing you and your wife and hope we all make it to October.
Mike Murphy on August 2, 2015 5:31 PM
Becky - Thanks for the info. You are right about us checking out on Saturday last Reunion. Someone had their TV  on all night and the noise was apparently traveling throuh the pipes or something. We had the front desk investigate. They heard the noise but was not able to locate the source. Aretta and I felt so bad the next morning we decided to leave. 

I understand that many of the rooms at Pipestem have been renovated and we would like to stay there for ovious reasons ie drinking and driving etc., so we will probably bring some ear plugs just in case. By the way our leaving had nothing to do with the way the reunion was handled or any other classmate. As always I have nothing but praise for those planning and holding the Reunion. to name a few- Carl Thomason, Doug Neal, Myron Anderson, Patty Baker Anderson, Darla Winfrey Pitzer, Barbara Calfee Fields, Pat Smith, Tom Dillon, James McKenzie and others. Also I am very pleased that the committee listen to suggestions and changed the dates from August to October, All in All a wonderful bunch of classmates including our Queen!

Keep the Faith
Thomas Dillon on August 3, 2015 8:33 AM

Murph, Love you Man, and thanks for including me in such a prestigious group. However, as I think I have shared with you before -- I have had no role in the planning and holding of the Reunions for the past fifty years other than saying a few words of welcome. Kay and I drive in, thoroughly enjoy the fellowship, food, and watching some of our more spry classmates on the dance floor, and then drive away for another five years. The local committee and Carl , Becky, and Terry are the work horses.
A fly on the wall reported that one of our classmates  hosted an all night party at Pipestem five years ago on Friday night that was out of control. T.V.'s were blaring. a band with drums was playing, and police were called several times.


Mike Murphy on August 4, 2015 10:29 AM
More power plants closing! More Miners losing jobs! More Manufacturing going overseas! Higher energy costs! Support Businesses closing! BHO,EPA and the Libs are determined to ruin this country especially WV, over political ambitions.

Internationally, Nationaly and Localy things are in a mess. Hopefully folks will see the light and turn this Juggernaut around!

Tracy - any good news?

Keep the faith

Becky Novarro on August 4, 2015 2:00 PM
Tom, I also just come to the reunions and have a wonderful time. I suppose I am such a busybody that people think I have participated in the preparations of the best parties ever. We are so fortunate to have wonderful classmates who do a lot of work and don't say a word. Someone decorates the tables, makes the name tags besides all the planning and correspondence that it takes to make our reunions such a success. We are lucky to just be invited! Right???
Tom Dillon on August 4, 2015 5:38 PM
Florida State starts its fall football practice tomorrow -- still optomistic that Jimbo will send a jet up here to pick me up. Gee, it's been a long, lean period since last season. Colts reported to camp on Sunday.
Mike Murphy on August 4, 2015 8:32 PM
Are you ready for some football!! I say yesss! Saints and Patriots are at Greenbriar for practice.

Jim Justice and Bill Cole running for Governor, it will be hard for me to choose. What do you guys & Gals think?

Saw on tv news tonight that Princeton got a new VA Clinic. That is great where is it located?

Keep the Faith
Tom Dillon on August 5, 2015 7:29 AM
Never could spell very well. Optomistic? Did go and see my eye Doc last week, so there must have been some cross over. May have told you this story before -- I think it was in 7th grade English class. We had 10 new vocabulary words to learn each week and would be tested on the spelling each Friday. I studied and studied and typically got 7 to 8 correct. Moke Crawford never studied and most often got 100%.
Moke once asked me if he could see a theme paper we were to write as he had no idea how to begin. We both got F's as he copied my paper word for word and turned it in. Sure would like to See Hugh Crawford this Reunion. It has been years.
How about other stories of/about classmates?

Carl on August 5, 2015 11:45 AM
Tom, I have the following address & TN for Moke:

Ernest Hugh Crawford
4766 Leyden Way
Ellicott City, MD 21042

I wrote him in 2010 to encourage him to come to the reunion, and to send a bio.  I got no response.  Perhaps he'd react favorably if contacted by closer friends.

Fredrick Lucas on August 5, 2015 9:15 PM
This past weekend I spent time downloading and trying to understand   Windows 10 which was time consuming but was fun. For those who are history buffs, the first stop light was installed today in 1914 in Cleveland Ohio. Finally WVU was ranked seventh in the country for party schools. The University of Illinois is the number one party school in the nation.
Cookie on August 5, 2015 9:55 PM
Dearest Fredo
And now for the rest of the story.....
The inventor of the STOP LIGHT was an African American named Garrett Morgan.  In the 1990s, to honor his contributon, U.S. Secretary of Transportation Slater accepted my proposal to establish the Garrett Morgan Project that provided our minority high school students interested in science and technology with Department of Transportation high school internships.  The program further included post secondary opportunities and potential for government employment. Many agencies that were under DOT at that time have since been realigned.  However, the students were placed with the U.S Coast Guard, FAA, Highway Administration, etc.  I could go on and on as the proposal was quite involved but you get the idea.  
I don't know which part of my intelligence or lack thereof was in play back then but you will be happy to know the proposal did not contain one damn bad word.  
All Classmates 1960 on August 6, 2015 7:35 AM
You are, have always been, and will continue to be a genuis in our estimation. And we don't just mean comic genuis.
Cookie on August 6, 2015 7:46 AM
Hold On!  I gotta get my boots real quick like. 

Carl on August 6, 2015 10:19 AM
Greetings dear classmates from the west bank of the Passagassawakeag River.  We've been back in Belfast, Maine for nearly 3 weeks and it couldn't be nicer -- lovely weather in a lovely setting among lovely people (even our fellow tourists).  Must leave on Sat. to return to the swelter that is August in Fredericksburg, but life is good.

We have several August birthdays approaching:
   Adell Modad Pettrey - August 14
   Tracy French - August 17
   Brenda McDonel Persin - August 20
   Becky Arney Novarro - August 23
Terry St. Clair - August 28

Hope they're all happy ones.

A big apology for not alerting you to the Aug. 3 birthday of Scott Reid.  Scott, best wishes to you.
Mike Murphy on August 7, 2015 1:06 PM
The GOP debates were interesting - I liked Jindal and Fiorena in first and Carson, Walker and Rubio in the second. Hillary and Sharpton continue to say Republicans hate Women and Blacks. Hill is under investigation by the FBI for possible criminal acts with her server. I wounder if Bill knows her server?

Fred - My son, an IT manager, advised me to wait until they get the glitches out of Windows 10 before installing it.

Greatest quote of debates - Huckabee - Militarys purpose is to kill of break things.

Keep the faith
Mike on August 7, 2015 1:09 PM
Correction - Kill or Break
Fredrick Lucas on August 7, 2015 2:49 PM
Hello Mike, I've been operating windows 10 since Monday. So far I can handle it. If problems arise, I will go to the Geek Squad who advised me to go ahead with the download. Fred

Tracy French on August 9, 2015 7:53 PM
I have been out of contact for a couple weeks and it took a while to catch up.

Mike:  I have lots of good news!  I brought Carol home last Thursday and she is able to walk some with a walker.  Her right ankel is still paralized but she had some botox treatments in the muscles that control the ankel and that allowed the heel of her foot to mover closer to the floor.  It is now about 3 inches off the floor but will occassionally go flat on the floor when walking.  More botox in 3 months will be the next move and if that doesn't do it then the tendon will be cut.  I was under the impression that the botox treatments would make her look 25 years younger but it didn't work.  I'm wondering now if they put the botox in the right place.

The new VA Medical center in Princeton is located in the old Roller Florist building that is adjacent to Seaver Funeral home.

Fred:  Would love to see you at the reunion.

To all my friends from PHS 60 and other classes:  Thanks for all your prayers and concerns.  Things look much better for us today than they did 4 years ago when all these  medical problems with Carol started.  We have been on prayer list all over the country and it is indeed a blessing to know that so many people care.  Thank you!
Cookie on August 9, 2015 10:26 PM
Dear Tracy
This is indeed very good news and evidence that prayer does work I sincerely believe.  My very best to you and Carol and may she continue to improve.
About the botox........I'll check with some of my lady friends.  They know all about that stuff.  
Tom Dillon on August 10, 2015 8:42 AM
Tracy, great news about Carol. Yes,you have had several classmates who have been praying for you including one Moke Crawford and his wife. Moke said that he has stayed in touch over the years to some extent with you, Geehole, and Darla(who always is after him to come to the Reunions).  The Crawford's hope to see us in October for the 1st time since the 15th, but their adult son had to have major surgery and will have weeks/months of rehab and treatments. Their visiting us will be contingent on how their son progresses. Moke asked for prayers as he and Linda are Christ followers.
Moke has been out of the loop with regard to our class, so I alerted him to this web site -- be careful what you say about him, Cookie, no dirty words. We had a great conversation walking down memory lane from the 7th grade basketball games, Bob Bishop, and Chick Dalton, Curly, Blake Calfee, Milford Cordell coeds (remember Jane Hanger?), etc.
Moke also reiterated what I have quoted before about "never having friends again in life like the ones he had when he was growing up". He said that he thinks of us every day.
Enough for now, you have his phone # -- Yearout, Farley, Becky.

Mike Murphy on August 10, 2015 12:08 PM
Tracy - Great to hear your good news keep it coming. I think Botox may be like suppositories for all the good they do I might as well have stuck them up my ---!

Tom - you ask about school memories. Mrs Shumate's English class - Like a lot of poor Teachers she had us sitting in a circle and chosen ones (not me) were reading Prose or Poetry, still don't know the difference, and I said disgustedly under my breath, I thought, Dog S---! just at the time everything went quiet. Billy King was sitting next to me and he burst out laughing. Shu thought it was him and sent him to the office. Billy and I would beat each other silly but would never tell on the other. I miss him, RIP Charles Ross King!! 

We are being blasted by ROBO calls, Communications Master Carl is there any way we can cripple them?

Keep the Faith
Carl on August 10, 2015 4:53 PM
Yes Murph, crippling -- oops, I think that's a PC-forbidden term -- robo calls is not too difficult, at least to a significant degree.  Simply move to another state as I did last year.  Get a new TN and be extra cautious about giving it out.  I get about 5% of such calls as I used to.  I'm sure that it won't last, but it's mighty damned good while it does.  And it helps one to Keep the Faith.
Cookie on August 10, 2015 5:28 PM
The last two posts contained questionable language.  Did the rules change while I was in Nags Head.  If so I need to catch up because I watched the debates and I have much to say.  
Mike Murphy on August 10, 2015 8:03 PM
Cookie - everything was sanitized for PC consumption?

Seriously let er rip!

The PC Police
Carl on August 10, 2015 9:06 PM
Cookie, it's sometimes confusing as to what the Blog "rules" are, so I just rely on what someone posted over 5 years ago when it all started:
Come on in; the water's fine.
Say whatever's on your mind.
Share a thought, a memory
Or just let whimsy set you free.

Delores on August 10, 2015 11:52 PM
Cookie said to let Carl know she appreciated his offer but would try VERY hard to hold her tongue.  I told her that was probably a good idea since as it stood now she was going to have to put a paper bag over her head any way if she planned to attend the reunion.
Tom Dillon on August 11, 2015 8:11 AM
Cookie shall attend the Reunion... That is a Presidential mandate.
I recently memorized the following bible verse -- Proverbs 12:18 "Reckless words pierce like a sword, but the tongue of the wise (and Cookie is wise) brings healing".
Murph, Crawford and I talked about Billy the other night. Moke (his wife calls him Ernst as she did not know him in Princeton) said he thought King was hitch hiking or drivng across country to see a girl when he had the accident.
Darla on August 11, 2015 8:15 AM
Myron asked me at the last get-together if I thought we would have another reunion. I said yes. But now I wonder because we will all be pushing 80. I really hope that everyone will make the effort to attend this reunion. I hope we will have more, but we never know what might happen. PLEASE BE AT THE REUNION!!!
Carl on August 11, 2015 12:11 PM
Darla, please remember that 80 is the new 60 [whatever that means], so I can't imagine that we won't have a 2020 reunion [where we'll reflect again with -- sorry -- 2020 hindsight].

But your point is the essential one:
COME ONE, COME ALL to the 2015 reunion!  Featuring the first appearance in 40 years of Moke Crawford.  [I call him Mokey, earnestly].  It promises to be a good one; brilliant WV foliage and all.

And EVERYONE, reunion attendees or not, please provide a biographical profile by AUGUST 31 for our 2015 Reunion Book. 
A recent photo will also be greatly appreciated. 
See you at Pipestem Oct. 2-3.

Ched on August 11, 2015 5:38 PM
Tracy so glad carol is doing better. Prayers answered

Ched on August 11, 2015 8:14 PM
I am so glad that Moke will be joining us. Ill give him a call soon. It's been too long!!!!
also I hope he will join the Blog. 
Tom Dillon on August 12, 2015 10:18 AM
Remember that Mokey hopes to come to the Reunion depending on how his son's health is late September -- pray hard.
Fredrick Lucas on August 12, 2015 11:00 AM
Recently, I discussed chronic genetic problems. At this time, couples in my area, couples can go to the University of Cincinnati Medical Center  and receive genetic testing . If the results are positive, couples will often refrain from  having children.

Regarding Tracy and his prayer to Jesus, there are those of us who don't believe that Jesus is a savior. In my area where there are meetings with several religious perspectives, Jesus isn't mentioned. I cited the Hamilton County Teachers Association and the Elks Club. Tracy I'm disappointed in your stubborn behavior. Fred
Delores on August 12, 2015 11:47 AM
She is not gonna' do it!
Carl on August 12, 2015 12:52 PM
Delores, I am disppointed in your self-restraint.   ;-)
Delores on August 12, 2015 1:23 PM
Trust me, she is foaming at the mouth.  
Thomas Dillon on August 12, 2015 2:11 PM
Fred, you crossed the line once when you questioned the intelligence of one of our classmates earlier and we let you get by with that. Now you have characterized the strong faith of another classmate as being stubborn. Over the years, you have posted numerous blog entries expounding a philosophy or position, giving us information or ballgame scores that we all had read about, but never were you labeled, ridiculed for your thoughts, or your person attacked. You don't know how to win friends and influence people. A personal apology from you to Cookie, Tracy and Carol, and all your classmates would be appropriate.

Cut the Crap or get off the blog as you have threatened/promised so many times
Delores on August 12, 2015 4:18 PM
Aren't Progressives all about debate, inclusion and diversity?  I suppose that only applies so long as they aren't challenged.    An attack on Christianty  --  isn't that what ISIS does when they behead Christians?   Likewise, I am reminded of Germany 1940 and their efforts to cleanse a large portion of the European population.  I am acutely aware of the organized efforts to eradicate Christianty but I did not expect it to come from Ohio.  Without a reference to Jesus Christ--I don't believe you have Christianity. 
An apology to me is not necessary.  However I find it incomprehensible that colorful language made in jest and always directed at the author (self) is offensive but challenging and ridiculing one's faith is not.`
Mike Murphy on August 12, 2015 7:59 PM
Bless His Little Heart?

Keep the Faith whatever that may be.

God Bless
Fredrick Lucas on August 12, 2015 8:30 PM
Tom I have no plans to apologize to anyone in our class.I have great faith as well but not in Jesus as a Savior or a God. If you and your Christian friends want to promote Jesus as God incarnate that is your business. I find no evidence tha such a thing ever took place. Jesus is a man only. Fred
Carl on August 12, 2015 11:10 PM
Fred, I have absolute respect for your religious views. 
Can you not show the same respect for those with different views?
Fredrick Lucas on August 13, 2015 4:15 AM
Carl, In Cincinnati, most groups who have people with a variety of religious perspectives will do as the Elks Club and have a non denominational prayer. Tracy doesn't buy this idea. He actually tried to convert me to his religious perspective. He apparently doesn't think that the teachings of Reform Judaism are valid. He seems to think that his perspective is the only valid perspective.

I took .classes at Hebrew Union College and participated in Temple activities for a year before I became Jewish. I don't owe any Christian an apology because I did not try to suggest conversion to anyone unlike our classmate Tracy who tried to get me to buy his perspective.

Carl, I don't know what else to say.Fred
Carl on August 13, 2015 10:39 AM
Sometimes, saying less is better. 
And often, saying nothing is best of all.
Fredrick Lucas on August 13, 2015 6:54 PM
Tom one of the reasons I didn't apologize to conservative Christians including yourself is that I don't know anything about the belief systems of conservative protestant bodies.Ican tell you about belief systems of Greek Orthodox and Roman Catholic Churches but you have not defined your belief system and neither has Tracy. Nor have I for that matter. No apology necessary.

I laughed when Mike said that I pontificated when I made remarks about Planned Parenthood. Does he think that I am the new Pontiff? Have a nice day Tom and Tracy.
Ched on August 13, 2015 12:00 PM
Thanks Tom  VERY well put!!!!!

Mike Murphy on August 13, 2015 1:04 PM
Hopefully the NFL will come to their senses and get back to playing football. Solution - Give Brady 2 game suspension ( although I see no evidence for any) and play ball.

Carl on August 13, 2015 1:29 PM
   Murph, along that line, I'm praying that the Washington Professional Football Team [aka the Redskins -- don't say that too loud] will also get back to playing football this year -- and ending a decade in the doldrums.
   And yes, based on the "evidence" as we know it, I suggest that Brady be given a zero game suspension and Goodell a permanent one.        MAGFAY
Mike Murphy on August 13, 2015 8:31 PM
Pete- Just watched the Water Diviner about the war in Turkey 1914. One of the Minor characters is said to later become the Ata Turk. Russel Crow is star and as always does well. I remember the old Turkish lookout towers on west of Saudi Arabia. The Turks had them within eyesight for defense. As I have mentioned before the Veil came about to keep the Turks from stealing their women.

Keep the Faith

Ched on August 16, 2015 2:59 PM
I had a nice long  "telephone visit" with "Moke" Crawford yesterday. He sounds good and is looking forward to seeing everyone but his attendance to the reunion is contingent on the medical situation with his son.  Please include Mokes  son (Steve I believe) in your prayers.   

Carl on August 17, 2015 10:21 AM
Happy Birthday Tracy
from your comrade in arms

Tracy French on August 17, 2015 8:30 PM
Thanks Carl.  Seems like I just had one but it is August 17th.
Mike Murphy on August 18, 2015 12:28 PM
Tracy - Happy Birthday - Scary to think that you and Carl were all that stood between us and Communist Domination!
How's the Family?

Keep the Faith
Carl on August 18, 2015 1:02 PM
Murph, you shoulda seen Tracy & me at age 21: lean, mean fighting machines.
Fredrick Lucas on August 18, 2015 5:51 PM
Mike I was interested in your comment that Tracy and Carl stood between us and Communist Domination. You need to clarify your remarks. Who is a communist and who wants to dominate? What does this person want to dominate?

By the way, the Cincinnati Reds want to dominate the National League but these Reds are in next to last place in their division. In 1942 the Cardinals won the series. They just might win it again.

Mike as a former teacher I need to say clarify. Fred

Mike Murphy on August 18, 2015 7:13 PM
Fred - It was a joke. We fought the Veit Nam "War" (supression) to twhart (always wanted to use that word & it is a joke also) Communist agression. Did you not study that at WVU? Turns out is was really Socialism ie USSR.

Thanks to our VETs like Tracy, Pete and Carl we are still able to fight " Democratic Socialism"! Hillary probably has the definition on her server. Anyway life is to short to be taken so seriously, right Cookie?
Keep the Faith
Delores on August 18, 2015 8:18 PM
Cookie is flat of her back following surgery-the result of NOT taking life seriously.  She was reading a book today that set her off in a rant.  Onassis as in Jackie-O was quoted as looking into her over-sized sunglasses and telling her once that "Women are like the 20 they are like Africa - wild and untamed.  At 30 they are like India, beautiful and mysterious.  At 40 they were like America, full of themselves.  At 50 they were like Europe - worn out.  At 60 they were like Siberia--every one knows where it but no one wants to go there."  Her comment to Onassis was, "yes and you were the ugliest man who ever lived.  I'm 73 and you're dead."  
Delores on August 18, 2015 8:33 PM
P.S.  Don't under estimate old women, especially those high on pain killers.  
Carl on August 18, 2015 9:17 PM
Delores, I never hear Jackie or Ari Onassis mentioned that I'm not reminded of one of my all-time favorite gags, courtesy of the late, great Joan Rivers.  This was soon after Jackie announced that she was to marry Onassis, whom no one confused "cosmetically" with JFK.  Appearing on the Johnny Carson show (I think), Rivers expressed faux outrage with the following (paraphrased):  [WARNING: a crude, vulgar joke]
   "Are you kidding?  She's going to marry Aristotle Onassis?  This, one of the most beautiful and glamorous women in the world?  Have you looked at him?  Have you?  You know, if you came home and found him floating in the pool, you'd discipline the dog!"
Delores on August 18, 2015 10:36 PM
She requests you seriously stop Carl.  Says it really hurts when she has these belly laughs and she is trying to stay off the painkillers with the reunion coming up and all.  

Carl on August 19, 2015 11:05 PM
I'm very sad to inform you that Trevor Johnston, Emma's husband, died last night.  I have no other details. 
R.I.P. Trevor.  Emma, my sincerest condolences to you.  Take care; stay well.
Cookie on August 20, 2015 1:12 AM
My condolences to dear Emma.  May God watch over you and your family in the days and weeks ahead.  
Tom on August 20, 2015 7:33 AM
Emma, thinking of you and your family. You will be in my prayers.
Ched on August 20, 2015 9:56 AM
I am so sorry for  your loss.  You and  your  family are in my prayers.

Thomas Dillon on August 21, 2015 7:24 PM
Per my calendar, looks like 6 weeks and 41 sleeps. How am I going to get in great physical shape and lose 50 plus pounds by then?
Carl on August 22, 2015 11:36 AM
Tom, I believe Confucius (or somebody -- may have been Woody Allen; I often confuse the two) said something like, "The journey of a thousand pounds (or something like that; it coulda been a hundred shillings) begins with a single donut, uneaten.  I've never tried it, of course, but it sounds reasonable.  Hope this is helpful.
Fredrick Lucas on August 23, 2015 7:42 AM
I noticed that a number of you sent condolences to Emma on this site. Trevor's funeral is being handled by Seaver Funeral Services. I sent a message on the guestbook page. Cookie did that as well.

Not everyone checks this site. Fred
Mike Murphy on August 23, 2015 9:43 PM
Met my Sister and her two daughters at Pipestem this Saturday for lunch. They and some other guests said that the food and service was not so good at the Main Lodge and was poor at the snack bar. Those attending the Reunion may want to have Friday dinner elsewhere. As I understand from the planning session I attended 2 months past. Friday night will have Horderves and drinks including coffee - cookies  and a cash bar with canned music which will be controlled, so that we can hear and talk. Although there will be plenty to snack on it is not meant to be dinner, so it would probably be good to eat dinner prior to attending. Someone from the committee please correct me if I am wrong. The Lodge looked clean and as usual the view was fantastic. 
Look forward to seeing you there Oct 2-3! By the way gas was 2.29 at speedway 40 cents less than greater Ripley.

Keep the Faith
FredrickThis afternoon, I Lucas on August 27, 2015 7:14 PM
This afternoon, I read a pastoral letter from the Archbishop of Cincinnati concerning abortion. He asked the members to contact their members of Congress to withdraw funds from Planned Parenthood. He would loke yo do away with all abortions.

My view Carl is that abortion is a health question that needs to be between the woman and her doctor. Other physicians with whom I have spoken agree with this position. Don't forget that the Archbishop does not have an MD. Fred
Carl on August 27, 2015 9:26 PM
Fred, you have expressed your view on abortion numerous times and stated the sole reason for it [i.e., doctor-patient exclusivity].  About half of America seem to share your view, according to recent polls.  On the other hand, an equal percentage of Americans appear to hold the opposite view, and their support is based on at least as equally valid, and possibly less simplistic, view.  Your persitance in re-stating your view is interesting, but not persuasive.  I suggest that we give this topic a rest.
Ched on August 28, 2015 12:27 PM
Amen to that  Carl !!!

Ched on August 28, 2015 12:42 PM
Som of yo may remember my cousin Charles Gowen. He moved away from Princeton  after  Mercer  school.  I just got  word  that he passed  away.  He was in a  hospital in Richmond VA but his  residence and services  will be in Roanoke Rapids NC.  Charles lived for many years with my Grandmother next  door  to our place on the Old Blfd Road.
 RIP  Charles

Cookie on August 28, 2015 3:12 PM
I remember Charles well from our glory days on the Old Road.  He was in my class at Mercer.  My condolences to your family.  

Carl on August 29, 2015 11:21 AM
Terry St. Clair, I hope you had a happy birthday yesterday.

Speaking of such, here are the Sept. b'days of which I'm aware:

Mike Murphy - September 9
Sam Goodall - September 28
Carl Thomason - September 28
Linda Phlegar Mills - September 30

Linda, I don't quite know what to make of the company that you keep -- birthday wise.

Mike Murphy on September 1, 2015 12:27 PM
Carol - It appears that WVIT will be moved to Beckley in the next two years, according to local news. This will probably devistate Montgomery but will be a boost for Beckley. Eions ago there was a chance to move WVIT to Charleston into then Morris Harvey. Hindsight is 20 20? Hopefully the Engineering programs will remain high quality.

Secretary = "Keeper of the Secrets"
It is inconceviable that anyone who was Secretary of State would not know that the majority of their Emails would be sensitive!! If it were you or I, we would be under the jail, just ask Petraious.

Liar Liar Pants Suit on Fire?

Keep the Faith
Carl on September 1, 2015 2:05 PM
Murph, I notice that you have another birthday approaching. 
Are you becoming a bit crotchety in your golden years?
Carol on September 1, 2015 3:32 PM
Hey, I am glad I checked the blog.  Thanks, Mike, for the info about Tech.  You and I know Montgomery has been a dying little town since the coal boom days, so this will certainly be an opportunity for the school to grow.  I was always surprised that they could get quality instructors to move there.  We used to love the basketball games when Coach Baisi was there and Mike Barrett was the star.

We (and 10,000 others) attended a "Stand With God" rally in Columbia Saturday
and it was exactly what I needed.  The music was wonderful, including a 500 member choir, a blue grass band etc.  we met at the State Capitol and they blocked off streets to accommodate us.  There were lots of children, and folks of all ages and races.  The spirit of love was everywhere.  All were so respectful and loving.  The woman beside me said that "we got a taste of heaven today."  Speakers included pastors, plus Senator Tim Scott, Senator Ted Cruz and Former Gov. Perry.  Even the weather was pleasant for August in SC.

Mike, regarding the former Sec.of.State, this must be a right-wing conspiracy, I heard her once say she didn't get a subpoena. Rumor here is Trey Gowdy does not like his job, dislikes Washington and wants to be a Federal Judge......

classmate, Mary Lou emailed me recently.  She sounded great and is really enjoying life--especially her great grandchildren!   

We had a terrific class.
Mike Murphy on September 1, 2015 4:21 PM
Carol - Sounds like you folks had a great time. Hope to see you at the Reunion.

Carl - Crotchety? I am going to pull a Fred on you and ask you to Clarify?  73 and running on empty!

Keep the faith
Carl on September 1, 2015 4:58 PM

Clarify? Did you say CLARIFY?
I swear Mike I don’t know how or why
You’d think such things. Now, my oh my,
I think I’m better off if I
Just let proverbial sleeping dogs lie
And repent in private -- but hardly clarify.
Why just the thought’s enough to terrify
Me, and I sure don’t even care if I
Too am crotchety. So there. Bye-bye.

Mike Murphy on September 1, 2015 6:20 PM
Carl - After that clarification? I think you owe us a poem!

Tracy - How is the Family?

Keep the Faith
Fredrick Lucas on September 1, 2015 8:52 PM
During the weekend of 12 September, the annual Scottish Festival will be held in Columbus Indiana.There will be strength games, singers and dancers.Border collies will herd sheep . Last year, the caber toss was won by a woman. She had the right way to make the toss. The guys tried strength only and failed. There will be a number of European cars that will be on display.

I will go to Nashville Indiana on Sunday.The town is located between Gnaw Bone and Bean Blossom . Do any of you know what well known person hails from Bean Blossom? The country singer Bill Monroe.

There is an outlet mall in the area.

I would like to offer condolences to the family of Charles Gowen.  

Carl on September 2, 2015 11:45 AM
J. Fred, I've enjoyed Scottish Highland Games and their sporting events, especially the caber toss.  I'm intrigued by the news that last year's winner in Columbus, IN was a woman.  Wouldn't that have been at about the exact time that Bruce was becoming Caitlyn?  Coincidence?

Becky Novarro on September 2, 2015 2:27 PM
According to today's email, there have only been 33 people who have signed up for the 55th reunion.  I know we have lost a lot of friends, but had hoped to see a bunch or unfamiliar faces!!!!  Those who haven't come to a reunion in years.  It really only hurts a little while to see all us old people.  So, let's try to get in touch with our friends and neighbors and see if we can at least get 55 for 55th.
Sincerely, Becky.....Queen of the Hop...ha.
Thomas Dillon on September 2, 2015 4:36 PM
I echo the hope that every member of the class try and make the reunion. Five more years may mean a significant decrease in our numbers and surely our health.
Myron, Carl --  I would be happy to call some classmates who have not responded and see if we can improve our numbers. Send me some phone info to my email address.
I don't think I can get down to 175 lbs. in a little over 4 weeks, however, still have most of my hair and my chiropracter today has increased times between sessions to 2 weeks. And the Concord grapes have started to turn -- many of us in today's times would have been arrested for the grapes and apples we stole from our neighbor's backyards.
Carl on September 2, 2015 5:37 PM
Alright, alright already!
Becky, my darlin', lovin' cousin, if it's that important to you, I'll come. 
[You see, I'm not one of the 33 who have registered,
he said red-facedly.] 
I know of another classmate who's coming but also has not registered. 
See, we're already up to 35.  So let's all 
shake the bushes.
This one will be bittersweet.  Of the group of 8 "Misfits" that I've been part of in past reunions, 3 will not be there (death, ill health, and scheduling), and a 4th is unaccounted for.  "The times, they are a-changin'."     carpe diem     MAGFAY
Cookie on September 2, 2015 6:47 PM
The whole bunch of you are starting to scare me with the demise talk--that giant sucking sound I hear every time I go on this blog must be the water rapidly circling the drain.  I refuse to give up!  I refuse to give up!

Tracy French on September 2, 2015 9:29 PM
I hate to admit it... but I also am one that did not get registered on time.  I am now registered and I talked to David Eskew and he will deliver his money to Myron tomorrow.

Mike:  Family is doing well, Carol is improving every day but her ankle remains frozen with her heel now about 2 inches off the floor.  She has been moving around the house most of the time without her walker but she fell a week ago Tuesday and that hurt her confidence (nothing else hurt) a little bit.  Granddaughter will go back to Morgantown in January for more eye surgery.

Had a great time at the dinner last night, it seemed like no one wanted to leave and I didn't get home till after 9PM.

Look forward to seeing everone at the reunion next month.
Mike Murphy on September 3, 2015 1:37 PM
Tracy - It is great to hear your good news. I'll bet that grandaughter is a knock out?

Fred - I think you should reconsider and attend the reunion, lest I have no one to argue with? 

Carl - Are you still working on a poem?

Keep the Faith
Carl on September 3, 2015 6:06 PM
Murph, surely you're familiar with the saying, "Be careful what you wish for."  In response to your request for a poem, here's one.

My dear old classmate Michael Murphy
gives no ground: mountain, plain or surf. He
rejects left-wing cant
and reacts with such rant
that I’ve prayed for him ‘til I’ve got turf knee.

[And I will continue to do so.]
[Fredo, I'll bet you like this one.]

Mike Murphy on September 4, 2015 10:15 AM
Carl- I have always thought your Knees were cute?

As for the poem - not up to Duke of Carl Standards!

Keep the faith
Carl on September 4, 2015 11:13 AM
Murph, sad to say, Muse is a fickle lover.  Better luck next time [to both of us].  [Getting another "new" knee in Oct.  Hope it's cute.]

Ched on September 4, 2015 1:23 PM
I really hope that  we have a great  turnout this time. The next reunion ( if it happens) may be much lower. Bob Lambert  will not be  there as he has a conflict with a previously scheduled  European trip.
 As Mike  says " Keep the  faith" 
Carl on September 4, 2015 1:40 PM
Friends, I'd be pleased as punch with a large turnout, but that may be unrealistic.  The 2010 "Golden Anniversary" reunion likely drew an extra large crowd due to its being a special milestone.  But whatever number we draw, this will be special in a different way; as will all future reunions.  Now let's put on a happy face [ ;-) ]  -- at least for Cookie's sake --  and keep the faith. 
Fredrick Lucas on September 5, 2015 4:51 PM
I will think of you while I am in Callaway Gardens Georgia. There was a good turnout for the last reunion. There were also good turnouts at the reunions organized by Pat Smith.

Some time ago, I spoke with graduates of Western Hills High School who are in their early 80's. They have had their 60th reunion and continue to meet at a local restaurant once a month. Pete Rose and Don Zimmer graduated from Western Hills H.S.

You might consider donating money to a scholarship fund and having the principal of the high school give the alumni a progress report.

As I mentioned in the past President Gee gave a talk about progress at WVU at the Cincinnati Chapter of the WVU Alumni Association
spring dinner. We reported that we have given 16 one thousand dollar scholarships to students from our area who want to attend WVU. That is the way that we give back so to speak. 

Mike Murphy on September 6, 2015 9:28 AM
Where does the Occupancy Tax go for Pipestem since it is unincorperated?

Look forward to seeing all of you at the reunion, where a good time will be had by all attending!

Keep the Faith
Mike murphy on September 6, 2015 7:35 PM
I guess that we can continue to wear our Herd, Mountaineer and Patriot gear for a while longer.  Marshall 41 Purdue 31 - WVU 44 South Georgia 0 and the air is back in Bradys Balls.

Keep the faith

Tracy French on September 8, 2015 8:00 PM
Dear Classmates:  I am working on my sermon for Sunday and I wanted to share with you some of my thoughts on the Kim Davis issue.
When Man’s Law is in conflict with God’s Law – God’s Law MUST prevail at all costs to the believer.

Daniel Chapter 3 (Summary) The King makes a decree (law) that everyone must worship a golden image.  There were some Jews who REFUSED to worship the idol and they were cast into a burning firey furnace (the penalty for refusing to comply) and God sent an angel to comfort and deliver them.

Daniel Chapter 6 (Summary)  Daniel is living under God’s Law and is prospering  exceeding well, so well in fact that it makes others jealous and they devise a way to have Daniel killed.  The only way they know to accomplish this is to have Daniel break God’s Law.  In the scheme to have Daniel killed the jealous others even talk the king into making a decree according to the Law of the Medes and Persians (Supreme Court of The United States????).  Daniel REFUSES to comply and is tossed into a den of lions (the penalty for refusing to comply).  Again God sends an angel to comfort and deliver.

The Book of Esther also contains a wonder story of how God’s people are delivered when they refuse to abide by Man’s Law when it contradicts God’s Law.

Tom Dillon on September 11, 2015 2:43 PM
Tracy, thanks for sharing. Perhaps one day I can enjoy one of your messages to your congregation in person.
See everyone in 3 weeks. Has turned cool here with rain. 


Mike Murphy on September 12, 2015 10:13 AM
Tracy - Have the leaves started to turn in Mercer Co,?

Look forward to seeing youall!

Keep the Faith

Tracy French on September 12, 2015 10:38 AM
Mike:  Leaves are not changing yet but chinquapins are ripe and native chestnuts are starting to fall.  We have had some much needed rain the last 3 days so that should help keep the leaves from turning and falling too soon and hopefully we will have a beautiful autumn season when we have the class reunion.

Carl:  Did you get my emails about the other deceased classmates?

Tracy French on September 12, 2015 10:45 AM
Does anyone know of any deceased classmates that are not on Carl's list of "in memory of" on the web page?

I thought of 3 more:  Harold Philips and 2 from Knob School, Muncy Snow and Gloria Blankenship.

Please let me know if you do and I will add their names to the list for the Memorial Service.
Becky Novarro on September 12, 2015 3:04 PM
Tracy, Where do you find chinquapins? If they are plentiful, bring some to the reunion and sell them...I'll buy!

Tracy French on September 12, 2015 8:31 PM
Becky:  I have chinquapins and you are welcome to come and pick some if you want but they will be gone by the time we have our reunion and they do not keep at all.  As a rule they must be eaten the day or the day after they are picked if they are to be good.

If you're still in town come by tomorrow, I will be back from Mullens around 3PM and should be home all day Monday.
Becky Novarro on September 14, 2015 10:40 AM
Tracy, Thanks for inviting me to pick but it's too cold out!  ha.  My Poppy sent me a box of them to NJ and they were nothing but worms.  Yes, you need to eat them right away.  I haven't eaten one in many years.  At least I know now where to find them.  Thanks again.
Carl on September 14, 2015 11:46 AM
Becky, speaking of NJ, I thought of you yesterday as I drove south thru NJ from NY to DE.  Answer a few NJ questions if you can:
  1.  How many
black SUVs do you think are in NJ?
  2.  What percentage of NJ SUVs are a color other than black?
  3.  When you & Jim lived there, what color(s) were your SUVs?
These questions came to mind because a) I no longer drive above 80 mph and b) I lost count as they sped past me one after another after another.
Becky Novarro on September 15, 2015 12:16 PM
Carl Darlin, We didn't have an SUV but I know what you mean.  Nevermind SUV's, just black cars!  You had to have been on the Jersey Turnpike...scary, isn't it?  Great rest stops!
Mike Murphy on September 15, 2015 2:24 PM
Tracy & Carl
I am not sure if you have Bobby Hawks (RIP) on the Memorial List. If not please add. He was a good friend, great guy and used to try to catch my wild pitching. 

Keep the faith
Fredrick Lucas on September 16, 2015 7:29 AM
At the Scottish Festival in Columbus Indiana, I met a man whose last name was Monroe. He had retired last year from an electric utility in Colorado. He told me that the utility had closed eleven coal fired power plants. They used gas fired power plants. These  plants are cheaper to operate. I asked whether the Obama Administration had influenced the decision. He said that there was no political influence. It was an economic decision. They had bought coal from the coal fields in Wyoming.

He further explained that coal and gas are finite resources and that eventually other ways will be needed.

When I visited France, I noticed that they used nuclear energy. He explained that Congress won't allow these types of facilities to be built. Fred
Carl on September 16, 2015 11:38 AM
J. Fred, the U.S. renounced the building of nuclear power plants following the Three Mile Island accident in 1979 -- 36+ years ago -- due largely to public outcries by environmental (anti-nuclear power) groups and public fear.  While no reliable, definitive findings indicate any significant resultant health problems for residents near Three Mile Island, this was effectively the death-knell for the U.S. nuclear industry (although we've continued to operate existing nuclear power plants).  In the intervening 36 years, France (any other countires) have demonstrated that nuclear power can be safely generated -- the 1986 Chernobyl disaster notwithstanding.  But no one dare suggest that we return to nuclear energy expansion.
   For me, the fascinating alternative to conventional nuclear energy production, nuclear fission, is the prospect of solving and harnessing energy produced by nuclear fusion.  Nuclear fusion has the potential of being far safer and producing far less nuclear waste.  Let's get them scientists going on this!

Mike Murphy on September 16, 2015 9:53 AM
Fred- your source is not reliable. Natural gas is much more expensive for coal fired generation of electricity. Several coal fired generation plants have closed in WV due to EPA and your wonderful Seirra Club. Two of my neighbors work at power plants and worry about their jobs. Also electric bills are going up 23% this winter. Perhaps you and your lib friends should move to France where you can pay 80% of your income in taxes. I have been there, it is a great place to visit but their Socialist government is about to bankrupt them.
Every time a coal fired plant closes 50 to 200 jobs are lost plus thousands in coal and related jobs. What does the Huffington Post and France have to say to those folks? - get a GREEN Job at Sylinra?

Look forward to seeing my wounderful classmates at Pipestem.
Keep the Faith
Cookie on September 16, 2015 12:19 PM
My dad worked for the power company for 38 years.  His father worked for the power company for 32 years.  I know a COUPLE of things about the power company.
My classmates will be relieved to know I am unable to join this thread since I am reduced to "gutter" language.
Going for a ride -- the weather is nice, putting the top down and people don't mind if I cuss while alone on Route 4.  My music drowns it out.  
Carl on September 16, 2015 2:35 PM
Well Cookie darlin', I for one have always liked it when you talk dirty.
Go treat yourself.

Tracy French on September 16, 2015 2:02 PM

I heard that!


Tracy French on September 16, 2015 2:13 PM

I had forgotten about Bobby Hawks.  He was also a good friend of mine in school.  Thanks for the reminder.

Does anyone remember Judy Ann Hill.  Her obituary is in today's Bluefield Daily Telegraph and it says she went to school at Princeton during her early years and was the Princeton High School Mascot when she was 8 years old.  She is also a 42 model which would put her in our class.
Cookie on September 16, 2015 3:22 PM
Back Home!  Sorry Tracy I didn't mean for you to hear that but I feel just SO MUCH BETTER.

I remember Judy Hill.  Her cousin or a relative was a majorette...long blond hair.  

Tracy French on September 16, 2015 11:29 PM
My pick from the Presidential Debate tonight is:
Huckabee for President and Cruz for VP but I think a clear winner would be Trump and the Lady (did I say that right?)
Fredrick Lucas on September 17, 2015 5:20 AM

Again, according to Mr. Monroe,t he

edecision made in Colorado was a management decision which is consistent with the free enterprise system. 


Fredrick Lucas on September 17, 2015 5:20 AM

Again, according to Mr. Monroe,t he

edecision made in Colorado was a management decision which is consistent with the free enterprise system. 


Thomas Dillon on September 17, 2015 11:24 AM
Fred, you make the ultimate straight man in a comedy routine, ergo, I can't let your last post go by without a come back. You seem a little scattered.
Fredrick Lucas on September 17, 2015 7:54 PM
Tom you got it Mr. Monroe explained that the electric utility made a management decision to  close eleven coal fired power plants and replace them with natural gas. They wanted a better environment for the Colorado residents.ll Also since India and China are the worst air polluters, the United States should lead the way to curb air pollution in its country. According to Fox TV 1.4 million Chinese residents died from air pollution caused by burning coal.

Should coal fired power plants close  in West Virginia, those affected could retrain in other occupations. Years ago, a number of miners thought that book learning was for women. The miners thought that physical strength was enough for the labor market.  Fred

Tracy French on September 18, 2015 9:32 AM
You all let one get by you!  My comment about the Presidental debate should have taken you back to 1955 and "Lady and the Tramp".  Surely I'm not the only one who remembers those great years when Knob was Snob, Thorn was Corn and Mercer was Worser am I?
Mike Murphy on September 18, 2015 1:12 PM
Fred - I dare say there are many Coal Miners, including women, that are smarter than you and I?

Many more people in Africa die from resporitory problems from burning animal dung, than in China from Coal?, because they do not have coal to provide electricity. Also you & I should be thankful to all those coal miners who provided taxes for our education and kept the lights on and provided hundreds of thousands of jobs in industry. Most coal miner just want to provide a good life for their families. Sorry that WV has treated you soo poorly? What does the Tora say about hating on your country and ansestory? Perhaps you need retraining?

Look forward to a Wounderful, Blessed and Glorious Reunion!

Tracy - don't quit your day job for comedy?

Keep the faith

Cookie on September 18, 2015 2:12 PM
Can we just get a "like" option on the blog.  Will solve my vocabulary problem once and for all.  
Carl on September 18, 2015 4:59 PM
Sorry Cookie.  I called an emergency meeting of the Website Action Committee & Coordination Office [WACCO] to consider your request.  By unanimous vote, they decided to preserve the more "primitive" nature of the blog vs. what we consider a cheap, easy, popular but largely meaningless "Like" option.  We liken the blog to conventional voting where people have been required, except for special circumstances, to actually travel to the poll, on election day, properly registered or able to document their legal privilege, to exercise their franchise.  We believe that this policy explains, at least in part, how we're able to keep the blog dialogue consistently on so high an intellectual plane.  Thanks for you inquiry, concern, good intentions and continued participation on the blog. 
     NOTE: Vocabulary development is to be desired.
Fredrick Lucas on September 18, 2015 9:19 PM
Since China and India are the greatest polluters, the United States is encouraging them to lower their carbon emissions. The United States along with other nations is trying to lower carbon emissions to try to bring global warming under control. Unless that eventually happens, cities along the east coast are in danger of flooding, Some animals could become extinct.Weather patterns could change. If you look at NASA photos of the ocean bordering Russia and Alaska, much of the area is ice free. Entire Alaskan villages are in danger of flooding.

The temperature this year is the highest on record. Will California continue to be dry? Fred

Ched on September 19, 2015 10:55 AM
Its always a nobel objective  to cut back on polutants as much as practical however  the whole "global warming  thing is mostly basedon opinion.
 Fact: the HadCRUT3 surface temperature index shows warming until 1878  cooling until 1911, warming until 1941, cooling until 1964  warming until 1998. The  warmingrate  from 1964-1998 was the  same as  the warming  rate  from 1911-1941 . Satellites, weather baloons and ground  stations all show cooling since 2001.
The slight warming of 0.5C-.0.8C over the 20th century is  considered  to be well within natural variations.
CO2  makes up only 0.04% of  the earths atmosphere and is essentiasl for plant life on earth.  water vapor is  the biggest gree house gas contributor !

 That  said it only makes good  sense  to conserve energy and be good  stewards of  the planet 
Fredrick Lucas on September 19, 2015 8:52 PM
I am amazed that the discussion about CO2 levels and the closing of eleven coal fired power plants started this discussionVarious scientists have different perspectives about global warming. NASA scientists and English weather scientists have said that there is a strong probibility that CO2 levels are too high and influence global warming. 

According to the conservative network, Fox TV, 1.4 million chinese citizens died from air pollution last year, that is from  the burning of coal. Several years ago the US took the lead out of gasoline and attached a filter to the tail pipe.
Carl on September 19, 2015 8:57 PM
J. Fred, "amazement" is somewhat like the cold viruses.  Some are far more susceptible than others.
Mike Murphy on September 20, 2015 10:19 AM
Maple leaves are starting to turn here in greater downtown Kenna. It should be magnificent in about 12 days at Pipestem. Perhaps we can have an October fest. With lots of good beer and Carl can wear his Lederhosen. Remember many good times in Munich, Bertchgaden, Frankfurt, and Garmish-Partenkirchen, drinking much good and some nasty German beer. Also we could have some Polka music and Curley and Becky could lead us in dance and Tom could give us some Freudian advice & counsel. The frost is on the Pumpkin?

Hopefully Fred's amazingly silly global warming won't ruin our reunion. Ban Cow Flatulantz and Carbonated Drinks. 

Keep the Peace
Carl on September 20, 2015 11:11 AM
Ahhh, Mike.  The nostalgia that you generate.  Sadly, I haven't been able to fit into my lederhosen since about 1967.  But I can be there with bells on.  [Bells are unisex and one-size-fits all.  I love bells.]
Fredrick Lucas on September 20, 2015 9:54 PM
Global Warming is a serious topic Mike. During the past 150 years, CO2 has increased by 50% from the burning of fossil fuels. There is a power plant in Kentucky whose management is weighing whether to continue using coal or switch to natural gas. Either way, the company will have to sepend one billion dollars. If they choose coal they will have to spend,   a billion dollars for new scrubbers. If they choose natural gas they will have to spend o ne billion dollars for a new facility.

When coal is burned acid rain can result. People can get asthma. Our cars have catalytic converters to help with pollution. We buy no lead gasoline. Efforts to reduce  our carbon footprint by closing coal fired power plants are international in scope. Fred

Mike Murphy on September 21, 2015 9:32 AM
Fred - Read Ched's analysis of Global Warming, which is based on fact and not liberal hiperbaley and you will (should) conclude that the amount of warming is negligable. Natural gas just does not have enough BTUs to replace Coal as an energy source, therefore we should be working on ways to burn coal more efficently, economically and cleanly.

You, Al Gore and BHO and the Huffington Post, et al, will not be satisified until every Coal Miner loses their job over a manufactured theory. Polar Bears are not dying because of CO2, but families are being disrupted and devistated by your crusade.

Hopefully our numbers have increased for attendance at the Reunion. Look forward to seeing youall,

Pete and Geno are you guys OK?

Keep the faith

Mike Murphy on September 21, 2015 1:01 PM
There is an article in todays Charleston Gazette mail which vividly illustrates my point on the damage being done to families by Climate Change Crusaders against coal. It can be found on page 5A at titled "EPA's Casualties Often Unseen" by Terri M. Jarrett, former Missouri PSC Commissioner. He states that "Communities most affected by Power Plan long forgotten by Washington". "While the direct damage to coal mines and power plants is easily apparent and quantifiable, the indirect damage to low-income communities across the nation os less obvious." 

For those truly interested in climate change and economic impact I recommend you read this article and he (as well as I) recommends that you view a video at and search for Count on Coal Alabama 2015. I think you will find it enlightening and worth your 4 mins. 

Libs and the EPA are ruining WV and the economy of the USA. Socialism is good until you run out of other peoples money! I think Margret Thatcher said that? 

How about that Fiorina and Carson?

Carl - How do you get hypertext on the blog ie

Keep the faith

Tracy French on September 21, 2015 3:35 PM
The "Global Warming" has been an interesting topic.  Thank all of you for contributing.

Who has an opinion on the immigration problem or the national debt?
Fredrick Lucas on September 21, 2015 6:55 PM
I guess that according to you Mike, the electric company management in Colorado doesn't know what they are doing. Ched does even though neither you nor Ched were in the management meeting.Good boy. 

The good Republican physician has stated that members of the Islamic faith should never be elected to the office of president. Strange Jeb Bush said that his brother kept us safe. Really. He was president when the attack on New York and the Pentagon  September 11, 2001. Fred

Carl on September 21, 2015 9:10 PM
J. Fred, are you contending that the Colorado electric company "knows what they are doing" because they say so?  Congratulations, you're the first liberal in my experience who readily accepts what a big business claims in support of their business decisions.  [Some might call that "cherry picking."]

But far more importantly, are you implying that George W. Bush was responsible for not preventing 9/11?
Fredrick Lucas on September 21, 2015 10:27 PM
Carl, I do not identify as a "liberal"Bush was president when the attack occurred. The attack was a surprise which occurred on his watch. We weren't protected. 

I like to occupy the center. Did the company make the best decision? Time will tell. I should state that I own stock in an electric utility and an energy company.

One of the harmful effects of yhe burning of fossil fuels is that harmful chemicals get into the air. In China, 250,000 school children have respiratory problems resulting from burning coal.
Cookie on September 22, 2015 12:08 AM
Thank you Webmaster for the blog.
I am truly amazed at how much I learn on a daily basis just by following the dialogue.
Appears prior to this experience I was sadly uninformed and didn't know "Jack."
Mike Murphy on September 22, 2015 9:49 AM
Tracy- We desperatly need a national balanced budget amendment and entitlement reform, Reduced government spending with a plan to pay off the debt in 10 years.

Immigration - We need a physical and electronic and a manned (womaned) barrier on the southern border and enforce the laws that are on the books now. The same applies to gun control, plus eliminate gun free zones. 

Fred - if you knew anything about utilities you would know their decisions are not made on capitalism. They are the ultimate Socialist industry. Did Colorado & Feds give incentives to change from coal to gas? The rate hike included the change over and the increase in fuel/Kilowatt hr. at a percentage which resulted in more profit for the utility. By the way did you know as of 2013 you will pay an extra 3.8% fed tax on the profit on the sale of you utility stock in addition to other stocks for support of Obama Care?

Fred -Bye the way the Muslim religion is all encompasing on followers for all daily life including government. Inshalla (God Willing). Our government is based on seperation of church and state, therefore "true" Islam is in contrast to our constitution. 

Keep the faith
It is a beautiful day in the neighborhood
Carl on September 22, 2015 10:32 AM
Sounds like Murph may have had an extra bowl of Wheaties this morning.   ;-)

Tracy French on September 22, 2015 4:31 PM
Mike:  Thanks for your input but I need much more info.  I am considering preaching this Sunday on the National Debt and the Immigration issue.  I am thinking about using the Old Testament Scripture Ezekiel 47:22 and I haven't decided about the New Testament yet.

Cookie: I can see by your last remark that you have clearly cleaned up your language.  Congratulations.

Carl:  Didn't know people were still eating Wheaties today but it's obvious Mike got extra zip from something. 

Fred:  You have any comments on the National Debt and Immigration? 

Now for a math problem:  Feds are increading the money supply by 8% annualy.  How many years will they have to do that to make the National Debt worthless?
Mike Murphy on September 23, 2015 12:51 PM
Sorry Tracy, I have already told you more than I know on the subject?

I met Huckabee in Charleston WV in 1999, he made a presentation at the Southern Governors Conference on Technology, He was then Gov of Arkansas & Underwood was chair of the conference. Very Chrismatic guy, but not my favorite for Pres. I currently like Feriona and Carson.

The Pope is making a big splash this morning on TV. To bad the politiciacns have to be in the middle of it all. Aretta and I had the great pleasure to be in audience with John Paul, Twice, once on Christmas day when he was not supposed to appear because of sickness, but we were at St Peters and he appeared on the balcony at noon. There was something definitely Holy about him. My son went to high school in Rome therefore we were there often. You may think that I am Catholic, because I am a Murphy and close with keep the faith (actually Irish) but am mostly Protostant and like most wrestle with my beliefs. I admire your pursuit of the faith, both as a Minister and a good man, please keep us in your prayers.

Keep the Faith

Fredrick Lucas on September 23, 2015 4:21 PM
Those who are interested in air pollution deaths should be aware that according to a Study done in 2013 by MIT Laboratory for aviation and the environment found that about 200,000 pepole in the USA die each year from premature deaths. Those who die from premature deaths from coal fired electrical plants number 52000. Finally, 53000 people die from road transportation pollution Fred
Fredrick Lucas on September 23, 2015 4:27 PM
Yogi Berra died yesterday of natural causes He was 90. The game of life is like baseball. The Yankee catcher said about the game "it aint over till its over. Fred
Ched on September 24, 2015 7:35 PM
The number of "premature deaths " may be a reliable number but to tag a cause of death seems like a bogus number. I could even accept a number related to COPD  but  to drill down to coal fired power plants is suspicious . Many in academia have a liberal political agenda. 
Thomas Dillon on September 25, 2015 10:42 AM

"Only the lonely" will know the feeling if they miss the festivities for next weekend.
I count 7 sleeps.


Thomas Dillon on September 25, 2015 10:45 AM
Naps do not count.
Carl on September 25, 2015 1:06 PM
Good people, let's git 'er done!
My current count is 43 classmates now registered.
Surely there remain "persuadables" out there.
Help me shake the bushes.  Contact any who you may be able to draw in.  Here's the classmate list [not including spouses/guests]:

Aloma Rose Jones
Barbara Calfee Fields
Becky Arney Novarro
Bill Morris
Billie Rae Hall Harris
Brenda Martin Sword
Candy Rorrer Thomas
Carl Thomason
Carol Blevins Stafford
Ched Yearout
Cookie Hill Brown
Darla Winfrey Pitzer
Dotty Morris Lambert
Doug Neal
Edward Tomchin
Emma Lou Davis Johnston
Fran Rice Baker
Gene Fields
Gerald Wizon
Ginger Goings Clower
James McKenzie
Jim George
Judy Anderson Hash
Linda Phlegar Mills
Lorraine Goodykoontz Fowlkes
Mary Lou Stroupe Pencarinha
Mike Farley
Mike Herring
Mike Murphy
Myron Anderson
Patricia Pennington Graf
Patty Baker Anderson
Peggy Charolene Fields Glenn
Pete Stephenson
Raymond Kidwell
Roberta Kniffin Woodson
Stan Hill
Terry St. Clair
Tom Dillon
Tommy Ray Goings
Tracy French
Wayne Alvis
Wil Wilhelm

Carl on September 25, 2015 3:53 PM
and Paul Baker & Jerry Smith make 45.  Keep 'em comin'.
Fredrick Lucas on September 26, 2015 2:26 PM
Ched, the researchers from MIT checked premature death rates in the midwest and in the east central parts of the nation. Premature deaths were higher in those areas. Why? High sulpher coal was used in the coal fired plants in those areas.

You can always contact MIT to review their study.

Fredrick Lucas on September 26, 2015 2:43 PM
Tracy, I concluded my review of air pollution and global warming.I don't plan to do another one. I find that people on the blog want to react to what I write. They aren't starting a topic of their own. I've discussed problems with football, the abortion question as well as planned parenthood.

Recently we learned that one of the ladies in our class has asthma.Sadly she might have a premature death. Asthma often results from air pollution.
Carl on September 26, 2015 2:55 PM
J. Fred, what you cite in this comment is a simple statistical correlation.  It proves nothing, and, in and of itself, is the weakest form of evidence (aside from sheer, baseless opinion).  While no one would contend that air pollution doesn't contribute to illness and death, concentration of coal-fired plants and type of coal burned, taken by itself -- as you do -- is an extremely poor measure of overall air pollution and the incidence of resulting "premature death."  I'd bet the ranch that even MIT scientists would not argue this point.
Fredrick Lucas on September 26, 2015 4:12 PM
Carl, on the question of air pollution, I cited the findings of the MIT study. You remind me of the time that I was in Boone County WV and was talking about the book Yesterday's People. He told me that the book was horrible that it made the residents look like they they were backward. I asked him whether he had read the book. He had not read the book.

Carl, read the study and then make your comments.Mike commented on what I learned years ago that many coal miners didn'tvalue education.I was a member of the Appalachian Community Development Association Board of Directors for four years during the 70's. The Urban Appalachian Council tracked the educational attainment of migrants from the Appalachian region and also those whose children went to school in the Cincinnati metro area. At the time the majority dropped out of school in the ninth grade. Fred

Carl on September 26, 2015 6:40 PM
Fredo, please forgive me, and please, pretty please, ignore/disregard my previous comment.  After reading your rebuttal, I've just stopped banging my head against the wall and, predictably, it's starting to feel much better.  As a result, I'm committing to ending my response to your social/economic pronouncements.  May you find continuing comfort in your simplistic world.

Carl on September 27, 2015 12:20 PM
Fellow bloggers, I've just stripped 4 months of comments from the Blog.  Hope to rid it of that much more when I get the time.
   This should reduce the "load" time when you click to the Blog page; it may also speed up comment posting to the Blog.  Hope this helps, especially for those with slower internet service.
Mike Murphy on September 27, 2015 1:04 PM
Carl- Will this make it quicker for Fred to post his irrelavent correlations?

Look forward to seeing you marvelous classmates next wknd!

Keep the Faith ie Good Triumphs Over Evil
Carl on September 27, 2015 2:03 PM
Now Mike, it's the Sabbath -- maybe not Fred's, but yours.
Fredrick Lucas on September 27, 2015 6:43 PM
I checked several sources and learned that there are several old coal fired power plants. Parents who live near these plants have reported a rise in asthma and other respiratory problems among children. C plants produce nitrogen oxides, phildren play outside and breathe more polluted air than the adults who remain inside. However, adults who live near these facilities have cardiac problems.Burning coal in power pants produce arsenic, benzene, mercury compounds, methane, sulpher dioxide, The average weight of emissions is 2249 lbsMWh of carbon dioxide  , 13lbs Wh of sulpher dioxide and 6 lbs MWh MWh of nitrogen oxides. These emissions  are responsible for 70 % of the nations sulpher dioxide emissions, 13 % of nitrogen oxides  and 40% of carbon dioxide. These emissions can lead to smog, acid rain and haze. Source, United States EPA. Remember our classmate Sarah who has asthma and cannot exercise. Fred

Fredrick Lucas on September 27, 2015 6:52 PM
The old coal fired plants are in Massachutes. I forgot to mention that in my other post. Fred

Carl on September 27, 2015 9:57 PM
Mike, to insert a web link into a Blog comment, go to the web page, right-click the web address [in the address window], select "Copy" then go into your comment where you want to place it, right-click there and select "Paste."

CAUTION: If it's a really long web address, it can foul up the Blog margins and create a mess.  However, I've not had this problem with YouTube pages.
Fredrick Lucas on September 28, 2015 4:37 AM
Should Mike comment on my latest post I won't reply.Why? He wants to preserve the coal industry in West Virginia and beyond.I am not trying to suggest anything. Tracy, I would suggest that someone in Mercer County should monitor air quality to determine what toxins are being released and in what amounts. Fred

Mike Murphy on September 28, 2015 12:40 PM
Fred - Please don't presume you know my motives for wanting Coal Mining to continue!

I want the USA and WV to have many good paying jobs as well as clean air. To have maximum job creation and economic growth we must have low priced energy including coal and oil, also neucular could serve as well. Wind Mills and Solar will not serve light or heavy industry, including manufacturing, which is needed to spur our economy and provide good jobs, not welfare. It angers me when you gloat about closing out mining and coal fired power plants without regards to the many families whose lives are ruined.

You "say you are not trying to suggest anything" , but in the next sentence, suggest to Tracy that he should see that air quality is monitored in Mercer County? Only a Gadfly would post inflamatory comments and statistics and then say "not trying to suggest anything"?

Looking forward to a wounderful Reunion.
Keep the Faith

Tracy French on September 28, 2015 2:51 PM
At last count, Carl told us that 45 classmates have signed up for the reunion.  I am preparing for the Memorial Service and I notice that I have 45 on the list of deceased classmates.  I will not have a candlelighting service this year as it would take too much time.  I plan to read a Psalm, say a few words in general about them before reading the list of deceased then closing with a prayer.

I have one classmate who has asked if she may say a few words about one of the deceased and I hate to deny her request as it could lead to a very long service.  On the other hand, I think maybe if I let just the one speak, what she says would be emblematic of the deceased and what they may have meant to others.  May I have your comments on this please?
Fredrick Lucas on September 28, 2015 7:42 PM
Tracy, I hope that you have a nice memorial service for all forty five people. Some were wives, others were husbands. Some had children others didn't. A few remained single.  Each contributed to the society in which they lived. The French have a proverb. La vie est en rose. Life is in the rose. One must endure thorns or hardships before one can see smell and touch the beautiful rose. The rose represents beauty abd joy that enters our lives especially after hardships. Fred
Fredrick Lucas on September 28, 2015 7:55 PM
Mike, rather than react to my perspectives upon various topics as you have done, why don't you pick a topic, give us your perspective and let us react by starting and carrying on a conversation. 

I thought of the children in Massachusetts who live near outdated coal fired power plants who have asthma. Like our classmate Sarah who can't exercise because she has asthma, they suffer because the utility hasn't gone to a gas fired system. One utility is going to do that.

Thought that you might want to know about what is going on.  Fred.


Tracy French on September 28, 2015 8:30 PM
Fred:  Thanks for you input, that was well said.
Carl on September 28, 2015 10:33 PM
Tracy, I know of no one in our class whose judgment I trust more than yours.  Do what you think is best.  It's a reverential gathering of good-minded folks after all.
Mike Murphy on September 29, 2015 12:47 PM
Tracy - I agree with the great sage Carl.

Thanks for your heavenly service.

Tracy French on September 29, 2015 8:30 PM
Thank all of you who responded to my plea for help both on the blog and in the private emails.  I will limit the service to between 10 and 15 minutes.

Ched on September 29, 2015 9:56 PM
Just watching "The Voice". A young female country singer from Coal City WV hit it out of the park,. Look up Coal City  tiny town in Raleigh Co.
pete Stephenson on September 30, 2015 11:15 AM
Pete here.I'm looking forward to our get together this weekend.I pray that all have safe travels to and from here.The weather forecast for the region is 80% rain Fri and 90% saturday.The temps have remained in the mid to upper 70's this week.Real muggy now.The foilage is staying drab looking so far.Tracy do your thing man.I'll be behind you 100%.Travel safe my friends,Faith.Hope and Love.

Fredrick Lucas on September 30, 2015 8:46 PM
I want to wish each of you a peaceful safe and happy journey to the reunion at Pipestem State Park. While there you will greet old friends and loved ones and remember fondly those who have ended their journey through life. 

You can even see wildlife expecially deer feeding at dusk.Such a wonderful pastoral scene. Fred
Carl on October 2, 2015 11:33 AM
Becky, if memory serves me -- a big IF -- there were about 225 in our graduating class.  [You'd think that the guy handling the mailing list would know this, wouldn't you?]

Becky Novarro on October 1, 2015 5:02 PM
Today's question for all you smart people.  How many graduated with us?  I am constantly asked that and have no idea.  Maybe if it is written down, I'll remember.
I hope to see all of you or most tomorrow night.  Don't want to say if the creek don't rise as there is a possibility.
Darla on October 2, 2015 6:46 AM more sleeps!!!
Fredrick Lucas on October 3, 2015 5:06 PM
Carl as I recall there were 225 graduates in the class of 60. Fred
Thomas Dillon on October 4, 2015 5:32 PM
Left Pipestem at day break -- afraid to leave earlier due to fog and mist and presence of deer in the parking lot in front of the lodge as I was packing the car. We saw nearly two dozen as we slowing exited the park a little after 7 AM. Home in just 8 hours. Great weather all the way.
Great to see all of you at the reunion and enjoyed our time together.
Again, thanks to the Reunion committee members, Doug, and Carl for a great event.
Sleeps until a mini?

Ched on October 4, 2015 10:05 PM
I really enjoyed seeing so many of our class. It iis remarkable that we all remain so close after all these  years.  I seems as  though we never left and its 1960 again !!
A  special thanks  to all of the people  who worked so hard to make it possible ...Darla, Patty, Myron. Doug Tracy and others.

Mike Murphy on October 5, 2015 10:07 AM
Great Reunion! Thanks to all the reunion comittee, they did a fine job and especially to Doug and Carl who go the extra mile. Also Tracy held a moving memorial service for so/too many of our departed classmates.

Pete moved & everyone voted to hold another 5 yr in October of 2010 at Pipestem. 

Has anyone seen Curly, he and Dottie were giving dance lessons. Curly where do you get the energy? it would have killed me.

Carol - Missed you at reunion, hope the flood is not affecting you guys?

Keep the Faith


Tracy French on October 6, 2015 3:36 PM
I cannot say enough about the reunion.  It was great.  I wish we could have spent a week together.  Maybe we ought to consider a cruise sometime. 

I remember from Knob School that sometimes the teacher would allow Carl Thomason to play the madelin and sing and also Jimmy Hatcher to play some of his "boogies" on the piano.  Those are very fond memories for me and over the years I have thought of them a lot.  I wonder, since it happened so seldom, was Carl and Jimmy being disciplined when they done it or was it for our enjoyment?  I know for me it was always go to Mr. Bailey's office for 1, 2 or 3 licks depending on the infraction.

I had laser surgery on my vocal cords yesterday in Winston Salem and I go back in February for 1 more treatment.  I don't talk so well today and that seems to make my wife happy.  She gets tired of hearing me say "what did you say" and I get tired of hearing her say "put yur hearing aids in."
Carl on October 6, 2015 4:18 PM
I'm with you Tracy in saying that it was a mighty fine reunion.
Doug just sent me the group photo from Saturday night.  I've captioned it and posted it to the "Reunions" page of this website.

Those who attended Friday but not Saturday -- thus, not in the photo -- include Paul Baker, Emma Davis Johnston, Ginger Goings Clower & Jerry Smith.

I had lots of fun -- amongst the other stuff -- assembling the 2015 Reunion Book.  Sorry for any errors and omissions.  Thanks to Brenda Martin Sword for photos of the Knob School "missing years" and to Mike Murphy for his pic of the Glenwood School softball team.  And the cover collage would not have been possible except for Jerry Wizon's 1960 Yearbook scans.  Let's thank GWiz for that.
Carol on October 6, 2015 9:01 PM
So thankful for a safe and fun gathering for classmates last weekend.  I thought about you all as we were trying to stay dry.  Fortunately, it wasn't nearly so bad for us as in the lower part of the state.  

Mike, I missed you all too. I'm sure you, Jeff, Neil and I would have enjoyed sharing Montgomery memories.  We did not attend the Bluefield reunion this year. It is difficult to attend one and not the other...   Plus,  when I saw  that the date of our reunion was the same as Notre Dame/Clemson game, I knew if I attended the reunion, I would have to go alone.  Clemson had not played Notre Dame since 1977 and we were at that game.  Joe Montana was QB then...  

Brenda (Martin) stated after the 50th reunion that we had the "best class ever."  I think she is right!

Fredrick Lucas on October 7, 2015 7:26 AM
As I watched the news of the flooding in South Carolina, I thought of my cousin Bill Booth who is a lawyer in Columbia. I can only hope that he and his family are safe.

Carol it has been reported that when hurricane Sandy hit New Jersey, Senator Graham voted against federal funding. The measure passed 62-36.He was one of the 36. Now suddenly, he wants federal funding for his state to help with flood relief. Fred
Carl on October 7, 2015 9:21 AM
J. Fred, knowing that you continually seek the facts and the truth, here's Sen. Graham's explanation for his vote against the Hurricane Sandy relief bill:
"The Hurricane Sandy package was $60 billion.  Forty-seven states got community development funding.  They repaired Amtrak corridors unaffected by Sandy.  It was a pork-fest.  [emphasis added]  We had a $24 billion alternative that was focused on Sandy."
The other 35 senators who voted against the bill may have done so for the same reason.
Fredrick Lucas on October 7, 2015 5:34 PM

According to the Washington Post, Governor Christie was sitting in Trenton. He needed federal funds to help tesidents of his state cope with the hurricane. The vote was to fund 9.7 billion dollars for relief. The vote was 62 to 36. Graham was in the opposing camp. This move created a division between Graham and Christie. Graham told Wolf Blitzer that he didn't remember the vote concerning hurricane Sandy

Rob Portman of Ohio was one of the 36 no votes. Since he is running for reelection, I wrote to him and asked why he voted no.  I checked with my cousin in Columbia SC who told me that he lives in the western section. They got rain but no flooding. In the eastern section, several man made lakes were built. They built earthen dams which didn't hold and flooding resulted. The television stations have suspended regular programming in favor of providing coverage of the efforts being made to cope with the flooding.
Mike Murphy on October 7, 2015 6:48 PM
Cookie - Missed you at the Reunion. Did you have any storm damage?

Keep the Faith
Carl on October 7, 2015 9:45 PM
Let's see, Fred: a $60 billion storm relief bill was to provide NJ $9.7 billion according to your own figure -- that's 16 cents on the dollar.  And your position is that it was irresponsible for Graham (and 35 other senators) to oppose that.  Am I following your argument correctly? 
Fredrick Lucas on October 8, 2015 10:01 AM

I did not take a position regarding what Senator Graham did or failed to do. I reported what happened. I am the messenger only 
Pete Stephenson on October 8, 2015 10:04 AM
Pete here  getting away from the politics for a few minutes.Linda and I had a wonderful time at the reunion.It was good to see all of you that attended.Everything that the planning group did turned out great.Thanks to all that worked so hard for this event.A special thanks to Carl and Myron for the time spent on this task.Also Patty,Darla,Barbra,Brenda,Tracy and all the others that helped.I pray that we all can come together in 2020.We are for sure a special group from a special place.I pray that we all can get along and leave the politics to other sites.Faith.Hope and love.
Ched on October 9, 2015 3:25 PM
Why dont our legislators jus advance bill  with a  single issue. All of   the "pork"  and other  stuff  that gets tacked on just  dooms good  bills  to failure. An example is  the bill  known as " Kates Law"  the buffoons have  added on  to that bill, the "defunding of  sanctuary cities" . I  certainly  support  defunding  sanctuary cities but  combined neither  will pass !!!!
Ched on October 9, 2015 3:19 PM
Tracy, Your point  about  the  wife getting  tired of me  saying " what  did you say" and  rerminding  me  to put my hearing  aids in is  familiar  to us  !!!

Lorraine Fowlkes on October 9, 2015 6:20 PM
My husband and I really enjoyed the class reunion. It was great seeing classmates, and catching up. A big thanks to everyone who worked so diligently to make our reunion such an enjoyable event (you know who you are). We drove back to S.C. on Sunday, and probably should have stayed in West Virginia a few more days as we had to forge thru 4 flash flood areas starting around Marion, S.C. only to find both entrances into the community we live in flooded. Parked barely inside and started to walk to our house when a nice young couple in an enormous truck asked if they could take  us right to our front door.  They had been riding around to see if they could help anyone.We so appreciated it.  Of course once we got in we were stranded for two days.  Luckly no water around our house. We have actually sold a couple of houses during this mess. Take care everyone!

Mike Murphy on October 10, 2015 12:53 PM
Lorraine - Good to see the Glenwood Gals. Hope you are still safe from the 1000yr floods.

Pete - You should have corrected me on your motion at the reunion, I said 2010 it should have been 2020! 

Ched - I think we should throw all the bums out, especially our King! The racist-machonistic media is really going after Carson and Fieorina.

Geno - Missed you at the Reunion -are you OK?

Keep the Faith

Lorraine Fowlkes on October 11, 2015 6:12 PM
Thank you, Mike.  It was good seeing you too. Love the reunions.

Things are o.k. at my house, but some of the rivers are cresting now, and I did have to change my route to work. Some areas are just now flooding.

Shaftesbury Glen where I sell from a model did not have any water problems either.  We have sold several houses during this time.  Guess it's a good time for people to look at property as they would certainlly know if there are any flooding problems.

Take care.
Becky Novarro on October 12, 2015 1:05 PM
So good to see all of you and that we didn't get stranded. We were lucky, I95 was closed above I26 but then it was clear sailing. Miss being in the cool weather and seeing friends. Jim and I were in Walmart in Naples Saturday and both thought we saw Darla's Johnny. Thanks to all for all the hugs.
Darla on October 12, 2015 6:53 PM
You never know about Johnny!!  Maybe he hid in the trunk of your
Mike Murphy on October 15, 2015 12:25 PM
I feel so much safer knowing that the Libs are going to make climate change their number one objective.

Frost here this morning, to make the foilage magnificenty colorful and kill all the bugs. No snail darters were hurt in the making of this story.

Carl - Your silence is deafining?

Keep the faith
Carl on October 15, 2015 2:50 PM
Joan thinks my silence is my best quality . . . but a very rare one.  Go figure!
Ched on October 16, 2015 5:27 PM
I saw part of  the Democratic "debate". I feel so much better now since foreign policy was not even discussed ( so it must not be important) and  all the "free  stuff" wil be like  Christmas year  round !!!! ?????
Mike Murphy on October 17, 2015 12:30 PM
Ched - We will have to go back to work to make enough to pay all the taxes needed to pay for all the goodies. I can't believe that they were not asked how they planned to pay for all of it. Take it from the dasterdly rich?

Everyone should watch Megan Kelly's Interview of John Koch. Dems will go to any lengths to divide and concor? I found him to be admirable instead of the boogie man.

Keep the Faith

Fredrick Lucas on October 17, 2015 5:43 PM
For those who are interested, The Bluefield Telegraph announced that all displaced coal miners will be eligible for retraining in other occupations.

Don Blankenship the Republican owner of the mine where 29 miners were killed is on trial because the company that he headed didn't follow established safety procedures.

Concerning football so far this year, two high school players have died. A school district in Missouri abolished the program. Participation in the Pop Warner program has declined by three percent. In my area, a number of the better athlets in the Oak Hills School District have decided to play LaCross. The football team has won only one game. Fred
Cookie on October 17, 2015 8:30 PM
Oh My God!  I thought Halloween was October 31.  The darkness and gloom is killing me.  
Lets see:  Not one "gutter" word.  
Mike Murphy on October 18, 2015 10:06 AM
Cookie- Your former Gov & Mayor of Baltimore City is really making a splash. Reminds me of a local who ran for an office and was beat by a dead person whose name had not been removed from the ballot. Fortunately it was a multipe candidate race so their were clear winners.

Carol - What is happening with Sen Graham?

Geno - Any words of wisdom?

Tom - Any thoughts on how to reduce the number of mentally ill from mass shootings?

I have some people to nominate for retraining, but not sure they meet min standards?

Keep the faith

Ched on October 18, 2015 10:09 AM
Retraining of  displaced miners  sounds good on the  surface but  retrained  for  what? Many of  the other jobs and businesses in southern W V are supported by  coal.
 Many will not have prerequisite education, skills or other  factors to be  retrained into good jobs.
Fredrick Lucas on October 18, 2015 5:45 PM
Ched, Why don't you research the types of training offered and the people who are taking the training?

One of my friends who is a retired social worker and a woman told me that she believes in a woman's right to choose. Your job in procreation is over in ten minutes. She had to carry her children for nine months with all of the problems associated with that. She will make whatever decision is necessary. The onus will be on her.

Abortion is permitted to save the life of the woman, incest and rape.Planned Parenthood of Hamilton County recently held a fund raiser. Five hundred people donated money. Some were wealthy women. Fred
Ched on October 18, 2015 6:50 PM
Fred,  you completely missed my point. I did not say that no one  could be retrained. And I certainly said nothing  about abortion, a womans right  to  choose whether  to kill an unborn child or not nor Planned Parenthood.
Cookie on October 18, 2015 9:21 PM
I wanted to respond but there are JUST NO WORDS!!!!!!  Instad I'm gonna go make a tomato sandwich and have a big ole glass of sweet tea.  It makes more sense.  
Is "sweet tea" a "gutter" word??????????????????????

Carl on October 19, 2015 11:36 AM
   No, this has nothing to do with the retraining, purely personal decision and laudatory Planned Parenthood discussion.  It simply announces a time-out on my part.
   Getting a knee replacement in my "other" leg tomorrow, so will be out of commission for a while.  Funny thing tho', I don't really remember ever being in commission.  Oh well.  Hold a kind thought while I'm away.      
Carl on October 19, 2015 11:40 AM
But before I go, one last piece of PHS60 business.
Upcoming birthdays -- only ONE in my list for all of October:

Wil Wilhelm - October 24
Stan Hill - November 5
Fred Lucas - November 7
Gene Law - November 15
Raymond Kidwell - November 20
Delores "Cookie" Hill Brown - November 21
Patty Baker Anderson - November 24
Rick Swope - November 24

Mike Murphy on October 19, 2015 1:09 PM
Happy Birthday everyone!

Carl - Good luck on your surgery = are you the bees knees!

Cookie - I am reminded of Brother Dave Garners saying as you reflect on the Fredalogues - They are like eating a stewed tomato sandwich, you must lift and eat quickly lest the tomatoes (or other fred stuff) fall through the crust! Bless his little heart?

Keep the faith
Ched on October 19, 2015 5:29 PM
Happy Birthday to each one of  you !!!!

 CArl,  Hope  your  surgery  goes  well !!!
Thomas Dillon on October 20, 2015 11:50 AM
Does one say "Break a Leg"? Wishing you well and a speedy recovery.
Mike Murphy on October 23, 2015 7:20 PM
Carl - How is the Knee?
Mike Murphy on October 26, 2015 1:18 PM
WVU did not lose this wknd. They play TCU Thurs Night.

How are the Princeton Tigers doing? 

Beautiful foilage here.

To all who are ailing or recuperating - Get Well Soon!

Keep the Faith
Fredrick Lucas on October 27, 2015 5:44 PM
Training programs for displaced miners are found in the literature of the West Virginia Workforce Development. 

I hope that our classmates in Texas and California have survived the flooding that has taken place in those states. We continue to have rain.

I continue to workout at the Mercy Healthplex gym. Our facility is located next to the hospital which is being torn down after thirty five years of service. A new facility was built five miles away from the old hospital.

Carl best wishes for a successful surgery experience. I work out with a man who is 94 years old. Today he walked three niles around the indoor track. I walked a mile and one half and did two miles on the eliptical machine.

Mike what is your exercise report? Fred
Carol on October 27, 2015 10:47 PM
Carl, hope your surgery went well. Neil is scheduled in December. Mike, Lindsey Graham is like a toothache that we cannot get rid of. I think he got a lot of money from the Chamber of Commerce etc. I love it when Trump ridicules him. One of Lindsey's democrat opponents once said that Lindsey "stands a little high in his loafers." Anyway, rumor is that he wants to be Sec. Of Defense. BTW, Trump is supposed to be in town next month.
Fredrick Lucas on October 28, 2015 5:41 AM
Ched, At one time you said that abortion was murder. I wanted to give you a woman's perspective on the subject.

Regarding football, that wasn't directed to you. CNN reported that the seventh high school player died this past week.  Fred
Fredrick Lucas on October 28, 2015 5:51 PM
I thought that I would take a minute to talk about a problem a Cincinnati woman had in Ohio. Ohio law allows an abortion up to 24 weeks. The Cincinnati woman learned in the 23rd week that her baby would be still born if she carried it to term. She couldn't get an appointment with the two abortion providers in Ohio who do late term abortions. She got an appointment with a provider in Chicago who took care of the problem. The trip and abortion cost the couple $3000.

The Ohio legislature wants to cut the time for abortions to 20 weeks. Fred
Fredrick Lucas on October 28, 2015 5:51 PM
I thought that I would take a minute to talk about a problem a Cincinnati woman had in Ohio. Ohio law allows an abortion up to 24 weeks. The Cincinnati woman learned in the 23rd week that her baby would be still born if she carried it to term. She couldn't get an appointment with the two abortion providers in Ohio who do late term abortions. She got an appointment with a provider in Chicago who took care of the problem. The trip and abortion cost the couple $3000.

The Ohio legislature wants to cut the time for abortions to 20 weeks. Fred
Cookie on October 28, 2015 11:16 PM
Its raining in Maryland so I don't know but bviously there is a full moon someplace in middle America.  
Mike Murphy on October 29, 2015 12:35 PM
Carol- Lively debate last eve - Lindsey did well at little kids table on foriegn affairs.

Fred- I usually spend 15 min on eleptical 4-5 times a week, need to double it? Bye the way when did you get pregnant and did you have the help of planned parenthoode? Need to make up your mind before 3rd trimester?

Keep the Faith
Carol on October 31, 2015 6:26 AM
Approximately 20 years ago in Georgia a young woman went to a clinic for an abortion. She was told that she should have come in 2 weeks earlier that they could not help her. A pastor (Mike Hamlett) and his wife in South Carolina had been praying for a baby and were overjoyed to adopt this beautiful baby girl just after her birth. This young lady has now finished college and is married. I heard her testimony when she was still a teenager. Enough said!
Carol on October 31, 2015 6:28 AM
correction -- that should have been 25 years ago in Georgia.
Mike Murphy on October 31, 2015 9:26 PM
Happy Hallows Eve!

Keep the faith

Tracy French on October 31, 2015 9:32 PM
Fred:  Ched is correct, abortion is murder.  I see no difference  in the way the Cincinnati woman aborted her child than the Smith woman who a few years ago aborted her children by driving into a lake with them strapped in baby seats.

The Cincinnati woman may have missed the opportunity of a lifetime to witness a miracle of God by aborting the child.  Perhaps it was Divine intervention that she could not get an appointment at one of the abortion clinics in Ohio.

God many times will thwart our attempts to do things contrary to His will.  But if we insist, He will eventually allow us to have our way.
Fredrick Lucas on November 1, 2015 1:28 PM

It appears that we have a different perspective. The woman that I spoke about, had physicians in Cincinnati and Chicago check the baby to determine the problem. There was a problem with the spinal development. It was determined that the baby wouldn't survive. The husband agreed with his wife to have the abortion which she did. End of story. This was publicized in the Cincinnati Enquirer.

You might be interested to know that no Planned Parenthood facility exists in Mercer County. The nearest one is in Blacksburg. The treatments offered to poor women would be difficult for poor women who lack transportation.  
Delores on November 1, 2015 5:05 PM
Wasn't Obamacare supposed to solve ALL our healthcare issues.

I'll just throw this out here.........

Before you endorse abortion on demand, have a talk with my retired nurse friend and let her explain the procedure along with a graphic explanation of the partial birth abortion process.  

Tracy French on November 1, 2015 8:36 PM
Fred:  I searched the Enquirer on the web and was unable to find the article about the Cincinnati woman.  If you have access to it I would like to read it.

As I understand it, during a partial birth abortion, the child is turned in the womb then the physican pushes a pair of scissors into the head and then opens them in order to kill the baby.  Then the child is delivered and there have been cases where the child was still alive after the delivery.  Sometimes the baby is delivered in pieces because it is the only way it can be removed from the womb.

A few years ago I went to the YouTube web site and googled "abortion" and was able to watch an abortion where the child was removed from the womb in pieces.  I did not look tonight to see if YouTube still has it available but I am quite certain you could find one if you looked but I would strongly advise that you not watch the video.`

Tracy French on November 1, 2015 8:39 PM
Don't know what happened above but it's readable.
Delores on November 1, 2015 10:47 PM
Yes Tracy!  That is the procedure as she explained to me but with detailed descriptions of her experiences.  This eventually prompted her to transfer to another section of healthcare services.

Anyone who questions the validity of the recent videos is promoting falsehoods in support of their liberal agenda which is pure and simply murder of the defenseless and most helpless among us. This makes us as a nation no better than the laboratories and torture chambers of World War II Germany.  
Personally, I thank my mother that she choose life.
Fredrick Lucas on November 2, 2015 8:59 AM

I am not going to discuss this case with you. You are not a licenced physician. You were not on the case . The woman got the abortion.

Fredrick Lucas on November 2, 2015 9:19 AM
The Gannet Company owns USA TODAY and the Cincinnati Enquirer. The USA Today 10-28-15 discussed the case. The facility in Dayton did the test and told the woman that the child had a severe spinal abnormality and would not survive. The woman could have carried this baby to term and see that it was sill born or she could have an abortion.  She had it done in Chicago because the Dayton facility didn't have an appointment.

Since you aren't a licenced physician I won't discuss this case. Fred
Delores on November 2, 2015 9:30 AM
It appears that we of the Class of 60 should be concerned as we are all in the crosshairs.  Now that the murder of babies and the harvesting of "baby parts" is acceptable can OLD PEOPLE be far behind.  Elderly sick people are just sucking up all the resources and will soon become expendible as well.  

And while I'm at it I find it incomprehensible that colorful language is offensive but murder is not.
Ched on November 2, 2015 11:55 AM
Thanks  Cookie,
 You put things in perspective  so well.  I guess  since  we are not physicians we cannot embrace  the very real fact  that a human embryo is a human life  and  should be  respected as  such. I still have  the belief  that  to abort a viable fetus is wrong  and is infanticide. There are so many folks  willing  to  adopt babies  that the birth mother may not  want  to keep or  raise. I cannot fathom how  anyone  can condone the horrors of late  term/ partial birth abortions or  the  activities shown on the PP videos. I have no isues  with PP providing health screenings  and  contrception assistance  to  women but not  tyhe other  stuff !!!
Delores on November 2, 2015 12:02 PM
Thanks Ched for a word of encouragement.  Sometimes I feel like a voice alone in the wilderness.  

Tracy French on November 2, 2015 12:12 PM
Fred:  My sister Dorothy was diagnosed with cancer by a licensed physican severl years ago and was told to go home and get her things in order and enjoy the last few days of life rather than take any treatments which would make her life miserable the last few days she lived.

My sister chose to get a second opinion and to make a long story short, before she died last December 7th she was cancer free for more than 15 years.  She acknowledged the work of many licensed physicans (and nurses, technicians, etc) who worked on her but the credit for saving her life went to God for answering the many prayers that went up on her behalf.

Fred, prayer is a powerful thing and it only takes a little faith (even smaller than a mustard seed) to believe that God will answer.  You have seen even on this blog the areas of the country and the people that have prayed for me and my wife.   Four years ago my wife was in intensive care for 32 days in a coma, 10 of those days she was not expected to live.  Since then she has had seven major surgeries, one and possibly two major strokes, numerous hospitilizations, an emergency helicopter ride to Roanoke and a failed mesh and a hip replacement.  Today she is still recovering but she is now able to do minor housework and fix her own food most of the time.  You were one of the ones who prayed for her and I thank you for that.  I thank you and everyone who prayed for us because we could not have made it without you.

Tracy French on November 2, 2015 12:20 PM
<span 0);"="" 0,="" rgb(0,="">Cookie:  I'm glad my mother chose life too.  And I'm really glad my wife chose life and I'm really, really, reallllly glad my daughter chose life.  It's been expensive but well worth the cost!
Delores on November 2, 2015 1:34 PM
You never cease to amaze me and are truly an inspiration.  Thank you for your post.  
Fredrick Lucas on November 2, 2015 7:07 PM
Am I the only one to demonstrate compassion for the young woman? She hasn't been prosecuted for the abortion. Since none of you showed compassion or empathy for the young woman, you can be seen as ideologues which liberal or conservative are the most dangerous type.

As I recall you all thought that the video which was a clear distortion of the truth about Planned Parenthood was alright. Fred
Fredrick Lucas on November 2, 2015 7:07 PM
Am I the only one to demonstrate compassion for the young woman? She hasn't been prosecuted for the abortion. Since none of you showed compassion or empathy for the young woman, you can be seen as ideologues which liberal or conservative are the most dangerous type.

As I recall you all thought that the video which was a clear distortion of the truth about Planned Parenthood was alright. Fred
Fredrick Lucas on November 2, 2015 7:28 PM
The young woman in question has a name . It is Sheva Guy and she is a doctoral student.

Ched on November 3, 2015 12:07 PM
The Planned Parrenthood  videos ( and  there are  several ) speak for  themselves.  There is no denying that  they were guilty os  selling fetal tissue  and body parts.  The expert analysis of  the recordings reported  that the recordings  were not  edited  for "effect". I do not  aprove of  abortion but it is pernitted under  the laws ( with  certain stipulation). However  the  sale of  the fetal tissue is  completely wrong

Tracy French on November 2, 2015 7:52 PM
Fred:  I don't condem the young lady for having an abortion.  The blame lies within the society in which we live.  The young lady obviously needs a lot of love and compassion during this time and no one should be pointing the finger directly at her.  I noticed that her husband and his parents accompanied her to the abortion clinic.  I wonder where her parents were, I pray that they too show compassion.

Cookie on November 2, 2015 9:27 PM
Please do not judge my compassion.  I wrote the book on compassion.  I raised two children alone and have helped to raise two grandchildren.   It required compassion, faith, fortitude, determination, will power, prayer, and COMMON SENSE.  The latter of which is usually missing in these posts.
I'm gonna go make a meatloaf sandwich and stick some pins in that vodoo doll I have downstairs.
Carl on November 3, 2015 11:41 AM
Ouch!!!   PLEASE, use the other doll.
Mike Murphy on November 3, 2015 12:29 PM
Welcome back hopalong Carl, just kidding, hope you are recuperating well.

Paid $1.72 per gal for gas at Ripley (they are having a gas war).  The Libs got started too late on demonizing fracking, so we may get energy independance in spite of their efforts. What ever happened to Obamas clean coal technology?

Fred - you seem to trust Media Matters more than your own eyes on the late term fetal tissue videos? PP is a joke especially when they take Fed tax money and then contribute to the Democrat party?? Let PP stand on its own.

How about that Ben Carson?

Keep the Faith
Ched on November 4, 2015 11:51 AM
Mike ,
 "right on" !!!
 Ben Carson is an amazing man as  well as  a genuinely fine human being. His rise in the polls is  surprising  to me considering his soft  spoken  style. 
 PP is undeserving of  federal aid!!!

Tracy French on November 4, 2015 3:45 PM
I am sorry to inform you that Matthew King's obituary was in todays edition of the Bluefield Daily Telegraph.  The obit reports that his life was taken December 4, 2014 at the age of 72 in Jacksonville, FL where he was living.

Carl on November 5, 2015 9:32 AM
And with great sadness I report the death of "Scotty" Walter Scott Reid yesterday morning.  Scott was a proud member of the PHS family.  I didn't really come to know him until the 1980s, but quickly came to like and respect him.  Health problems troubled him for years, and increasingly in recent ones.  His determination to attend the 50-year reunion in 2010, despite pain and discomfort, was moving.  R.I.P., Scott.
Ched on November 5, 2015 4:27 PM
I new  "Scotty"  well. He  and I were in grade school together.  I knew he had battled  health problems in the  recent  years and  am saddened  to learn of his passing
Pete Stephenson on November 5, 2015 4:44 PM
Pete here.So sorry to hear of Scott Reids passing.I first met Scotty in 1952 in the 5th grade at Mercer.Scott was always very cordial to everyone he met.Rest in peace my friend.Mike,Ched just heard on fox that mr Trump is carring 42% of votes on his stance for the economy.Mr carson doing quite well also.Faith,Hope and love my brothers and sisters.Please also prayers for Harry Fields,husband of Barbara Calfee,Harry had stroke yesterday morning.Transported to Roanoke yesterday afternoon.For those of you that don't know Harry,he's Gene Fields older bro.
Fredrick Lucas on November 7, 2015 2:55 AM
I was sad to learn of the deaths of Matthew King and Scotty Reid. I would like to offer condolences to their families. 

Scotty really enjoyed making music. As I recall, he enjoyed playing the trombone. He also enjoyed his family. Fred
Fredrick Lucas on November 7, 2015 3:07 AM
I would like to wish Barbara Fields my best wishes as she helps and encourages Harry in his rehabilitation efforts.I want to offer encouragement to Harry as he begins rehabilitation

Regarding the rest of us, let's watch our diets, get to the fitness center and have an active social and spiritual life. Fred

Fredrick Lucas on November 7, 2015 3:52 PM
Mike regarding the edited video, no Planned Parenthood official has been tried for a crime as a result of the video.Since 54% of Americans support the organization, Congress has decided not to fight funding.  I spoke to an official here who told me about all of the services available to help women in need. 

Why don't you elaborate on your objections to the organization? Fred
Mike Murphy on November 7, 2015 4:43 PM
Fred - The videos were edited but not altered as you imply. The Videos clearly showed that PP officials were altering late term abortion procedures to obtain living fetal tissue including brains. PP brought suit against the producers of the videos - why haven't they been convicted? PP recently announced that they will no longer sell fetal tissue, which is an admission that they did sell the tissue! With the current Justice department no Liberal democrat will be prosecuted. Just look at Hillary Clinton vs General Petras and Lois Lerner and Fast and furious.

The majority of americans were against the PP Harvesting of living body parts and tissue as illustrated by the unaltered videos. 

Further are you in favor of agencies getting federal funds giving political contributions and for late term abortions for any cause?

Carol on November 7, 2015 7:52 PM
I lost a friend and went to her funeral yesterday and then met Neil at the Beacon because Congressmen Mulvaney and Gowdy were there with Senator Paul. 

 Last night I read that we had lost two classmates.  I am saddened by our many losses and pray for families left behind as well as Barbara And Harry Fields.  Thanks to those who who strive to keep us updated and may we continue to share a bond of love.

Mike Murphy on November 8, 2015 12:07 PM
Carol- I echo your sentiments about our classmates and hope and pray they get better.

Happy early Veterans day to all especially Carl, Tracy and Pete!

The last Time I saw Mathew King was at the Waffle House in Princeton in late 70s. He was showing me a pistol that he was carying. I am sure it was to impress rather than scare. He was a year behind us but his dad ran the grocery store at Glenwood so I knew him fairly well. Tracy you said he was "taken" any clarification? Also why do such good "folks" like Barbara and Harry and your wife have to suffer?

Keep the Faith

Ched on November 8, 2015 5:03 PM
I went to see our( Hendersonville TN) veteran's day parade. It  was moving to say the least. One parade marcher  was  a wounded vet in a  chair  with his  service  dog at  his  side. A loud  cheer  went up  for him  with folks yelling " thank you.".  The  Sumner County Republcans  also had   tho  floats  with som of our  representatives on board.  The  Dems were no where  to be  seen !!!!

Tracy French on November 8, 2015 6:09 PM
Pete:  I was thinking Matthew King was in our class when we started high school.  I googled his name and Jacksonville newspaper and was able to read about what happened to him.

He went missing and the Jacksonville Police Departmment was able to go back and trace the movements of an employee of Matthew's because he was on parole and wearing an ankel monitor.  the JPD began tracing the movements from the day he disapeared and they located him in a shallow grave and determined from a pace maker that Matthew was wearing that he had been killed on December 4, 2014 and also that he had died of suffocation.

Since Matthew was found in July I was amazed that the police department had that capableity to make those determinations.  Who would have thought the day of death and the cause could be determined by a pace maker?

Cookie on November 8, 2015 6:43 PM
Matthew was in our class.  I grew up with him and we started first grade together at Mercer.  They lived just out the road from us at the Greentree in what was then called the Thornton Homes--now home of Andy Clark Motors.  

Tracy French on November 8, 2015 7:33 PM
Mike:  I meant the last comment for you instead of Pete.  That's not the first mistake I've made but I can't remember when I made the other one.

Tracy French on November 8, 2015 7:39 PM
Cookie:  Thanks for letting us know about Matthew.  I had not heard from him since high school and I had wondered where he gone after we left school.  I noticed in the obituary that he was a brother in law to Jerry Dove and that his father was Clyde, I was acquainted with both of them but did not know the relationship. 
Mike Murphy on November 9, 2015 12:54 PM
Tracy - Thanks for the clarification on Matthew, who appears in the 1959 Annual as a Junior and is absent from 1960. I never had any classes with Matthew, but my rememberance of talking to him and Clyde his father, was that he was behind me one grade,but it looks as though I am wrong? 

Carl - Need Medical & Psychological report on your Knee. Perhaps you can get MD Kidwell to verify Psyc?

Keep the Faith

Fredrick Lucas on November 9, 2015 10:17 PM
Veterans Day will be on November 11. I would like to thank all of the veterans in our class for their service. Thanksgiving will arrive soon and I would like to wish all a happy Thanksgiving. Fred
Carl on November 10, 2015 2:36 PM
Murph, knee replacement was 3 weeks ago today.  Rehab seems to be coming along on schedule; I still have swelling, bruising and pain, but have seen slow, somewhat steady progress.  At least my physical therapist seems pleased with my progress.  Probably looking at another 2-3 weeks before all of that has disappeared, then on with the rest of rehab [i.e., more and harder exercises].  Thank goodness for modern medicine.
   I'm pretty sure that Dr. Kidwell wrote me off many years ago as an "analyzable" psych candidate.  I believe that may be the secret to our long, close friendship.
Fredrick Lucas on November 10, 2015 9:07 PM
Those who are graduates of West Virginia Uuiversity might like to know that Steve Douglas Alumni Director has brain cancer. He has been involved in the Alumni Association for 29 years.

There is an article in the West Virginia University magazine this month outlining research into strokes. The researchers want to understand the nature of the stroke and the types of strokes that people get. There is  also a team at the WVU hospital who provide rehabilitation for those who have strokes.
 In addition there is also a support group of people who have experienced a stroke.
Fredrick Lucas on November 10, 2015 9:07 PM
Those who are graduates of West Virginia Uuiversity might like to know that Steve Douglas Alumni Director has brain cancer. He has been involved in the Alumni Association for 29 years.

There is an article in the West Virginia University magazine this month outlining research into strokes. The researchers want to understand the nature of the stroke and the types of strokes that people get. There is  also a team at the WVU hospital who provide rehabilitation for those who have strokes.
 In addition there is also a support group of people who have experienced a stroke.
Delores on November 11, 2015 10:09 AM
November 11
Thanking my father and all my family who served and fought to perserve our freedoms.  Let us never forget!
To my classmate who served I thank you and may God bless each of you.  

THOMAS DILLON on November 11, 2015 10:44 AM
Hoping that you will forgive me for any breach of patient confidentiality since we are amongst friends, however,  given my observations over the years, I must concur with Dr. Kidwell's analysis of Sir Carl and the resultant diagnosis and prognosis -- hey, you win some and lose some.
Thanks to all of you who served your country and all of us. Have a great day.
Love you
Carl on November 11, 2015 1:52 PM
Ahhhh, yet again the warm and comforting assurance of a confirmatory 2nd opinion.  Thanks Tom.
Fredrick Lucas on November 11, 2015 8:18 PM
Regarding strokes, the article statad that"Stroke is the number 5 killer in West Virginia with more than 1000 deaths annually.Considering the population's general poor health attributes{higher than average smoking, obesity, sedentary life style} stroke cases and fatilities will continue to rise.

On average three or four people daily are rushed to WVU Hospitals with stroke symptoms."

Now it is time for me to introduce another topic for discussion. What should be done about those who are elderly and drive. I spoke with a retired Cincinnati Police Officer. He was in charge of the hit skip unit. He explained that in a number of cases the elderly were involved in hit skip cases. He suggested that everyone who turns 80 should be required to take a driving test and pass 
Cookie on November 11, 2015 8:37 PM
I'm going to die of a stroke due to my West Virginia heritage and all those bad habits I learned in Princeton.
Planned Parenthood is going to force me into aborting this baby I'm carrying.
Now you are going to make me take a driver's test when I'm  80.

Not if I pull out this gun I have under the front seat and shoot you first.
"Some call it gutter words!  I call it sentence enhancers."
Fredrick Lucas on November 11, 2015 10:05 PM
Is your post the way the cookie crumbles? Fred
Cookie on November 11, 2015 10:19 PM
The cookie does not crumble.  She is from West Virginia.  "Harpo!  As God is my witness, I been fightin' my whole life..............."

Unlike some posts, that post was made in jest and not meant to offend or be insensitive.  With that said the constant attacks on the state and the people I love and who have sustained me throughout my life are offensive.

The only thing under the front seat of my car is an empty liquor bottle in a "poke."

Have a good evening.  

Edward Laufer on November 11, 2015 10:32 PM
I want to say a few words about our dear friend Scotty Reid who passed away last week from pulmonary fibrosis.

Scotty and I were the best of buddies living directly across from each other on Walnut Street beginning in grade school through high school. Whether it was Scotty and Sammy Goodall pulling me out of the Mercer School fish pond; having great times in the Boy Scouts [Scotty was an Eagle Scout]; cruising Mercer Street; or (as teenagers) taking a Greyhound bus all the way from Princeton down to Key West to visit his uncle and aunt and while down there going way west into the Gulf in his uncle's boat and tying up at night on an uninhabited island with other members of his uncle's boat club to fish at night (particularly for sharks); to having Scotty over to our house so many times that he became part of the  family.

In later years, keeping in close contact with Scotty and Margie with Sandy and myself hooking up this way or much more often in that warm Florida climate { on one time Scotty who worked for one of the major defense contractors invited us down to see one of the early space shots where my dad my brother and I went down and we viewed this from a special viewing area at the Cape] or at the many class reunions we were always in contact. I could go on and on. There were many, many happy times and friendships like this are very special and we are certain that there are many such friendships in our class.

Sandy and I will think of the of the many happy times we had and how lucky we were that  Scotty was our friend.  We will miss him very much.
Ched on November 12, 2015 2:54 PM
A  very nice  tribute  to Scotty. 

Tracy French on November 12, 2015 11:55 AM
Fred:  If we can hold onto our license until we get to 90 technology may have us moving at the speed of thought making automobiles and drivers license obselete.  In the meantime I have already limited my night driving to only what is necessary.

Ed:  Do you remember when I "hooked" Scotty at Camp Roland?  He was coming in the door as I was going out the door with my fishing rod in my hand and I hooked him in the mouth.

Cookie:  Do you have to have a weapons permit to carry an empty liquor bottle in the car?  I have seen full or partially empty liqour bottles used as weapons in the movies but never an empty one.  By the way, what happened to the liquor that was in your bottle?
Cookie on November 12, 2015 12:01 PM
I saw this on TV during one of the scandal hearings.  If really "important" people can use this defense it should be good enough for me.  
"I refuse to answer on the grounds ........................................
Mike Murphy on November 13, 2015 12:21 PM
Carol - What do you and Neil think about the recent student "rights" dust ups on campus? Mizzu needs Leonard Nelson to handle, like he did with the Iranian students at WVIT! Bless the cup cakes' liberal bleeding hearts?

Fred - Read anything interesting in the Huffington Post Lately?

Keep the Faith

Carl on November 14, 2015 11:14 AM
Mea culpa; MEA CULPA!!!
Languishing in my self-absorption, I overlooked the PHS60 November birthdays.  Here are the one's that I'm aware of:

Stan Hill - November 5
Fred Lucas - November 7
Gene Law - November 15
Raymond Kidwell - November 20
Delores "Cookie" Hill Brown - November 21
Patty Baker Anderson - November 24
Sorry Stan & Fred.  Hope your's were happy ones.
HAPPY BIRTHDAY to the rest.

Mike Murphy on November 14, 2015 12:13 PM
Happy Birthday Novemberites!!

What a terrible mess in Paris. I am afraid we will have a similar attack here in USA within next 12 months. Why we can't recognize that Radical Islamic extremists have declared war (Jihad) on us infidels is appaling. We need to anialate them before they get us. Also accepting 200 refeguees from Syria in New Orleans (mostly young male muslims) is crazy!!  I would call for Impeachment if that meant the whole admin was removed and someone like Cruz and or Rubio or Chaney would be put in place, even Rand Paul would do better than current admin? Either get in all the way or get out, war is hell and can't be fought half donkeyed.

Enough ranting - Happy November 
Keep the Faith

Ched on November 14, 2015 5:15 PM
Mike, you are  right on !!!!  We need  to get  these animals off  the  face of the  earth now!!!  Maybe  the  tragedy in Paris  will be  a  wakeup call to someone. The  admin  cannot even say "radical Islam"
Ched on November 14, 2015 5:12 PM
Happy Birthday  all !!!!!

Tracy French on November 14, 2015 6:24 PM
Mike, Ched:  Remember when we went to school and we were taught; "Remember The Alamo" and "Remember Pearl Harbor".  Now we have added "Remember 911".  I doubt if you could find anything in todays school books about The Alamo and maybe not about Pearl Harbor.

Today Isis is looking at the white in our eyes and one shot will send us running.  I believe in the near future we can expect suicide bombers in places like school sporting events, graduations, churches, restaurants, etc.  We are a nation who has placed God on the back burner and it can only get worse until we wake up.
Ched on November 14, 2015 6:55 PM
 You are 100% correct. The war on Christianity  is disturbing to me. Our country was  founded on the principals of God fearing Christian men.    When we went to elementary  school we said  the Pledge of  Aligiance  and  the Lords prayer. No one was harmed on insulted. I think it  did  some  real good  for us  all !!!
Mike Murphy on November 15, 2015 10:32 AM
Hillary announced her solution for ISIS & Alkida - Blame George Bush!

I agree we should have not gone into Iraq when we did and we should have not deposed Kadafi, Mubarak and let Syria settle it's own internal war, but ISIS is growing, it has reps in all 50 or is it 57, BHO, states and not leaving a residual force in Iraq after "winning" the war was criminal!! Also cosying up to Iran for a sensless agreement is more than criminal. What do we not understand about "death to America" and even more so "not God Bless America no no no G D America"??!!

We must eliminate them before they come here and do it swiftly and decisevly!

Maybe Hillary and BHO can love them to death?

Keep the faith

Edward Laufer on November 16, 2015 12:22 AM
To Tracy  and Ched,
Boy Scout Days. Tracy I now remember Scotty getting a fish hook in his mouth when he was leaving
through the door of our cabin at Camp Roland,but even now I did not remember it was your fish hook.
I now remember the scene clearly! And talking about  Camp Roland Ched was famous for giving the name KYBO to the out houses. FAMOUS! One final comment about those boy scout days  . I do not
know if you two were at the camporee up at Flat Top Lake at Joe Lawsons place but I know that a number of our other classmates that were there. Scotty and I had had about enough making tents to sleep on the hard ground, building fires that never cooked the food right and counting the time we will be getting home. Now we are scouts and we are suppose to rough it but Scotty says we are bringing air
mattresses, freezer chests filled with steaks, burgers breakfast food items etc. and portable gas stoves.
Now we were not sure what this would look like to the younger scouts, we were 15 or 16 at the time, but we were concerned what our scout leader, Calvin Roland Sr. would say as though he was a heck 
of a nice guy but I believe was a drill sergeant in the Army . and ran our boy scout troop by the book.
He takes one look at what Scotty and I had brought with us to rough it up as boy scouts should do
and starts to laugh and laugh and says something to the effect , you guys are Eagles do what want to do.
I turn to Scotty and say, thank you Scotty for coming up with this. Best camporee ever!
Carol on November 16, 2015 7:19 AM
Mike, are you aware that there are subcontractors of the UN That are paid to bring "refugees" into our country.  After a few months, these people are able to tap into the system.  Minnesota has been unindated with Somalian Muslims.  While we all want to give humanitarian aid to those who are suffering, the FBI has stated many times that folks coming from war-torn countries cannot be vetted.  Have you noticed that most "refugees" are males and certainly don't look under feed?  We are familiar with this because World Relief is settling into Upstate SC.  We have made numerous calls to elected officials who say the Governor is the only one who can stop this and she supports it.   A mosque has been built outside Greenville, SC, home of BJU, and one of the most conservative cities in the country.
Delores on November 16, 2015 1:57 PM
I watched the prez news conference from Turkey.  I am in disbelief.

Yesterday I thought to myself......floral tributes, the lighting of candles, moments of silence, prayers, multi-colored lights on monuments are all wonderful and have their place.

"My son blew himself up outside the cafe in Paris  because he was stressed."  Whoa! (Drudge Report this morning)

Isn't it time we unleashed our military and say, "Go at it boys."

I've had my fill  of cowards!

Tracy French on November 16, 2015 11:42 AM
Ed:  Those were good days at Camp Roland although I remember coming home "starved to death".  I also remember Ched being able to identify trees by their leaves and I was so impressed with it that I also learned to identify them and taught my son to do the same.  My grandson is now 11 and he can already identify several species of trees by sight.  As for Calvin Roland, I am glad that he crossed my path in life.  When I was drafted in the Army I already knew how to march and respond to cadence.  To this day I love to hear cadence being called and Snoopy and the Red Baron has always been one of my favorite songs because of the cadence used in it.
Ched on November 16, 2015 2:54 PM
I loved  Camp Roland.  The ice  cold  swimming hole on Wolf Creek, learning  the  finer points of  canoeing  and rowing on the "lake" there. I went into  the Order of The  Arrow there  and learned quite  a lot. Our leader  Calvin Roland was a classic and  excellent troop leader.   My dad was  a horticulturist and he  taught me  a lot  about  trees as  well as  the botanical names of  several ( some of  which I can still recall),.
Tom Dillon on November 16, 2015 6:04 PM
Your post above triggered a memory regarding knowledge of trees/plants. I don't remember how the subject came up or where we were, even what year -- a vague picture of  being at your house and you and B. Lambert having ridden horses. You voiced that you had never been allergic to poison ivy and often worked in and around it. To emphasize your point, you took a handful of the plant and rubbed it across your arms, chest, legs, and face. Perhaps even chewed some. We didn't see you for awhile as you did have a significant reaction to the plant including your eyes swelling almost shut and the rash being evidenced all over your body. Never say never.
True story or one of Dillon's dreams?

Fredrick Lucas on November 16, 2015 8:59 PM
I was a member of Explorer Post 66 when I was a stud4nt at PHS. One evening I received a call from our leader Headley Peters to come to the Mercer County jail. It seems that sereral students took some fruit from the food market without paying for it. The sheriff wanted us to tour the jail which we did. We saw the community holding area. The stench was horrible.When we looked at the women in cells, they yelled do you think this is a zoo? In the juvenile lockup, Matther King was behind bars.

None of us wound up behind bars. Fred
Ched on November 17, 2015 9:28 AM
  I do not  recall  the  poision ivy  event.  Either: 
1)  I put it out of my mind  due  to pain an "itch"
2) One of  your vivid  dreams.
Thomas Dillon on November 17, 2015 12:05 PM
Ched, really don't think it was a dream. Others who may remember in addition to Lambert --  Farley, Crawford, George, J. Askew, Coleman, Goins, Becky.
Ched on November 17, 2015 6:47 PM
Maybe  I just  want to forget my foolishness !!!
Mike Murphy on November 17, 2015 12:17 PM
Stories about the Scouts made me remember, a man probably Roland circa 1965 brought a rough sketch of a meeting hall for the Scouts to be built at Wolfe Creek to my Drafting Class for plans to be drawn. It was in an L shape with a 45 degree notched back and a large covered pourch on a similar notch at the intersection of the L in the front. It had a huge fireplace at the rear. It presented two big problems he wanted it to be clear spanned and a huge hearth for the fireplace. Couldn't find a packaged damper system for the fireplace so we proportioned it with a shelf and custom made damper about 8' if I remember correctly. It required steel I beams to support the intersecting A roof on the L. I left Princeton in 1966 to work in Charleston and have woundered if the Meeting Hall was ever built? Does anyone know?

Another tricky fireplace I designed was for Bill Stafford. He had a huge wood mantel from family that he wanted to use on an old fashoned fire place on his house. The renovation of the house was extensive. The four large columns on the front had to be moved forward with the pront pourch being extended and the entire roof replaced. Like many old houses its foundation was large rocks with beams for the sills. A new foundation had to be poured and he reclad with the split block. Quite a renovation, but it is a beautiful home, The next time you drive to Athens look right near the Durr pond to spy. I recall Bill was elected (early 70s?) as a Senator or Delagate to the state legislature and I remember meeting him at a local Capitol watering hole and him saying Murph this mess is not for me and he only served one term! 

Keep the Faith
Pete Stephenson on November 17, 2015 3:53 PM
Pete here.Classmates I just this day received word that our classmate Ronnie lee.Bailey is very sick with Stomach Cancer.Ronnie lives in Minnesotta.His wife I understand passed a couple years ago.I understand that he is with his daughter and is under hospice care.My info said that Ronnie was down to 128 lbs.Lets all pray for Ron and his family.Ronnie was one of the quiet and good guys that came out of Thorn elementary.God speed my friend.Faith Hope and Love to all of you.Ched I never broke out with poison Ivy either.Cutting some brush here on the back of the house a few months back.Guess who broke out with the rash.
Ched on November 17, 2015 6:45 PM
I did get a significant breakout  with poision ivy about 5  years  ago.  I was  cutting  some wood  with a  chain saw and  the wood  was "roped" with large poision ivy vines.  The  saw dust  splattered me pretty good and even though  the  ivy ropes  were  dry.  I broke out.... I was funny looking  for  a few  days !!!!
Thomas Dillon on November 17, 2015 7:28 PM
Here's another memory and perhaps I have the 2 confounded, i.e., the poison ivy story and -- I'm sure we were still at Mercer and many of us guys tried to bleach our hair blond. We couldn't afford the coloring kits so used hydrogen peroxide to the nth degree. I think you and B.Lambert were fairly successful. I had a flat top and my hair turned an ugly red/yellow/brown.
Did you try and bleach your eyebrows, got some peroxide in your eyes, and that's where I got the eye-closing memory?
Ched on November 18, 2015 10:55 AM
We all diid  things  to our  appearance  to try to be  cool. My hair  was  already  without much color ( blonde)  so I  did  the  eyebrows instead . Those  who used  the peroxide  and  ammonia mixture  definately had mixed  results but  were  cool anyway !!!
Pete Stephenson on November 18, 2015 5:49 PM
Pete,Cmates sorry to advise that Ronnie Bailey passed away this morning.No further info at this time.I learned of this a few minutes ago.Ched you guys with the blond hair were too cool.Guys like me with the dark brown hair never had a chance with the peroxide.The is a product out called sun in that does a good job though.Never did try peroxide on eyebrows though.Also got my poision ivy from chain sawing a roped pine here in my back lot.I have about 15 more to cut so the saga will continue I suppose.Faith Hope and Love to all.Pray for Rons family also.
Ched on November 18, 2015 10:27 PM
All,  So sorry to learn about  Ronnie.  I Hope he passed peacefully. 
Thomas Dillon on November 19, 2015 11:28 AM
Remembering Ron, I think of Jimmy Stewart as the "Quiet Man". Ron was a true gentleman and not one for excessive words.
I also have a picture in my mind of Ronnie in his football uniform -- he was so tall and thin and his helmet and shoulder pads  were so ill- fitting that he was a sight playing the position of end.
Again, however, Geehole played offensive guard and defensive linebacker and weighed in at 135lbs. soaking wet.
Prayers for Ronnie's soul and peace and comfort for his family and friends.

geno on November 19, 2015 2:03 PM
You guys cutting those poison oak roots on trees, turn your saw up and use the back or top of the bar, throws the juice off in front of the saw, not on the operator.
Thomas Dillon on November 19, 2015 3:03 PM
Mr. Law,
Where oh where have you been? I miss your sagacious palaver. Those are not dirty words -- means wise comments so no one has to get out a dictionary. 

Delores, Cookie, please, Please, PLEASE come back. I have missed you also.
Fredrick Lucas on November 19, 2015 9:01 PM
I am sad like the rest to learn of the passing of Ronnie Bailey. If I had the name of a family member and an address, I would send a condolence note.

So far I have counted 43 known deaths among our classmates. I asked a retired pharmacist in Cincinnati who is 81 the figures for his high school  class death figures. One hundred seventy five graduated and seventy five have died. He recently returned from a tour of Hawaii.


Becky Novarro on November 20, 2015 2:08 PM
Does anyone, besides me, say Okey-Dokey-Mokey?  Have any of you heard from him? As Freddie says, we are all headed for a trip to the Grim Reeper so let's try to keep up.
Also, does anyone want to talk football?  I am still stuck on the different uniforms or costumes as they are starting to look like.
WVU plays tomorrow...they look kindof normal, I think!  
BTW, you FSU people can be proud of Jameis...he is being a leader with the Bucs and they aren't that bad this year.

Carl on November 20, 2015 5:18 PM
Now you've gone and got me started.  A few years back, the Univ. of Oregon started sporting high fashion uniforms, and some of them were indeed very attractive.  Next thing you know, nearly every college was coming out with their unique design, nearly each new iteration uglier than previous ones, many bordering on hideous.  Now the trend seems to be to solid colors.
   Last night the TN Titans wore light blue of slightly different hues -- the pants being lighter than the jerseys -- unintentionally I'm sure.  The damn things look just like Dr. Denton's.  Now while that may be a "precious" look for four-year-olds, it's an insult to grown men -- especially the beastly behemoths that inhabit the NFL. 
   BAN THE UNICOLOR UNIFORM.  And Clemson, Tennessee & Texas fans, orange may be the worst of them all.  Just give me back the humdrum of Penn State (and PHS60) simplicity.  [NOTE: I'm beginning to feel a bit better.]       MAGFAY
Carol on November 21, 2015 6:48 AM
Did someone say "football"?    Carl, I agree orange is less than attractive, but our Clemson Tigers are kicking this year!   Can they beat Bama or Ohio State?   If you love ACC and SEC football, two of our sons do a weekly podcast just for fun and have picked up listeners from Missouri to Florida.  I can only listen for about 10 minutes....

I went to to see the Donald yesterday.  We were there two hours early because the line was long.  Yes, he is on my short list.  There are only three R candidates who oppose the TPP.  Can a 5,000 page treaty that limits our sovereignty be good for America?  

So sad to lose another classmate.  Prayers for the family and thanks to those who keep us updated.  

Tracy French on November 21, 2015 10:16 AM
I maintain a list of classmates that I know have died.  With the addition of Ron Bailey, I now have 51 on the list.  Not all on the list graduated with us but at some time did attend school with us.

Carol, did you intentionally leave the Big 12 out of contention for the title this year.  I predict the 2015 champion will emerge as the winner between Oklahoma and Oklahoma State.
Mike Murphy on November 21, 2015 12:35 PM
WVU plays Kansas today and are  favorer by 28.

Becky - speaking of ugly uniforms - The Pittsburg Steelers retro Bumble Bee uniforms remind me of Saturday Night Live Bees!!  

Carl - Can you still kick both feet over your head at the same time?

Tracy any word on Harry?

Pete - It appears that Turkey has really turned toward Rad Islam?

Keep the Faith
Fredrick Lucas on November 21, 2015 2:40 PM
Tracy, according to the Reunion Book of 2015, there are 42 people. Then Scotty Reid died and Ronnie Bailey died. That makes 44.

Turning to deaths in football, eleven high school players have died this year.In /Italy, all persons who want to play sports must have an EKG. Some players have genetic heart abnormalities which need to be detected.

A study was made of NCAA college players from2003-2013 according to CNN online. There were 79 cardiac arrests and 514 deaths during that time period.  Fred
Becky Novarro on November 23, 2015 9:19 PM
Forgive me for being so shallow as to want to talk about something besides death.

Tracy French on November 21, 2015 6:08 PM
Mike:  Harry is back home and doing well.  He does not have speech problems or paralysis from the stroke but Barbara said this one left him much weaker than the last one.  He will begin PT next week.

Fred:  Not included in your list of deceased classmates are:
Charles Brooks
Kirk Hatfield
Judy Ann Hill
Matthew King
Sally Mann Jenkins
Betty Hylton Hill
Harold Phillips 
Ched on November 21, 2015 7:15 PM
I remember  Charles ( "Bunkey") Brooks.   His Mom as my Cub Scout  Den Mother and  they lived up on 5th st  as I  recall. He later  moved  to Bluefield  and  was  a football standout  there.
Carl on November 22, 2015 10:35 AM
Found the following obit online:

Ron L. Bailey
October 9, 1942 - November 18, 2015
Apple Valley, Minnesota

  Ron was born on October 9, 1942 and passed away on Wednesday, November 18, 2015.
  Ron was a resident of Apple Valley, Minnesota at the time of his passing. He was formerly from Princeton, West Virginia. He was a 1960 graduate of Princeton High School.
He served his country for eight years in the Air Force.
He was married to Penny. The family has honored Ron’s request that he be cremated and services will be held at a later date.


Carl on November 23, 2015 9:54 PM
Now here we are, just days before Thankdgiving, and I note that we haven't heard from Cookie in too long a while.
   Cooks, does this mean that you no longer love us?  Pray say that it isn't so.
   How about a memory from your "over the river and through the woods" days that will transport us as only your posts do?
Mike Murphy on November 25, 2015 12:48 PM
Happy Thanksgiving PHS60ers!!

Hope all who are feeling poorly are getting better. 

I remember as a youngster, Thanksgiving being a great day for all the family to return home for hunting in the morning (rabbits and or Grouse and Quail) on our small 32 acre farm and a huge feast, usually a big ham (20 - 30 lbs) mashed and sweet potatoes, green and pinto beans and wounderful home made bread with fresh churned butter! and an apple sauce cake or fruit cake and fried apple pies from the yellow transparent trees of the Carter's next door. Although I miss my family that have past especially my Mother, I give thanks for the wounderful memories and good times growing up in Glenwood and Princeton and the many good friends and family that remain. 

Happy Thanksgiving and God Bless
geno on November 25, 2015 1:33 PM
Had fried sweet taters and soup beans with corn bread last night. Please take time to give God thanks for this nation, as bad as it is getting it's still got every thing else beat by a country mile.
Carl on November 25, 2015 4:31 PM
Pete Stephenson on November 25, 2015 6:12 PM
pete here Big Mike,you flung a craven on me talkinng about all the vittles you used to have for Thanksgiving,We are fortunate and blessed here in this country to have had the opportunities that we have had  in our lifetimes.Just the memories from here in our home turf of Princeton is well worth all we went through as youngsters.How blessed we are.You are right that the radical Islamist are in Turkey as well as all the other places in this world.I believe we are at the begginings of WW3.I pray not but with the leadership we have just scares the hell out of me.Ankara Turkey as you are well aware of is a beautiful city.I was fortunate to have spent 8 days there in the early 60's.I pray that all of you class mates have a very good and Happy Thanksgiving.Faith,Hope and Love top all.God Bless.Remember you don't have to be politically correct to wish someone MERRY CHRISTMAS.
Fredrick Lucas on November 25, 2015 7:34 PM
Thanksgiving is tomorrow. I would like to remember my dinners in Princeton. Grandad Callaway owned the local Piggly Wiggly grocery store  so he swupplied the food. Everyone in the family came to his home where the ladies prepared the meal. The men went to the living room. The meals and fellowship were great.

As the adults got older, we ate dinner at the Hotel Virginian. That was a nice treat. Julian Huffman's mother was a waitress. 

Downstairs there was a barber shop. Mr Thompson was the barber. One day I got a haircut . He explained that he had cut the hair of a faculty member from Concord. His wife came in and he asked whether she  did her business. Thompson was shocked. To him, that meant using the toilet. Have a great Thanksgiving Day Fred

Tracy French on November 26, 2015 8:05 PM
What a wonderful Thanksgiving Day I had.  The family gathered at my house for our traditional Thanksgiving dinner which includes turkey, ham, greenbeans, mashed potatoes, corn, dresssing, cranberry salad, rolls, pumpkin pie and other deserts.  Missing this year for the first time was my sister Dorothy who passed away last December but we were blessed with the good news that my other sister Ellen's granddaughter was pregnant.  God is good.  The LORD taketh away and the LORD giveth.

My great niece Brittany announced the pregnancy by having me put together a puzzel which told about the pregnancy.  We were blessed to have her with us today because she lives in San Diego and her husband is in the Navy and at sea.
Carl on November 26, 2015 9:27 PM
Congratulations Tracy.  Thanks for sharing.
[The turkey was tasty in F'burg too.]
Delores on November 28, 2015 2:59 PM
She isn't avaialble.  She is in the bunker arranging the canned goods and cases of water by date.  
Thomas Dillon on November 28, 2015 6:52 PM
We have had nearly 40 hours of rain. I didn't know what to do with the sink hole that has appeared, but now will follow your lead Cookie and start filling it with supplies. D did not mention alcoholic beverages. Are they appropriate?
Delores on November 28, 2015 6:59 PM
I asked her and she just yelled something about......"Hell Yes."  I'll talk to her about her offensive language.
Fredrick Lucas on November 29, 2015 11:20 AM
I would like to report that Sybil Keesee, a music teacher in Mercer County for 43 years died September 23, 2015. She was born on May 13, 1922 and graduated from Concord in 1944. She also was a PHS graduate.She spent many years teaching  music at Princeton Junior High School. She was a member of First United Methosist and sang in the choir. She was a member of the Daughters of the American Revolution.

She enjoyed playing bridge and was a Virginia Tech sports fan.

Cookie there is a man by the name of Bunker Hill who is a blues singer. Fred
Cookie on November 29, 2015 10:37 PM
A blues singer??  I thought he had something to do with the Revolutionary War.
Mike Murphy on November 30, 2015 12:43 PM
I feel so much safer to know that captain carbon flake is off fighting our number one enemy "Climate Change". What a putz! and he wants to give $10 Billion to other countries to help shut down their economies! First the coal miners then what next?

Keep the Faith
geno on November 30, 2015 3:22 PM
Cookie that's why he's singing the blues every true historian knows he was   SPY SENT TO aMERICA to cause us to fail rumor has it, and I might add, every rumor has a basis of truth, I hears he went out every day with bow and arrows and shot them up in the air to create this global warming mess that we are in now, and it's having an impact on us still , our illustrious Pres. is fighting tooth and nail to curb this atrocity, I wonder if we made ice arrows and shot them in the air would we be saved from this terrible epidemic that has been thrust upon us? I think I will get my guitar and sing some blues.
Cookie on November 30, 2015 3:49 PM
Let me just put this out there...............................just got a notice that my social security check will be less in January.  I made TOO
Cookie on November 30, 2015 3:51 PM
EXCUSE ME....MAY I FINISH.....I made too much money last year plus medicare premiums went up.  
Geno:  Do you have any "shine" in the valley?  I need a drink.
Cookie on November 30, 2015 6:01 PM
NOTE TO YOUNG PEOPLE:  Spend all your money now.  If you are thrifty, save it and plan for old age you get screwed.  
Delores on November 30, 2015 9:09 PM
Response to the e-mail received in the bunker questioning the social security rant.

Its a provision under the Affordable Care Act called "Modified Adjusted Gross Income"- MAGI.  They have a chart to determine your "Income Related Monthly Adjustment Amount."  The bunker got really excited. They  thought "ADJUSTMENT" meant there was an increase coming.  NOT.  This means "how much we are gonna take away from you because you followed the rules and worked hard."

Just a little lawyerly speak wouldn't you say.  
geno on December 1, 2015 4:46 AM
Only shine I got is on my boots, calm down wipe the whine from your heart, get a smile on your face and sing a get happy song, tra la la tweedle dee it gives me a thrill.........enough to get ya going.
Cookie on December 1, 2015 10:35 AM
Thanks Geno.  That did the trick. :-)  
P.S.  You don't really think I take this stuff seriously do you????
Carl on December 1, 2015 11:58 AM
Still shining those boots, huh Geno?  Gosh a'mighty but you sure set a good example.
geno on December 1, 2015 1:11 PM
We sure need some good examples, saw an application, where gender is listed (he) (she) or (other)  , these idiots do not know there is no other. non gender restrooms, read an article in paper a man claiming to be a Democrat trying to rally all democrats to elect Sanders, he does not know what a Democrat is, wouldn't make a scab on a good democrat's hind end, these mama raised democrats don't even know what a Democrat believes, uh used to believe, socialists passing their selves off as democrats, this nation is headed for a big fall and I see no help for it. It makes one like me that was raised to respect the flag, pledge allegiance to America and really pledge it, not just mouth the words, sick in the very heart, that loves this nation. Cookie, I understand why you need a drink. o.k. off my soap box, and by the way if elected, I promise nothing......

Tracy French on December 2, 2015 7:59 PM
Cookie:  Hiding in a bunker is not a good ideal.  If you remember a few years back, there was a guy in Iraq (I can't remember his name) who was famous for killing muslim extremist (ISIS) and the US hunted him down and found him in a bunker and hanged him (or at least had someone hangrd him).  Sometimes it's just better to hang out in a crowd of people and act like you're a democrat.
Cookie on December 2, 2015 8:34 PM
Tracy I believe you are talking about Sadam.  They found him in a hole in the ground, arrested him, tried him and when they hung him the rope snapped his head off and it rolled across the floor.  Talk about three strikes and you are out.  
Mike Murphy on December 5, 2015 12:39 PM
Coming to your neighborhood - Al Shabbab (the boys) or global warming. I heard a lib on TV this AM say that in 20 years Syria will be to hot to live in!!

Geno - has the whole world gone crazy except for you and me and sometimes I wonder about me?

Cookie - keep up the good fight!

Keep the Faith
geno on December 5, 2015 3:01 PM
Mike you sound sane to me, we think a lot alike, I cannot believe the way some of the people I know and have known for years are beginning to believe, the persuasion of socialism is strong on their minds, sounds good on the surface, every country that's got it , the peons starve, the ones in charge live like kings. The terrorist attack in Calif. because they left their child in safe hands, are being hailed as sane individuals, go figure.
Cookie on December 5, 2015 6:17 PM
Talk about insanity.
Errin Burnett, the half wit CNN Commentator in the a.m. said yesterday the chick who ran around out in California with a bag over her head  shooting up people was suffering.................are you ready...................from Post-Partum Depression. Thats why she gave her baby away and went out and murdered a bunch of people.  I've been suffering from Post-Partum Depression since 1964 but I haven't put a bag over my head yet.  ----  DON'T GO THERE.  
I really think common sense was eradicated at Woodstock and we are now in the second and third generation of the idiots they spawned.  
geno on December 5, 2015 7:40 PM
Another sane one Mike, wanna start a sane club?
Mike Murphy on December 5, 2015 9:12 PM
I agree with Will Rodgers - I would not join a club that would have me as a member! 

Captin puddy pants will still not call them Radical Islamic Terrorists, a hangover from his 20 years in a hate America Church! It must be our fault?

Keep the faith
Carl on December 6, 2015 12:22 PM
Oh my!  I just can't keep track (nor can I keep up with some of you sane folk). ISIS, ISIL, Al Quida, Al-Qaeda, Boko Haram, Procol Harum, the Paris terrorists, the Charleston S.C. terrorist, the Colorado Springs terrorist, the San Bernardino terrorists. . . .  It's far too complex for my simple, aged mind.  So I just "collectivize" them as Disgruntled, Oppressed People Everywhere.  It supports my simple view that the world is full of DOPEs.  Of course, that doesn't include you or me. 
[You know who you are. . . don't you?] 
Mike Murphy on December 6, 2015 12:23 PM
Just finished reading the Sunday Gazette Mail and the basic message was be kind to Muslims and scorn Christians plus be more worrried about "Climate Change" than Radical Islamic Terrorism! Plus we have way too many guns and more people are getting killed by them than prescription opiods. I thought the problem was Herion, heart attacks Cancer and car wrecks?

Geno, I have reconsidered and am ready to join the club. I need a safe place to protect me from liberal hacks?

Happy Hanukkah and Merry Christmas
Saw another story where a Council woman resigned because the kids were going to say and sing Merry Christmas at a Christmas Pagent. Christmas is still about the Birth of Christ isn't it? Maybe the lady can join Boko Haram (education forbidden).

Bye the way did you know that Mary (maryim) is mentioned more in the Koran than the Bible? Also Muslims consider Jesus as a Prophit.  
Keep the Faith
Carl on December 6, 2015 12:39 PM
Murph, do you happen to know if Fredericksburg is in the Gazette Mail's home delivery area?
Fredrick Lucas on December 7, 2015 10:02 AM
There was an interesting podcast on Radio Lab.It is called 23 weeks 6 days. It is about the birth of a baby girl after 23 weeks and 6 days to Mrs. Kelly Benham a reporter with the Tampa Bay Times.

When the baby was born it weighed 1.5 lbs. It went into an incubator. The skin had not developed and all veins arteries and organs were visible. The parents visited the child and read stories to her from the Harry Potter series and let her grasp their fingers. A few weeks after going into the incubator, the stomach turned blue. The surgeon didn't want to operate. The ob-gyn wanted her to go ahead because the child had a strong heart and showed a will to live. She survived. Today she is a happy two year old who enjoys the family dog and the children at her pre -school. 

She has to have four flu shots to protect her from the effects of the common cold.

The narrators said that if a child is born before 22 weeks, it will not usually survive. Between 22 and 24 weeks the situation is fluid. The child needs to demonstrate a strong will to live After 25 weeks the child with the help of the physician and staff will usually survive. You can go online and listen to the one hour discussion Fred


Tracy French on December 7, 2015 4:49 PM
NEVER, NEVER, NEVER forget Pearl Harbor!

And, Remember the Alamo.
Mike Murphy on December 7, 2015 6:29 PM
Carl- I think home delivery is out of the question, I don't think the Gazette spreads that far, although it leaves a soft brown taste in your mouth after reading?

Geno - How much aare the club dues and what is the iniation. We used to throw new caddies in the creek on #3 hole in front of your property.

Keep the faith
Cookie on December 8, 2015 12:07 AM
Well at least one man escaped the wrath and "de-nutting" of the National Organization for Women.......can I just say...................
Lt. Col Ralph Peters.  :-)

Tracy French on December 8, 2015 12:50 PM
Cookie:  Col Peters just might make a good vice-president for The Donald.  He's been given 2 weeks off, I wonder if its with pay.  When Fox brings him back it should improve their ratings.
geno on December 8, 2015 4:04 PM
Mike thedues are : you have to know 3 Italians, 2 greeks, and one Indian, (CHIEF ROTTEN SOCKS must be excluded), the initiation is you have sing "JIngle Bells" wit 4 sticks of bubble gum in yoyur mouth. That's it, easy club to join, if you decide to come in there wii be no magazines sent to you there will be no promises made to you there will be absolutely no benefits whatsoever, there will however be no taxation, actually I'm thinking abou disbanding thje club, I'm beginning to think all the club we need is a good ash, dried, oil soaked and about 27 inches long, drilled out 6inches in the hitting end an filled with lead, makes good club. by the way has anyone noticed the women are coming to the forefront to to carry the battle for Isis, Is this the new norm? The U.S. has voted to send women intoall combat situations. I must be getting too old fashioned, I still think of women as something to behold and to hold and to cuddle with, never thought about going to war with them.
Mike Murphy on December 8, 2015 6:10 PM
Geno - Maybe we can get Col Peters to join if we have some type of cat as our mascot?

Merry Christmas
Cookie on December 8, 2015 7:02 PM
Thanks Mike.  Just spit coffee ALL OVER MY computer screen.  Looks like the REAL men are on the warpath.  Congratulations.  My daddy would be proud.  
Mike Murphy on December 9, 2015 12:41 PM
Carl- Just reading this months American Rifleman and noticed a hand gun with made in USA FNH Fredericksburg VA. also mentions FN America FNX Tactical. Are you aware that this company is making Captain gun hater mad and is manufacturing in your home town? Also how is the knee?

Geno - How about the El Gatos? and should we allow women since they can now be in all phases of combat. I have mixed feeling about that especially on Seals etc.

Merry Christmas

Carl on December 10, 2015 11:10 AM
Murph, I'm unaware of the gun manufacturer.  Since I've been here a mere 13 1/2 months, I haven't finished unpacking yet; therefore, no time to explore area restaurants/bars, amusement venues, or area attractions -- including industrial tours like FN America FNX Tactical.  I'm pleased to note that we have an ample number of gun shops, gun shows, and gun enthusiasts.  My community includes a large number of military vets; I assume that many of them "pack."  All in all, F'burg provides a fine sense of security (deserved or otherwise).
  The knee continues to improve: just incidental, moderate pain, good flexibility, and, most importantly, residual empathy inducement.  I've pretty much perfected my Walter Brennan gait in hopes of milking this for months.
geno on December 10, 2015 12:10 PM
Mike what would a club be without women?????? Think about it who does the work in the house who pushes our lazy butts to get something done, who watches out for our own good, who brings us comfort when we are down, who makes us think we are the stronges, best looking, greatest lover since who knows when, who keeps us smiling when we are down, hugs our blues away, kisses our pain away, whispers those things in our ears that spurs us into ectasy, gotta have women.....I'm just waiting for the women against brutality against women to come out against the Muslims, everyone is for them even the anti-slavers haven't spoken out, I haven't heard anyone sobbing for the families of the victims of the bernadino shooting, by terrorists, the only outcry I've heard is Hillary,s and the big O's crying its time to remove the guns, is it to make it easier for the terrorists to shoot us down?????? by the way do you know that Isis now has 30,000 slaves in their possession, maybe be more but that is the known number. No media outcry, thousands have been mutilated raped and tortured, no out cry, where are the bleeding hearts for them, Fred I heard your outcry for clean air, haven't heard anything about the atrocities of shooting down innocent civilians, Boston bombing went almost unnoticed, take a close look fellow men and women, is there an anti American movement going on, nothing is noted by the media, Fox news jumped all over Trump for speaking out against the Muslims, all the presidents men, and all the so called wannabes running for office, I think its time for all good men and women to come to the aid of their country, I really wonder if there's any one left that cherishes America and what we stand for, a short 25 years ago we would never have stood for Americans being gunned down by another country. Pray Pray Pray for a revival in this country, Pray for a great awakening of the sleeping giant........
Carl on December 10, 2015 3:33 PM
Do others out there get a song or an image in your head that keeps cycling thru?  I do.  And it's happened again.
   For the last couple of days I can't shake the faces and voices of Geno & Murph channeling the Everly Brothers with the following song:

Gray skies are gonna clear up,
Put on a happy face;
Brush off the clouds and cheer up,
Put on a happy face.

Take off the gloomy mask of tragedy,
It's not your style;
You'll look so good you'll be glad
Ya' decided to smile!

Pick out a pleasant outlook,
Stick out that noble chin;
Wipe off that "full of doubt" look,
Slap on a happy grin!

And spread sunshine all over the place,
Just put on a happy face!

Thanks boys!


Tracy French on December 10, 2015 8:49 PM
Fred:  For a story about a REAL WOMAN google Cara Walters Combs.

Carl on December 11, 2015 4:41 PM
Well just look who's REDfaced again!!! 

I overlooked the December birthday celebrants 'til today.

Fran Rice Baker, I hope you had a happy one on 
December 2.
Still to occur this month:
Pat Smith - December 18
Harry Covey - December 19
Barbara Calfee Fields - December 22

Happy birthday y'all three.

Ched on December 12, 2015 2:24 PM
Happy Birthday to you all.
You were a Christmas gift a  few years back !!!
Fredrick Lucas on December 12, 2015 4:22 PM
Tracy why don't you write a synopsis about Mrs. Combs. Incidentally, the Alliance Francaise de Cincinnati held the holiday dinner two weeks ago. We remembered the families of those who were killed and injured in the Paris and San Bernadino attacks.

I remembered the familie in Colorado Springs when a deranged man killed three innocent people in the Planned Parenthood attack. Fred
Fredrick Lucas on December 12, 2015 5:04 PM
I want to wish all December classmates a happy birthday. The temperature in Cincinnati is 68'F Fred
Fredrick Lucas on December 12, 2015 7:53 PM

I want to remind you  religion which is Reform Jewish recognizes a number of spiritual paths to reach the creator. You recognize that your belief system about Jesus is the only way to reach God. We don't accept that position. That is why I have been concerned why your prayers at reunion gatherings say in the name of Jesus. 

Since there are a number of beliefs in the Elks movement, God is recognized. You won't go along with that and old buddy, I won't come to any class events since you recognize Jesus in a Trinity. Fred
Carl on December 12, 2015 8:08 PM
J. Fred, in the words of a favorite gospel song:
"Heaven help us all, help us all . . ."
Here's a link to my all-time, #1 favorite, Ray Charles, singing for ALL the sons of Abraham:
Carl on December 12, 2015 8:18 PM
And another offering in the same vein from a different Ray Stevens than is popularly known, and common to "Western values" of all persuasions:
Cookie on December 12, 2015 10:59 PM
Carl on December 13, 2015 11:23 AM
Why Cookie, you mean that you can't believe that Ray Charles is my all-time favorite singer?  My, my.
Mike Murphy on December 13, 2015 1:05 PM
Tracy- I appreciate your role as a classmate, friend and religious leader and although, I have doubts about Christ being the son of God, I will fight to the death for you and your beliefs and will attend and participate in any meeting where I will be privileged for you to pray for me, my family and fellow classmates!

Happy Hanukkah
Merry Christmas

geno on December 13, 2015 3:30 PM
Mike my dear friend, I did not know you felt this way, you used Jewish custom, use the Jewish custom of reading the Bible, Genesis is to us a beginning the Jewish scholars and Rabbis title all chapters Genesis is given the title of Revelation or revealing , Genesis 1:1 God is revealed, vs.2 Holy Spirit is revealed vs. 3Jesus is revealed, The traditional Jews do not accept Jesus as the messiah, but the completed Jew or the Jew that has accepted Jesus as their saviour accepts this verse as referring to Jesus.  God introduces himself, The Holy Spirit , and Jesus in the first three verses of his letter, as a Jewish Rabbi said"do you not introduce youself whenever you address someone"? Do not take this lightly, I know you examine anything you want to learn about. Take a long hard look around the world today, the whole world.......The Bible says that in the last days Satan will persecute the woman (Israel) and the child(Jesus Christ), you nor any one else has ever seen persecution of the Christians world wide, look in the United States persecution has never existed here like now.  Civil Rights act passed in 1964, but today homosexuals have the rights, they have the right to demand, notice they only demanded from Christian businesses, but they do not have the same right to refuse, used to be in this country you had the right to refuse to serve anyone, and the Christians were the only ones fined. Look where Russia is sitting in Syria, Is that a good start for Rev.6 or not, Have you not noticed the sudden drop of oil prices, most Americans are just happy to have low gas prices, is this not a good plan to break American oil drillers, banrupt the oil barons, OPEC says they can stand 20 dollars a barrel long enough to break the American drillers. The big picture paints a bleak future for America, most folks can't see it though there's much more but I would venture to say you are already bored with this little bit. Hope you investigate........
Mike Murphy on December 13, 2015 5:31 PM
Geno - I think -hope that you have misinterpereted what I said. It was meant to give full support to Tracy and his beliefs of which I am Almost totaly in agreement with. I do not take the Bible, Koran or Tora Literaly word for word, but do believe in God and subscribe to New Testiment principles. It appears that you question my knowledge of religion(s), which I think is vast?  I respect your beliefs and would Hope that you respect mine. I was trying to show my respect and support for Tracy and point out Freds misplaced intolerance, which I think I failed in miserably.

Keep the Faith
Your Friend
Cookie on December 13, 2015 5:57 PM
Carl:  My being speechless had nothing to do with your choice of music...I love Ray Charles and Ray Stevens.  I was speechless in that political correctness has invaded the website.  I respect and am tolerant of all religions so long as they respect mine unless they are trying to kill me....which obviously our classmate does not respect. 
Since he does not wish to attend anymore reunions perhaps he can attend the Princeton High School Class of 60 reunion in Cincinnati.  I note from the web they also have a Princeton High School and perhaps will have a more diverse religious membership. 
Keep praying for us all Brother French...from the looks of things we all better get on our knees regardless of whom or to what we worship.
Carl on December 13, 2015 6:37 PM
Cookie, of course I was just funnin' you in my usual stupid fashion.
I know enough about your good musical taste to know that "the Rays" would reside there.  As for the intolerance, pardon my repeating: "Heaven help us all."

   One more musical offering, the fabulous, not-to-everyone's-taste Mary Gauthier [go SHAY] singing "Mercy Now":
Mike Murphy on December 14, 2015 9:32 AM
Cookie - Perfectly said. I wish I had your writing ability.

Merry Christmas
geno on December 14, 2015 11:23 AM
AAHHH brother Mike never meant to offend oppress or belittle, but the fact is, muslims behead people they're not persecuted for that buddists are not persecuted, of all the religions in the world why is just the Christian and Jew persecuted????? Jesus was important enough to man that time was divided when he came B.C. and A.D. Let me share some Jewish history with you, You may already know it, In the year 33 A.D. the temple door opened and closed by itself(this usually required 20 men to accompolish) the Jewish priest announced tha God had came in and would dwell there. In that same year when the scapegoat had the scarlet ribbon tied to its horns and let go to the wilderness the ribbon did not change to white as in previous years, I thought this was verrrry interesting....

Tracy French on December 14, 2015 3:13 PM

What would be the consequences for me if you were right about your beliefs and I was wrong?

What would be the consequences for you if I were right and you were wrong?

Concerning my prayers at reunion events:  For me to purposely omit Jesus' name after a prayer would be the same as not acknowledging Him as my Lord and Savior.  If I do not acknowledge Christ before man, He will not acknowledge me before God The Father. 

Mrs. Combs gave her life to give her unborn child an opportunity to live.  I'm sure she is missed dearly by her husband and 3 other small children.  What a precious woman she was!

Mike, Cookie and others thanks for your support.



Cookie on December 14, 2015 4:25 PM
You are a very kind, gracious and tolerant man.  May God bless you and continue to provide you with strength and wisdom in all your good works.
Continue to pray for all of us.
Merry Christmas
Mike Murphy on December 14, 2015 6:54 PM
Tracy - Keep on Keeping on!

God Bless and Merry Christmas
I hope you and family are well, Happy and Prosperous.

Ched on December 14, 2015 11:34 PM
 Your  comments were very well put and  spot on. Thanks  for  your  convictions. May God continue to bless  you and  your  family!

Tracy French on December 15, 2015 2:38 AM
Thanks Ched.
Pete Stephenson on December 15, 2015 2:30 PM

Tracy French on December 15, 2015 7:11 PM
Thanks Pete.  Do any good deer hunting?
Pete Stephenson on December 15, 2015 9:02 PM are welcome Tracy.I didn't get to go hunting this time missed in 49 years.Knees have gotten to bad I have an appointment with Dr.Morgan here in Princeton this coming Thursday.I think I'm going to have both replaced at one time.I sure hope Carol is doing better.And that you two can have an uneventful Christmas.Faith.Hope and Love to all.
Carl on December 16, 2015 9:56 AM
Pete, I'm sorry to learn of your bum knees.  I've had both of mine replaced -- right one 3 yrs. ago; left one 7 wks. ago.  I highly recommend it.  The 1st few weeks are awful, but the payoff is well worth it.  Like so many others, I wish I hadn't waited so long.  I sure admire the courage of those who have both done at once.  Best of luck.

Tracy French on December 16, 2015 2:15 PM
Pete:  You can't let a little thing like bum knees keep you from hunting.  They're ok to get you out of housework and stuff like that but you got to keep going man. I just get injections for mine right around deer season.

Carol is doing great, her right ankel is still frozen and botox is no longer helping, she will probably have surgery after the first of the year to release the tendon so her heel can go to the floor.  She gets stronger everyday and does the dishes and laundry and a few other things around the house.  It has taken a big load off of me the last couple months.
Carl on December 16, 2015 4:20 PM
Pete, I think Tracy's right.  Since I've never been a hunter, I can't comment on that part, but I knew exactly when my time had come for new knees.  It was when I realized that it was taking Joan longer and longer to get to my recliner with another beer.  Just like hunting, you gotta be able to read the signs -- and make your move.

Carl on December 17, 2015 10:39 AM
(recent conversation)
Deeter: You asked my opinion and I'm giving it.  You'd do better not to put it on the Blog.
Me: Ahh, come on.  These people are all friends and will take it in the spirit it's intended.
Deeter: I stand by what I said.  You do what you want.

WARNING: The following contains religious content!

   Proceed at your own risk.

To all the peaceful Islamists, I wish you peace on earth,
To all you happy atheists, I wish a life of mirth,
To Buddhist, Confucian, Baha’ist & Sikh
Be joyous and treat well the strong and the weak,
Zoroastrian, Hindi, agnostic and Tao,
I wish you great comfort, eternal and now.
And last, but not least, warm regards to the Jew:
I sing "Happy Hanukkah" to each of you.
So take no offense, please, if I take the time
To add "Merry Christmas" to this modest rhyme.

Tracy French on December 17, 2015 4:11 PM

You're good!  You can make it rhyme ...everytime.
Me?  I'm not a poet ...and I know it.

Concerning those new knees:  If you find yourself having to get out of the recliner and make more trips  to the refrigerator than you're acccustomed to, try sewing a magnet to the recliner (under the cover of course) about where one of your knees is and tell Joan you might have been better off not to have had the surgery.

Just saying...
Carl on December 17, 2015 7:47 PM
Thanks Tracy.  Would you mind putting in a good word with Deeter?
   And as for that magnet, boy you sure provide good counsel.
Mike Murphy on December 19, 2015 12:14 PM
Is Deter one of Santa's Reindeer?

Merry Christmas

Tracy French on December 19, 2015 3:44 PM
What has Deter been doing?  If need be, I can talk to him.  We are on a first name basis.

I don't think any of Santa's Reindeer are named Deter.  He does have a new one but I believe his name is Randolph.
Carol on December 20, 2015 8:00 AM
Tracy, I too stand with you and appreciate your kind heart and love for others. This has been a difficult year in South Carolina.  I can attest that the our love of Christ got us through the difficult days following the horrible shooting in Charleston.  On Fridays, my West Va neighbor and I volunteer at Mobile Meals.  We always have a Christian prayer, but the week following the massacre, we held hands and the chaplain, who is African American, prayed for all, including D.Roof.  Most of us were in tears.  Who united us?   

Another tragedy that affected us was the pastor's wife's murder in Indiana.
They had roots in Anderson, SC.

Knees:  Neil had bilateral knee replacements December 14.  His knees were so bad that he was knocked-kneed.  He did so well his doctor let him come home Tuesday.  His legs are now straight and pain is manageable.  He said compared to rotator cuff surgery, this has been a breeze.

Love to all!


Tracy French on December 21, 2015 10:35 AM
Thanks Carol, I appreciate your support. And speaking of Anderson, SC, several years ago I was on a Lay Witness Revival team that went to Midway Presbyterian Church in Anderson.  I was saddened last week by the news of the death of Marshall Kowalski who, along with his wife, hosted me.

My church in Mullens also had prayer  for the people in SC following the massacre, including D. Roof.

Hope Neil's knees do well.
Mike Murphy on December 21, 2015 12:40 PM
Its Begining to look a lot like Christmas - I recall John Johnson and I singing that on the streets of Nagoya in 1999 while a group of West Virginians were visiting our state technology office in Gifu. The rest of the group walked ahead of us fast to act like we were not with them, but John and I still felt like singing!

Time for another poem for Deeter?

I feel left out with no bone replacements?

Merry Christmas
Carl on December 21, 2015 12:54 PM
Murph, I skated by with that one seasonal poem, so I think I'll leave well enough alone, except to wish all who celebrate Christmas a fabulously happy one, and to extend greetings of the season to all others.  Take care; stay well.             MAGFAY
Thomas Dillon on December 22, 2015 10:57 AM
When we were young, Christmas time in Princeton was a special and magical time for my brothers and me. I may have shared this before, but, prior to my family moving to Walnut street and the Mercer School district before the beginning of our 7th grade, we lived in a small apartment above Bowling's (sp) Furniture Store. After the city workers strung the Christmas lights in a triangular back and forward fashion across the street, we would sit on the radiator covers at the window sills in our home and look down upon the decorations. When it snowed, the lights would initially melt the snow upon impact. We spent hours during December and were glued to this pasttime even moreso during school break.
Check out the Hallmark channel for some wonderful made-for-television shows that return one to some of the memories of times gone by. We did have a "Wonderful Life" growing up. Did we not?
The best to you and yours and may God grant you a most blessed Christmas.

Ched on December 22, 2015 2:44 PM
Tom and All,
 Fond Memories of  Christmas in Princeton !  We  were very young,  Christ  was  still  THE REASON and traditions were honored.
 Merry Christmas  to  you all !!
Mike Murphy on December 23, 2015 6:57 PM
Hes Making a list!

One of my favorite Christmas memories - on Christmas eve in Obendorf Austria at a little Church outside in a soft falling snow, where assembled sang Silent Night in French, German and English. Song was written there at the Church by two women and first sung there with guitar. My friends and I had also had some Gluwine to warm our spirits and make us think we were able to sing?

Hes checking it twice?
Merry Christmas 

Tracy French on December 24, 2015 4:12 PM
Merry Christmas to all
Mike Murphy on December 28, 2015 6:44 PM
Happy new year
computer out of order
carl - how do you advance blog to end on I phone?
keep the faith
Carl on December 28, 2015 7:56 PM
Murph, what's an "I phone"?

Tracy French on December 28, 2015 9:04 PM
Carl:  I think I can help you out on this one.  An "I phone" is actually an "eye telephone".  If you have updated technical equipment (I phone) and the person you are talking to has updated technical equipment then you can see and talk at the same time.  "I phone" is quite often used when texting so you don't have so many key strokes to make.

Hope this helps you but I am unable to answer Murph's question.
Carl on December 29, 2015 10:21 AM
My, how I do love this Blog, especially like now when it's responsive, informative, kinder and gentler.  [It almost makes me want to write another poem.]  Thanks Tracy.

Carl on December 29, 2015 11:53 AM
Callin' ALL you old dance fans.
You can't help but love this video.
[I double-dog dare you not to.]
Mike Murf on December 29, 2015 1:49 PM
Anyone -still can't scroll down quickly on iphone help anyone!
Tracy geno Fred etc great article in this months smithsonian "unearthing the world of Jesus" recommend reading!
keep the faith

Carl on December 29, 2015 1:59 PM
Mike, I like the new you [i.e., Murf]. 
Mind if I call you "Murf the Smurf"?
Murf on December 29, 2015 5:13 PM
You can call me ray or you can call me jay but tell me how to go to the end of the blog without scrolling forever on iPhone? 
Mike HNY

Tracy French on December 30, 2015 5:47 PM

My daughter said she taps the bottom of the screen on her iphone to get to the bottom.

Due to all the ballgames that are scheduled, it may be sometime next year before I get back on the bolg.  Happy New Year to everyone.
Carl on December 30, 2015 9:05 PM
Blessed be all the daughters of the world, and all other kind and helpful entities.
HAPPY NEW YEAR all you dear friends.
Carol on January 1, 2016 8:09 AM
Clemson 37-Oklahoma 17.  WIN OR LOSE, WE LOVE OUR TIGERS!


Tracy French on January 2, 2016 11:14 AM

Clemson vs Oklahoma was not even close enough to enjoy if you're not a Clemson fan.  I will be pulling for Clemson  in the next game.  I would like to see them add Alabama's tombstone to their graveyard.

If the Big 12 doesn't do something today we might be known as the patsies in college football.
Mike Murf on January 2, 2016 12:59 PM
Carol- looks like Clemson will have their hands full with AL.
good luck it should be a good game. WVU vs AZ tonight starts at 10 pm, past my bed timeš??? but will try to stay awake? 
Tracy- a prayer for all ailing PHS60ers and families might be appropriate for 2016
Happy New Year
Mike Murphy on January 3, 2016 4:58 PM
02:30 this am WVU beat Ariz by 1point after a lot of home cooking!
go eers

Carl on January 4, 2016 12:22 PM
Murf, you didn't watch the game at Geno's house did you? 
He often talks about the home cookin' there.
Mike Murphy on January 4, 2016 2:03 PM
Would have enjoyed with friend Geno but was served by the Zebras!
great win esp with refs on other side.
Dillon you OK?
Happy New -------------
Thomas Dillon on January 6, 2016 1:12 PM
Yes Murph, we is fine. Drove down to Seminole country last week arriving on the 2nd. We are in the same place we rented last year and will be here through the end of March. It is still a little cool, but temp to be in 60's today and 70's by weekend.
Kay still is unable to orchestrate the beach, but there is a hot tub and pool in this complex.

Carl on January 6, 2016 2:26 PM

Yeah Tom, orchestrating a beach is a challenge alright what with time and tide waiting for no man –- although Tide will wait for the laundress -– and the hard-headedest old couple since the Bickersons, namely Eb & Flo Watters, are always underfoot and with varying rhythms and timbres. Then with all that infernal roaring going on, I doubt that Toscanini could have orchestrated it. So better to not even try. And caution Kay not to get confused and venture into the OrcaStrait. Those big guys will hurt you, bad. Keep your distance. Stay safe. Y'all come back now, ya heah?

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Tracy French on January 6, 2016 10:11 PM
Carl:  There may be a shift in the tide this coming Monday.  In the meantime we need to determine what has happened to Cookie, Pete, Deeter and Fred.  Are they preocccupied with Slick Willy and The Donald or what is the story?

Rumor is that if Hillary could take care of government business, there wouldn't have been a need for Slick Willy to be roaming the White House Halls in the middle of the night.

Pete Stephenson on January 6, 2016 11:22 PM
Tracy,We missed you last evening at Ryans.Had a good time,I think there was 12 there.Dillon you take Care of Miss kay there at the beach.Little chilly here on the hill.Mid 20s or around there,Carl how are the knees doing? Going in for surgery for both of mine march 9th.Not looking forward to the rehab but can't continue like this anymore.hope I haven;t waited to long.Big Mike everything ok up your way,A little colder ther than here.Everyone stay safe and warm.Faith,Hope@love to all.By the way Tracy,If I was Married to Hillary I believe I would have cheated to.LOL
Carl on January 7, 2016 10:56 AM
Pete, my new knee is coming along just fine.  I now walk like a "normal" old coot.  I had my first one replced 3 years ago; don't know how anyone manages with two new ones at once, but I've heard of some who have.  Call or email me if you have questions that I can help with.

Carl on January 7, 2016 12:33 PM
January Birthdays, I know of but 2:
Edward Tomchin - January 8  [& Elvis]
Lee Tolliver - January 26

Wishing happy ones to you both.


Becky Novarro on January 7, 2016 2:30 PM
Welcome to Florida, Dillons.  Hope Kaye is better soon.  Too long!!!
It was 86 here on Christmas Eve.  Most Floridians are enjoying the cooler weather and wearing long pants. ha
We will be going to Princeton later this month and I rather dread it.  I did buy a coat and snow boots so at least I'll be kindof warm.
No one missed me!  I wrote anyway.  I am not as witty as Cookie but we all know that without her and Freddie we are reduced to talking about our health.  BTW, I'm fine.
HAPPY NEW YEAR.  Hope to see most of you in February.
Cuz'n Carl on January 7, 2016 3:14 PM
You say you're "fine"?  I'd say, fine as frog hair!
Delores on January 7, 2016 10:24 PM
Cookie is patiently waiting for the next shot across the bow of the U.S.S. Blog.

Ched on January 7, 2016 10:51 PM
Happy New year  to all !!!  We  spent most of  the Christmas holidays at  our cabin in Pigeon Forge. Had  a  great and relaxing  time.  I always  get  some  grins late in  December  when I am asked my name..... Yearout is  sometimes met  with disbelief !!!

My Hokies have  a new head  coach following  the retirement of Frank Beamer. He was (and is) a real class  act. I am hopeful  the program will continue  to operate in the "right way"

Tracy French on January 8, 2016 8:09 PM
Pete:  I was in Nashville at the Vanderbilt Eye Center last Tuesday and had to miss  the dinner for the 4th month in a row.  I drove down and back 815 miles Tuesday and today is Friday and I'm not over it yet.  The doctor at Vanderbilt was able to produce a contact lens for my right eye that gives me 20/30 vision if I can adjust to wearing it.  Due to the scar tissue it is very uncomfortable and I do not adapt well to change.  I have been legally blind in that eye since I injured it September 30, 1976.

Becky, we do miss you at the dinner and on the blog too.  Good to hear from you.  I hope it gets so hot you have to use your air conditioner and stay inside all winter. (not really)
Becky Novarro on January 9, 2016 10:48 AM
Tracy, thanks for missing me!  I hope you can adjust to the contact.  I wore one for years and keep the drops in my pocket.  Pretty soon it just gets natural.  I am surprised they didn't lazer your eye to remove the scar tissue.  When it comes to our eyes, we want the best for them.  Good luck in perserverance.

As to the air conditioner, we will be in Princeton for Feb & March and will be buying a heater, electric blanket, cuddly duds, and lots of food for soup. We hope to see you.
Love to a special man.
Thomas Dillon on January 9, 2016 12:48 PM
Why would you & Jim be in Princeton for those months if you have an alternative? A matter of have to?
In the 60's here this morning, but significant rain to begin shortly and then much colder temperatures coming in. Went to a local farmer's market first thing this morning -- loaded up on grapefruits supposedly picked yesterday (2 for $1.00), oranges, tomatoes (small basket for $4.00), and strawberries. Plan to vegg (sp?) this afternoon watching football and perhaps taking a nap with the sound of falling rain as background. Snow in Indiana today.

Tracy French on January 9, 2016 6:11 PM

I had a corneal transplant in 1986 which left me with worse vision than before.  The doctor then performed a series of Radial Keratotomy on me and during the last one he made a cut that extended into the field of vision which required a second transplant in 1990.  The second transplant was no better than the first and there was a doctor in North Carolina who said he was experienced in doing Lasik on people with transplants.  He performed 3 Lasik procedures on me which did not help and then informed me I did not have enough corneal left to do anymore surgery.  I asked for a third transplant and was told "no doctor in the world would touch your eye".

I have had many doctors try to fit me with a contact but have had no luck.  The new contact is a soft one with a small glass bubble in the center.  It will be diffficult to wear but I have been willing to try anything.

I just googled Radial Keratotomy and I found that the procedure is no longer done and was a failure and also many complaints about Lasik.
Mike Murf on January 10, 2016 1:27 PM
Local tv showed Princeton women attending a concealed carry class taught by Tim crews. You guys better be good!

BHO will fight NRA but not ISIS radical Islam?
Keep the faith
Fredrick Lucas on January 11, 2016 9:21 PM
I am sitting at the computer looking out of the window at the first snow fall of the season. We expect a few more inches by 7am. The other night I was reading the book Man's Search for Meaning by Dr. Victor Frankel from Vienna.

He was in a concentration camp during World War Two. During his time he thought of other things. What lectures he would give after the war, how his wife and baby were doing. The Germans separated the couple. He would talk to the wife who wasn't present. He helped men who had typhus and encouraged others to stay involved. He stated that the Germans captured his body but they couldn't take his mind.

After the war, he learned that his wife had died. He resumed his career as a physicatrist and died at the age of 90 in 1997. His purpose in life was to help others find their purpose.

Mike Murphy on January 12, 2016 1:22 PM
Carol - too bad about your tigers however a great game. Sabin hard to beat!
what is happening with Rand Paul?
Geno - could use some of your soup beans today. 
Keep the faith
Fredrick Lucas on January 12, 2016 8:36 PM
The other day, I spoke with a man who graduated from Williamsburg Ohio. The town is a small village about 60 miles east of Cincinnati. He explained that the high school has an all class reunion each year and the alumni eat in the gym. Special classes are recognized. The yenth, twenty fifth and fiftieth.

He explained that there were forty members of his graduating class. He is 72. Twenty six remain. He retired from the Ford transmission plant in Sharronville. Our local Ford dealer advertises that this year is the year of our Ford.

It appears that we are into winter. We have had more snow and the temperature will drop to 7 above zero tonight.

Mike why is Trump so popular? Fred

Becky Novarro on January 12, 2016 9:53 PM
Well Tom, We had realtors who made offers we couldn't refuse.  It's a try-out.
Who knows, maybe not fighting traffic for a couple of months, could be restful.
Enjoy your veggies! Please tell Kay to feel well.
Oh, today was 63!  If we have that it must be a bit chilly there.  Found out our heat works.  We snowbirds are going to freeze ourselves silly.  Time for hot food and toddy.
Carol on January 13, 2016 7:55 PM
Mike, The Tigers never gave up, maybe David just couldn't stop Golliath.  Maybe Saban is just a little better than the rest.  Dabo has done an amazing job and has a young team.  His life has not been easy, an alcoholic father (who did quit later in life), poverty, but strong faith and a positive attitude.  I am sure you know that Saban is a West Va native.  Clemson's QB, Watson, was living in the projects when his mom found info about Habitat.  She had a dream that came true when after many hours of volunteering, while raising her 4 children alone, the family moved into their new home.  Watson was so inspired that he plans to help other families achieve their dreams too,  his mom is a cancer survivor who had part of her tongue removed.  Speaking is difficult.  Dabo has a unique ability to bond players and fans.

congratulations to WVU's win over top ranked Kansas!  One of the workers at our tennis/fitness is from PA, graduated from WVU and he and Neil like to talk WV sports.  He is about 10 years younger than we are, but lost his HR job when the economy tanked around 2007.  He needed something to hold him until he can retire.

As as to Dr. Rand, he just can't seem to light a spark.  Rep. Mulvaney is supporting him and we have attended a couple of gatherings.  I went to see Donald before Christmas and we had to wait in line.  Security was everywhere. 
Mike Murphy on January 14, 2016 10:28 AM
Carol- Clemson could have won - at any rate it was a great game. WVU Bball is exciting with The Hugg although sometimes unpredictable.
Fred- the Donald has connected with all us angry conservatives who hate seeing the American Dream flushed down the drain by incompetent, hate America liberals who want to take my hard earned money and give it to the undeserving! World affairs are the worst since WW2. He is also an entertainer who can keep our attention and although I don't agree with him all the time he is mostly right about our problems. And he aggravates the liberal socialist and main stream media!
keep the faith.
geno on January 14, 2016 11:02 AM
Carl, Margurite Miller died, she always liked you. she was 93, I always liked her.
Carl on January 14, 2016 11:37 AM
Thanks Geno for the info re Margurite Miller.  Age 93 huh?  Bless her heart.  R.I.P.
  When I first entered her class I was scared to death of her, having heard of her reputation from schoolmates, but I quickly learned that she was just a no-nonsense, hard-working, dedicated and talented teacher.  I was blessed to be her student.
Becky Novarro on January 14, 2016 3:45 PM
Margarite Miller told me she grew up near Mother.  Just learning to spell she wrote that Frances Thomason was a jackass.  She said she was spanked for that one.  She was so witty and full of life.
Cookie on January 14, 2016 7:47 PM
Now wait just a minute........
How come the Queen can use dirty words and I can't???????
Ched on January 14, 2016 8:19 PM
I was rootin' hard  for Clemson ( My Conference).  They won several phases of  the  game and only lost on giving up big  special teams play by AL.  The intrception  didnt help also.
 WEe MUST get the Liberals out  and  restore  this country to its historic values...  the ones  we  grew up in !!!
Carl on January 15, 2016 12:31 PM
Chedster, are you saying that we need to Make America Great Again?
Fredrick Lucas on January 15, 2016 7:59 PM
Last week, I spoke with Casie Justice, Director of the Concord Foundation. She explained that the State of West Virginia provides 24% of the total university budget. This year, the state cut funding to Concord by $400,000. 
What did Concord, West Liberty and other state universities do? Concord closed the swimming pool. That means that community children can no longer take swimming lessons. The faculty staff and students can no longer swim. The school has deferred building maintenance and if I understand closed the cafeteria. The snack ber remains open. As a care package, I donated $250 to help. West Liberty cut out academic programs and deferred building maintenance. Those of us who live out of state might consider a donation Fred
Mike Murphy on January 15, 2016 8:26 PM
 Fred- The cuts are adore the result of BHOs and Sierras war on coal! Your donations are too little too late!!
geno on January 16, 2016 1:57 PM
Carl, I'll share a story with you about Margurite,(maggie) do you remember when you were limping badly, your foot or leg, I can't remember which, anyway Maggie was giggling, and shaking her head ,of course Mr. nosey inquired why and she smiled at me and said, He's not faking I hid  and watched him walk all the way down the hall, limping all the way, then giggled. She was a good ol' gal and full of life, I always thought she felt proud that she stayed out of sight to spy on you, and was glad you were not faking.
Carl on January 16, 2016 3:22 PM
Geno, thanks for sharing.  You describe a side of Margurite that I never saw, nor imagined existed.  That must have been the year that I sprained an ankle really badly and ended up in a heavy cast for a couple of weeks.  I guess I at least scored a point for honesty.  [I could barely walk, but got over it.]

Becky Novarro on January 17, 2016 3:03 PM
Well Ms. Cookie, I am allowed to cuss because Margarite Miller had the nerve to call my Mother a bad name.  Also, I married a Yankee.
In addition, it's just me!
Cookie on January 17, 2016 6:50 PM
Dear Queenie
Cuss words are simply "sentence enhancers."  Periodically I'm driven to enhancing my sentences particularly when I read this blog.
Cold and snow coming this way.  Watch out for the rain and wind your way.
Fredrick Lucas on January 18, 2016 10:59 AM
Budget cuts at Concord have taken place in the past. In 2003, Concord had a cut of $300,000. All programs and classes with fewer than 8 students had to be cut.

Regarding coal, there is an awareness world wide that continued burning of fossil fuels can result in extreme weather patterns which could result in flooding of communities  that border the oceans. In China people must wear masks given the problems of pollution. Arctic ice has melted putting stress on polar bears.

Many power plants now use gas. Solar panels, wind turbines, nuclear energy are other alternatives. When I visited France, I found that much of their energy was based on nuclear energy.

Soon we will pass from the scene. Our children grandchildren and  relatives I hope   will have better environmental conditions
Cookie on January 18, 2016 12:22 PM
Misguided progressive goverment policies = decreased revenues = decreased college funding--Economics 101

Vote for Hilliary and Bernie and turn the campus beautiful into a cow pasture. 
Fredrick Lucas on January 18, 2016 9:40 PM
Cookie, the US Information Center stated that in 2014 coal fired plants accounted to 39% onf electricity on the grid. Gas accounted for 27%. Nuclear accounted for 19% and hydroelectric accounted for 6%. Wind energy accounted for 4% and solar accounted for .4 percent. Gas accounts for far less pollution than coal.

The nations of the world agree that our carbon footprint must be reduced. Fred
Cookie on January 18, 2016 10:52 PM
Does China know about this?
Ched on January 19, 2016 2:54 PM
"carbon footprint" is a rather unscientific term. Carbon Dioxide is essential for plant life.  Methane is a much mor  significant green hous  gas.
It is always a good idea  to be environmentally prudent but  the whole  "global warming talk is  still just  a  theory about  which many disagree. Ther is a  reduction in artic ice but  a huge increase in antartic ice. Go figure !!

Carl on January 19, 2016 10:12 AM
My morning paper reports a fatal stabbing in Mississippi by a man wielding a replica Civil War sword.  It doesn't say if proposals are expected to limit the sale or increase background checks for swords.  Living, as I do, in a hotbed of Civil War history, interest and enthusiasm, I'm a bit anxious about public safety.  [At least with swords we won't have the concealed carry concern.]  And I'm bolstered by the adage, "never take a knife to a gun fight."  There being plenty of pistol packers in these parts, I may have to rely on the kindness of strangers.  Any way,  I'll try to keep you apprised of future developments.            MAGFAY
Fredrick Lucas on January 19, 2016 10:26 AM
I spoke with Mrs. Justice, Director of the Office of Advancement at Concord. She explained that these are challenging times for all state colleges and universities. The institutions are cooperating and are remaining viable. The college on the campus beautiful plans to continue to educate students. 

They can always use any donations. Fred
Carl on January 19, 2016 11:05 AM
J. Fred, you set a fine example for college loyalty and support.
geno on January 19, 2016 2:47 PM
YEAH, that coal burning is what's causing those earth quakes. Only egotistical men with small minds and big egos can even begin to think they can control the weather, and only idiots think they need to.
CHed on January 19, 2016 2:57 PM
Ditto !!!!
Carl on January 19, 2016 3:08 PM
Say, who you callin' an idiot?  Uh, wait!  Don't answer that.
Cookie on January 19, 2016 7:22 PM
Now wait just a minute Geno.....................You are telling me that only men with small minds think they can control the weather.  Does that mean that in 2008 when they told us a vote for hope and change would "stop the rise of the oceans?"  'Member' that?????
geno on January 20, 2016 12:38 PM
Yes I remember, I also remember the Alamo,, I do not remember the reporter who investigated the goverments temperature readings and reported the falsification of the temperature readings, does anyone out there remember his name and what happened to him, I think he was  employed by the Washington Post, not sure. I do know he has not been heard from since, only people who tell lies are afraid of debate. I will tell you this and I don't lie, only God almighty can control the weather, and also He Himself designed this world to outlast man's footprint upon it. Man will never destroy this planet, they do not have the power to do so. Man cannot create or destroy, they can change things, but only temporal things.
Mike Murphy on January 20, 2016 2:59 PM
Computer is working again - Hate the little iphone keyboard, like a cub bear with boxing gloves!

Wal Mart Closing in Mcdowell co - is also a casualty of the war on coal. All of the high minded libs like Fred should send donations to the Fish and Loaves food pantry in Kimball. Hope the Climate change folks are aware of the misery they are causing in the name of PC change. The climate is changing, always has and will continue, but to ruin an econonmy on the word of Al Gore is Ludicrice! No wounder everyone is mad at politicians and do gooders who do not have a grip on reality!

Geno - keep fighting the good fight.
Tracy - How is family?
Pete - Knees OK
Carl - In need of a poem!
Liar Liar Pants suit on fire!

Keep the faith
Fredrick Lucas on January 20, 2016 6:39 PM
Don't forget the world clomate summit in Paris Mike. Do you want me to pull up testimony of distinguished climate scientists?ARE YOU CONCERNED THAT EMPEROR PENGUINS AND POLAR BEARS  ARE UNDER STRESS BECAUSE THEY ARE LOSING THEIR FOOD SOURCE? fRED
Thomas Dillon on January 21, 2016 8:26 AM
Anyone of you getting or in line for some snow or ice? Be careful out there. Just rain and a little cooler weather here for a few days.
Carl on January 21, 2016 9:10 AM
TD, it's dazzlingly beautiful in F'burg, VA this a.m.: bright sun on a dusting of snow framed by blue skies -- an invigorating 23 degrees.  Tomorrow nite prediction of 8-12" of snow with 20 mph winds gusting to 30 mph, followed by perhaps 12" more.  Looks like there won't be school on Sat.  That has always pleased me.  [Actually, when Jim George, Jeff Shumaker, Mike Herring, Stan Hill, Sonny Goodwin & I began at Bluefield College in 1960, we did have Sat. classes -- the 2nd worst year of my "several" in college(s), made endurable by the fine company just listed.

Carl on January 21, 2016 11:21 AM

Now Murph, you surely know that you should be careful what you wish for.  The following is for everyone, but especially for YOU.

Murf, I’d love to respond with a rhyme

That would render you simply sublime,
But my poetic skill,
Both the bogus and real,
Seems to fail me, alas, at this time.

My near lifelong, heart-felt optimism,
Has reversed to a cold cynicism.
Here in 2016
The political scene
Has distorted my clear, sunny vision.

One would think, in this world full of riches,
One could navigate life with few glitches,
But my mind dwells on gloom
And I’m left to presume
That perhaps I’m too big for my britches.
[Say it ain’t so, Joe!]

While confused, tired and mad as a hatter,
I reminded myself that the matter
Can’t be unduly tough
If I reason enough:
Find Ms. Truth and throw pure logic at ‘er.

And you know, it worked, for heaven’s sake,
Just when nothing could snap me awake,
Truth revealed: I just heeded
This wisdom repeated:
"At this point, what difference does it make?"

Mike Murphy on January 21, 2016 12:00 PM
Carl- The difference is having a true friend like Thou! With such great talent!

Fred - It does bother me that families in Mcdowell co are going hungry due to your and BHOs war on coal! The last article I read about Polar Bears indicated that there were more of them now than before Gores misleading movie. frankly I could care less about penguins and polar bears compared to people. Next Libs will be for animal rights over humans? Perhaps Tom and Raymond can soothe your worried mind over the stressed animals, also I hear that the Crocidles are crying!

It is cold and snowing in downtown Kenna with a bad storm predicted for Friday.

Keep the faith
Ched on January 21, 2016 1:58 PM
WV and  Wyoming are being "hard hit" by this war on coal stuff.
 The "man caused"  climate  change stuff is  completely  theory since  the earth's  climate does  change and has  for millions of  years.  I agree that  we  should all be good  stewards of  the environment but  do so with common and economic  sense.
 Again  Antartic ice is INCREASING !!!

Tracy French on January 21, 2016 2:11 PM
While preparing my sermon for a funeral tomorrow I ran across the name "Schoolcraft".  I remember going to Knob School with a Johnny Schoolcraft.  Does anyone know what happened to him or where he is?

Mike:  The family is doing great.  Carol is back about 90%, doing all the laundry, dishes and most of the house cleaning.  She is not back to bringing my food and drinks into the TV room yet but we're getting there.  The next time she sees our primary doctor she plans to get a referral  to Dr. Branson in Princeton and have surgery on her ankel so the heel will go to the floor.

Carl:  I enjoyed the poem and look forward to another one.

I would write one back, but the knowledge I lack!
Ched on January 21, 2016 6:20 PM
 Your lat line is  an excellent  start!!!!
Thomas Dillon on January 21, 2016 6:41 PM
ā??Tracy, I remember Schoolcraft very well. He was in a boy scout troop with us and we went on a trip to the Great Smokey National Park one summer to hike the Appalachian trial. My brother Jim, Don Brohard, and Bobby & Lawrence Snead (family owned Snead's Men's Store) were other members of the group. Some of us went another time, but Johnny only went on the first trip. I know our second trip was during the summer before our sophomore year and the first the summer after the 7th grade. I think Schoolcraft's family moved away shortly after that as I don't remember him later in jr.high.
Ched on January 22, 2016 10:35 AM
Another name I remember is  John  Wayne  Wheeler. He  was on  the basketball team at Mercer.  Does  any one  remember or know  there he moved ???
Tom Dillon on January 22, 2016 4:00 PM
Yearout, I also remember John. I think he was a fairly decent ballplayer,small in stature, but somewhat of a rebel and frequently in trouble. I remember John and another player having been caught smoking. The coach, Chick Dalton I think, had the other members of the team decide upon their punishment. One option was to kick them off the team all together. This had to be in jr.high as the other player had gone to Knob. Don't remember what the team's decision was as to suspension, laps, expulsion, etc. 
Have no idea what happened to the young man.
Did you wish for all the snow?
Mike Murphy on January 22, 2016 7:46 PM
Snowing here in beautiful downtown Kenna, 10" with more to come.

Carl & Cookie - it appears a blizzard is headed your way - stay safe! by the way did either of youse win any awards for your writting skills?

Pray for the poor coal miners to keep our lights on!

Cookie on January 22, 2016 9:59 PM
I'll have to get back to you Mike.  I'm busy cutting grass.
Carl on January 22, 2016 10:05 PM
Ditto for me Murf.  I promised to drop by and help Cookie with the lawn care.  [Two feet ain't nothin' for an old West Virginian.]
Ched on January 22, 2016 11:46 PM
We have  about 6"-7" on the  ground in Nashville. The most sice 2003 Im told. Howeve, nothing like  the  fols in the NE are getting !!! 
  Stay warm and  safe  all!!!
Cookie on January 23, 2016 9:34 AM
NEWS FLASH NEWS MEDIA.....We've been having snow storms for a long time.  This is not our first rodeo.  
Honestly.  This is the weather when my mother would pack daddy's "dinner bucket" and put a change of clothes in an old navy duffle bag.  He would put on his warmest and pick up his "climbers" and head off in the orange AEP truck to keep the lights on.  All in a day's work.  And, if Frank Price showed up in the big yellow school bus you went to school.
Nuf Said!
P.S.  On the other hand, my back deck is 2 1/2 feet off the ground and someone has stolen it.  

Becky Novarro on January 23, 2016 2:16 PM
Last night the weatherman said there were snow flurries in the panhandle of Florida.  Any comment snowbirds?
Cookie on January 23, 2016 5:30 PM
That must have sent the snowbirds into a tail spin.  Last winter in Key West it got down to 55 and the locals pulled out their fur coats. Hope your kids in Jersey are ok.  
Snow refuses to leave.  Its drifting so badly they have pulled the snow plows off the road temporarily.  

Tracy French on January 23, 2016 6:04 PM
Becky:  I think the weatherman got it wrong.  There is a flurry of pickup trucks loaded with snow headed for the panhandle.  I remember a few years ago there was a man who drove from Florida to Bluefield to get a thermos bottle of snow to take back and show his wife.  It was front page news for the Bluefield Daily Telegraph along with a big picture of the man and his thermos.

I had a funeral in Beckley yesterday morning and got behind a tour bus at Exit 14 and he was afraid to go over 20 mph.  I had to follow him almost all the way to the toll booth before I could get around him.  They only had 1 lane open and it was in the middle of the road.  When I came back a couple hours later both lanes were open going south but there was no traffic.
Fredrick Lucas on January 23, 2016 9:23 PM
ppy that each of you are facing the challenging weather with resolve. A number of prople have struggled. On I=75 near Berea, motorists were stranded on the highway for 19 hours. Virginia had nearly 1000 wrecks. We had a non-event.Our total was three inches. The snow was removed from city streets and highways.Fred
Fredrick Lucas on January 23, 2016 9:41 PM
The storm was quite a challenge. Cities along the ocean were flooded. People on I-75 in central Kentucky were stuck for hours, Churches opened their doors for stranded  travelers. I imagine that the snow in West Virginia,, Virginia  and states further north also were challenged. 

Here we had a non event. We received three inches of snow and our streets and highways are clear.

I noted that Indiana also had a non-event. Fred
Pete Stephenson on January 23, 2016 9:40 PM
Pete,Thomas,I remember Johnny Schoolcraft in 10th grd.He was on the track team,Don't know what he did.I also saw him sometime before Douglas spt goods closed.He was working as a salesman for them.Mike the knees are giving me hell right now.I'm scheduled for double replacement the 16th of march.As it stands for now the accumulation for the hill here in princeton is about 16 inches in my front yard.quit snowing here about 4 this afternoon.Talking about the wall mart closings,I'm pretty sure it was because of the push for the minimun wage to go up.Naturally if that happens it would cut into their profit margens considerably.Nuff said tonight.Go pats and panthers,Faith Hope,love to all.
Fredrick Lucas on January 24, 2016 7:31 AM
Pete and Mike,

None of the Walmart stores in Cincinnati closed.  The volume must be high enough to allow a store to profit. McDowell County has many indigent folks who probably don't have the purchacing power to enable Walmart to remain open.

Mike regarding assistance to those who are indigent, I donate to food banks in Hamilton County which has a population of 805,000.


Carl on January 24, 2016 10:08 AM
Pete, good luck with the knee replacement.  I've had both done, the most recent one 3 months ago.  I'm nearly 100% and enjoying freedom that I haven't known for about 5 years.  Expect the recovery to be awful and the rehab painful and frustrating, but the results wonderful and liberating -- well worth it all.  Hope all goes well.  [Looks like you won't be doing much Irish dancing this St. Patrick's Day.  But 2017, look out!]
Fredrick Lucas on January 24, 2016 1:03 PM
Pete best wishes for your knee surgery. I haven't gone that route. I walk  one mile each day. I also swim and use the eliptical machine. 

Since Carl has been there and done that, he can give you his experiences. Fred
Carl on January 24, 2016 1:05 PM
J. Fred, that info is classified.  To get it you must have 1) the proper security clearance and 2) the "knee'd" to know.
geno on January 24, 2016 2:49 PM
Pete may you be blessed with quick recovery. Ol' Geno is feeling his age today, I finally have dug out, moved 20 tons of snow with backhoe, 5 tons with shovel (theory not fact) feels like 5 tons of work , my arms, legs, and back would attest to the five ton theory. I put my shovel up with much gladness and cheeeeeer, almost too breathless to cheer. But I can walk out the back or the front without the snow being over my boots, (wear tall boots), Mike the golf course is covered with a huge thick blanket of snow and no golfers. It is pretty, but it is also troublesome now, a few years ago this was fun, I dislike this change of attitude, I am beginning to think age plays a big part in how we see things, I was remembering the joy and feeling of awe I used to get when we got a big snow, a feeling of exictment and antipication, this snowfall seemed to bring dread and weariness, oh well, I hope you all are well and warm, and full of excitement and anticipation. 
Fredrick Lucas on January 24, 2016 6:42 PM
Returning to global warming, the subject was discussed in the December January February 2016 issue of the Audubon Society Magazine. They report that the Artic ocean  is almost ice free. According to the magazine, that is putting stress on birds and other animals who find food to eat. In the Feburary -March issue of the National Wildlife Federation, there is a discussion of the plight of the polar bears. In the December issue, they discuss the plight of the Emperor Penguin. They could go extinct.

I discussed unemployed coal miners with Casie Justice JD who is Director of the Concord Foundation. She said that unemployed miners are being retrained in other occupations.

The Beckley Hearld register reported that since the Affordable Care Act became effective, hospitals have not had to accept $267,000,OOO

in free medical care. The new patients  were covered by their insurance coverage. Fred
Ched on January 24, 2016 8:45 PM
 Nothing is  free. The  affordable care  act  ( OBAMA  CARE) has rased insurance premiums  for all who have  to purchase it without  substidies  and  also increased  deductables. Older  women now have" free"  birth control ad prenatal care and we all pay for it !!!! The ACA is  a severely flawed piece of legislation and must  be repealed  and replaced  with something  which makes  common sense !!!!
 To start  with, all insurance  companies  should have  to  complete  across all states !!!
Fredrick Lucas on January 24, 2016 9:04 PM
Ched, The Beckley paper reported the money that became avaiable to WV hospitals. In the past the hospitals would have to provide free care to uninsured patients.In other words indigent patients could not pay so hospitals had to absorb the cost of care.

Look I am simply the messenger. Fred

Cookie on January 24, 2016 10:47 PM
Is that kool aid grape or cheery.
Carl on January 25, 2016 10:23 AM
WARNING: the following is heavy on good intent but light on learning & wisdom (pretty much like my other comments).

Fredo, I took only one course in economics; went in dumb, came out dumb too.  However, I recall one basic principle, and it just happens to apply to your notion of hospitals absorbing costs.  For any business to survive in the long run, revenue must exceed expense.  Absorbing cost requires using "other" revenues, reserves or credit.  Reserves and credit are finite.  Thus, they limit how much cost can be absorbed.  The "magic" for long-term "cost absorbers" is to charge more to those who can and will pay -- plus gov't subsidies and other "contributions" -- to make up the difference.  "There's no free lunch."
Mike Murphy on January 25, 2016 11:49 AM
Carl - you are spot on. 75% of the WV folks who now have insurance under the ACA are on Medicade.
Fred- you do understand that medicade is all paid by taxpayers don't you! Your quoting of articles talking about stressed out Polar Bears and Penguins to support your stance on global warming infuriates me especially when you cloak it in "I am only the Messenger". Hard working people of WV want jobs to support their families and an economy that will support their work. Retraining for non existant jobs is sad especially when folks will have to leave their homes and relocate to get a job at half the wages. You must admit that you and your liberal president and friends have ruined the economy of West Virginia and have weak answers for your actions ie stressed polar animals!! and you ask why Trump is so popular?

Cookie - I think the Cool Aid flavor is Liberice -Stupidice!

24" of snow here finally got car out with help of neighbor with 4 wheel drive tractor. Geno - I need you and your back hoe.

Have a Blessed Day
Ched on January 25, 2016 12:34 PM
Mike  you are  correct  about  the Medicaid piece>  I know  that nationally, the huge increase in the insured population is  the Medicaid part plus  another  group  who get  substidies. We taxpayers pay for  this !!!
Insurance  costs  would be greately reduced by:
1) allowing open copmpetition across  state lines
2)  Permitting the insurees  to select more basic policies which fit  thier needs. ( a 65 year old  woman does not need  birth control and prenatal care)
3)Tort  reform to reduce  the practice of  defensive medicine.
4)  Health Savings Accounts ( HSA)  for  everyone.
My wife is not Medicare  eligible  yet  and her  insurance more  than  doubled  this  year !!! thanks OBAMA !!!
Cookie on January 25, 2016 12:53 PM
Ched:  Item 2 above:  Do not assume.  One never knows.  
geno on January 25, 2016 2:42 PM
Fredo, takle a good long look at global warming, ask yourself why would the folks begin to call it climate change, think about all the scientists that came out against global warming and were hushed up and not allowed to speak, think about all the folks that began to moniter the temperatures, and began to come forth with the truth. Global warming could not hold up, the polar ice cap has increased considerably in the last 2 years, all the Russian scientists declare that we are,(the world) is in a cooling period and wuill be for the next 25 years, the media will stifle any thi ng that disagrees with the big "O", but they cannot stifle the Russians. Why not take a look at Hank Williams Jr. For his remark about O's capability he has been banned from all media, and all, I repeat all the media has banned his songs and any comments, any one with any ki nd of common sense can see how this undermines whatr the U>S> stands for. You really need to get a fresh look at something other than the suppressing news of the Liberals who have but one agenda and that is to enslave Americans, check out the new moves the "O" is coming up with for a 3rd term, and do not think it can't happen, He has his own flag, you know, and only dictators have flags.....

Carl on January 25, 2016 4:53 PM
CONFESSION: Little did I know, or could I ever have imagined, that our modest little Blog would produce the variety, fervor, humor, pathos, nostalgia, joy, sorrow, concern, support, light-heartedness, (light-headedness?), and the gamut of emotions.  Keep up the good work!
Carl on January 25, 2016 4:55 PM
Deeter pointed out that I failed to mention all the fine poetry.
Fredrick Lucas on January 25, 2016 8:20 PM
Mike, I don't pay any attention to what you say. Ched, For many years physicians and dentists came to East Tennessee to treat indigent people. More than three thousand people came for a weekend. Now they have Medicaid. In Ohio Medicaid exists. I have a friend who needed eye surgery on both eyes. The operation took place at the University of Cincinnati . They accept Medicaid and were paid by them.

There are people who through no fault of their own, cannot work . They get Medicaid or Medicare through the disability provision.  There is a man in a group home in Lawrenceburg IN. who has a learning disability and can't work. He receives disability payments each month  and Medicare. Do you want to deny him and my friend  who needed eye surgery the right to decent living arrangements?

Geno remember when lead was taken out of gasoline? Do you remember when catalytic converters were developed? Remenber when Ethenol was developed? Ethenol was developed to stop engine knocks.Catalitic  converters were developed to cut down air pollution?

That is what the world decided to do in this case. They want to cut air pollution from carbon sources. When I was a child, I visited Affinity WV which was a coal camp. Coal dust coated the fallen leaves and they were blackened. I stayed inside through much of my visit becauce I didn't want to breathe coal  dust.

Have a joyful day everyone Fred

Cookie on January 25, 2016 11:10 PM
So does that mean that 50 years and trillions of $$$$ later "The Great Society" was a bust or a fraud or both????   Besides......I had 2 lawnmowers......designed for regular gasoline......ethenol killed both of them. Choked them to death!!!!!   Took them to the dump and hired a yard man instead.  He has worked out "real nice like."  
P.S.  War on Coal killed 500 West Virginia mining jobs effective March, 2016.  Maybe they can be retrained to become "yard men."  There is a great demand now that we have ethenol.  
Ched on January 26, 2016 1:26 PM
Retraining  sounds  good but  retrained  for  what jobs?  Where are  they?
Also some good  hardworking folks do not have  the  requisit  skills/knowledge  to be retrained  thus many  will end up on the public  dole !!!
Ched on January 26, 2016 1:23 PM
Ethanol  was not introduced  to reduce  engine knock it was  designed  to reduce  gasoline  consumption and burn "cleaner".  There  are  several issues  with  Ethanol. It  absorbs moisture  which can cause  damage in some  applications. Also there is less  energy in  ethanol than gasoline which reduces MPG  for  equivalent performance. Ethanol is probably not  economically viable  without  government  substities  which I disapprove of. The  government  should not prop up ANY industry.
 As  far as disability Medicare benefits, I support  this however Medicaid like  food  stamps and  welfare payments are widely  abused. It must be more  carefully  regulated  to insure  that only those  who  really need it  are  getting benefits. Food  stamps  should be limited  to essential nutricious items. Items like Soda pop, potatoe  chips and luxury foods  should be  dissallowed. I see  this  going on all the  time  and it make me  angery.   Food  stamp purchases at "convenience  stores" are  a  waste of  taxpayer money. If  we are  to get  serious  about  the  deficit  we must  control  the free stuff !!!!!
Mike Murphy on January 26, 2016 2:03 PM
Ethenol use made food prices go up esp in the USA and is mathmatically a loser allaround except for corn farmers and democrats who want their votes.

Planned Parenthood has succeded in having a grand jury indite the group of reporters who shot the videos showing their illegal sale of fetal tissue in some cases from viable babies. I guess they used the federal money that the Libs provided through the democrat congress and BHO.

Also the filmmaker who made the famous Bengazi video was put in jail and is stll there, by the BHO and Hillary Justice department although the video had absolutly nothing to do with the Terriorism that killed  the ambasador and 3 others. What difference does it make? Liar Liar Pants Suit on fire.

We need to get rid of these idiots in government even though $17.5 trillion is not enough for poor little fred's sincabilities?? Fred do you have any compassion for the out of work Miners? Since you don't care what I say, what difference does it make?

Keep the faith
geno on January 26, 2016 2:31 PM
Not to mention, just this past summer, last summer and part of the fall mercer county deputies arrested sevweral of food stamp recipiants buying groceries with their card and selling them at reduced prices for cash for drugs, I noticed there was little mention of this by the media. there was an investigation on catalytic convertors, when they found out there were harmful fumes and gases being expelled by them, all queries were stopped. Think about it after all that was done, suddenly things got worse, not better, more pollution than ever, if you believe the reports, shows to go we better go back to gasoline, Fred start your car and stnd behind that catalytic convertor, notice the burn in your eyes and throat, more than what ever came out of reg. gasoline, it seems nomatter what the lie, folks will line up to believe it. If you are unwilling to take a look at any thing else, you are too narrow minded to learn anything, that attitude is why "global warming" can not be debated, people that is pushing it cannot stand any opposition to it.
Carl on January 26, 2016 2:32 PM
Murf, I just want you to know that I, for one, do care about what you say, but that doesn't make any difference either.   ;-)
Fredrick Lucas on January 27, 2016 8:45 AM
You guys are too much for me. Whenever I state anything, I'm wrong and so are the sources that I have cited. To my critics, where are your sources?  You offer your opinions but no solid data.  I'm disappointd.

By the way, during the recent winter storm a number of cities that border the ocean were flooded   Fred
Cookie on January 27, 2016 12:10 PM
Sources:  Sometimes its common horse sense.  
geno on January 27, 2016 1:23 PM
Fredo, the only sources you quote are is our muffled media, they cannot print anything against the democrats, if you will not let these party affilliations dems or reps and go to Christian media you can learn some truths, every scientist that has come forward with information about climate change has not only been silenced but you never hear from him again. The radio statin in Atlanta has been muffled, most folks in America are being dumbed down and do not even know it. But enough of this, you are educated enough, much more than I, you can finsd resources if you WANT to. Has everbody weathered the storm????? Thank God we did not lose power or get shut down by the snow fall, as the song goes "I've a roof up above me,I've a good place to sleep, food on my table and shoes on my feet, thank you Lord for your blessings on me."  stay warm
Carl on January 27, 2016 2:20 PM
J. Fred, keep givin' 'em "what for."  As François-Marie Arouet [aka Voltaire] is alleged to have famously proclaimed, "I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it."

I know you as a man of principle, good will and generosity. 
[If you insist on "poking the bear," I assume that it gives you some measure of satisfaction.  So hang tough, my friend!  Perhaps someday another voice will rise on the blog to support your positions -- but that may not be the way to bet.] 
Mike Murphy on January 27, 2016 3:46 PM
Fred - Keep grabbing the Bull by the tail and looking the situation straight in the eye!

That was thartharetic said bugs bunny?

Keep the faith
Carl on January 27, 2016 4:50 PM
Now dog gone, Mike.  Here I go quoting Voltaire and you up the ante with your Trump card -- Looney Tunes.  And Bugs Bunny no less.  All this while I've taken you for more of an Elmer Fudd type: blusterbuss in hand with "breakfast hare" in mind.  Sometimes you just beat all.
Fredrick Lucas on January 27, 2016 5:53 PM
This is for Geno concerning Ethenol. In 2002, a law was passed requiring more natural products in gasoline. Ethenol which enhances octane was chosen . Corn is broken down and becomes alcohol. Since it enhances octane there is little engine knock. I own a Mazda 3 2010 and get good gas milage with no engine knock. Check the web site.A friend who is a retired chemical engineer who worked for a company developing plants that produce gasoline gave me the information about the benefits of alcohol in gasoline.

Ched regarding retraining of miners, check the West Virginia Workforce Development web site. Finally, when you talk about public assistance  reciepients who scam the system it happens. In the private sector Bernie Madoff, Enron and other companies who sold worthless housing deeds scammed the system causing pain to countless numbers.  Greed happens. Fred
geno on January 28, 2016 12:28 PM
Fredo. my grandpa and thousands like him made alcohol from corn for years, the gmen worked their tails off to stop them. I personally think corn is best for eating, used to thionk it best for drinking, the only people who think that man will wear this planet out is the people that knows nothing about God, when God made this planet he had plans to make man to live on it, they have built nothing that God did not know about, this planet will last longer than mortal man, all the yelling and denying people the pleasures of using what the earth provides will not change any thing, if you live another 20 yrs. you will look back on this as did the fore fathers who thought that sattelites would wreck the universe, remember in the fifties and early sixties, the screaming was "the ice age is coming" it didn't now it's reversed and you take a close look what "global warming" is costing the people, it's a sham and a shame, the sad part of it all is the majority of the American people are taking it in, without question or using any common sense. All that's left for you folks is go hag a tree, don't forget to bang your head on it a few times just to show you love it.
Cookie on January 28, 2016 3:47 PM
I just love the wit and wisdom of Geno.
Fredrick Lucas on January 28, 2016 5:00 PM
NBC had a program with Ann Curry that is on  You tubeIt concerns the  Arctic summer ice melting We can see the ice melting in the Arctic Circle. Many animals have disappeared. She interviewed an older gentleman who is an Inuit . A number of the Inuit who had lived in the area for thousands of years had abandoned their way of life and their villages because they could not sustain themselves with no food. The climate scientist who supports global warming suggested that floods storms, hurricanes and fires will become more violent as time passes. They interviewed the UN Secretary General  who supports lowering the carbon footprint.  Fred
Fredrick Lucas on January 29, 2016 7:15 AM
Geno did you forget that automobile pollution had to begin because smog in Los Angeles and other major cities created health problems? For many years, we had auto inspections to make certain that cars were in compliance with laws regulating air pollution. Fred
Fredrick Lucas on January 29, 2016 3:51 PM
The title of the NBC program on climate change is Climate Change just hit home with Ann Curry.   On youtube. Fred
geno on January 29, 2016 10:44 PM
AAAAAANNNNDDDD Fredo there are other scientists that disagree with those you cite. Internet, Nasa, if you only look to these you would think the whole world thinks like this, if you only look through one knothole in the fence, that's all the perspective you will ever have, The U>S> is not sinking, earth quakes have become 10 times more frequent, but not from man's footprint., the jet stream has dipped lower, I also remember when it did not dip so low, anybody can come out with any thing and someone will follow, that's why the Lord calls us sheep. All the ranting and raving will not change anything, throwing billions of dollars into the fray will only make the guys running the show rich, will not change anything, smog is bad in heavily populated areas, always has been, people will always get sick from breathing bad air, but take a realistic look, other than reducing  the population you cannot, nor can any politician change one day of clouds or one day of sunshine or even divert one waft of wind, although I might be inclined to believe there is very harmful emmissions of hot air coming out of D.C., maybe as harmful as the obnoxious gases coming from all the cows that's eating the ozone, which causes the rays of the sun to burn us up, I spent several weeks last summer, from early morning to almost dark working under an open sky, never seen anything or any one burn up, with the figures they put out, you yourself know nothing could withstand those rays for more than 5 hours, and yeeetttt people stay on the beaches sunbathing for hours, day after day after day, something has to be wrong with their figures, come to think about it I saw some women sunbathing and there wasn't any thing wrong with their figures, come to think about it maybe we are figuring about different figures to debate about. The only thing that will last is eternity, and that is in the spiritual world, been doing some study about the heathens in America, you know the Indian, very interesting about their visions of the spirit world, and the prophecies of their old men , facinating culture from heathens, I think we can learn quite a bit from them, did you know an ALL Indian tribes they have a story about a great flood passed down from their ancestry, that's  all about that, getting back to what we were talking about, I remember when I was a little boy, an acorn fell on somebody's head and everybody thought the sky was falling, anyway some little boy put his finger in a dyke and stopped the world from flooding then another cried wolf, and sure enough the little girl with a red hood on her car almost got picked up by a wolf dressed like a little ol' lady, why all this .....makes as much sense as tthe global warming theory, and after all it is a THEORY.
Fredrick Lucas on January 30, 2016 3:59 AM
Geno, if you play ball with me you need to research and have sources availaqble. which you don't have. Let's go back to smog. You live in a rural area. I live in a metro  area with 2.1 million people. The law in 2002 that regulated air pollution from automobiles has helped  control pollution. . Lead in gasoline was contributing to health problems. That is why it was removed . 

Why do you think that a world wide flood happened . When did such a thing ouccur ? Fred

Fredrick Lucas on January 30, 2016 8:11 AM
Ched and Cookie, The young man who recently made a video of Planned Parenthood  which was edited and distorted has been indicted by a grand jury in Houston Texas.He cas charged with making  a false California drivers licence. In addition  he was charged with making statements about purchasing embryos. 

Eleven states have investigated Planned Parenthood  and have determined that they did not violate any law.
Cookie on January 30, 2016 8:53 AM
Oh but wait your homework.......what about the CONFLICT OF INTEREST in the D.A's office.  Tell the full story or lets just "shoot the messenger."  
geno on January 30, 2016 3:39 PM
Fredo, I did not realize you were so uninformed, have you never delved into history , you stated you were Jewish by choice, then you should have read the Rabbilican account, surely a man with your intelligence would not enter into such a life changing event without much compillation, Did you never hear of Alexander The Great, read Daniel's account of it, by the way he wrote about it way before it happened, read Daniel's account of the United States before it became a nation, and by the way we celebrate July 4th, strangely enough 7:4 is the chapter and verse about the United States, in Daniel, that is found in your Jewish History, it is also in our HOLY BIBLE you will also find the flood in Jewish History, it is also in our HOLY BIBLE, however I think you will not check it out, I also think you have never read about fossilized fish found over i mile high in mountain ranges, have to go archeology books to find that, you be good boy do your home work and get back to me, you will not be graded on the curve. By the way, did you know it was the Jews that financed Columbus' expedition to America, few people do, Spain was going to kill or export all who did not turn to Catholism, you can find that IN the history of the Jews. I can see by your writings you have much to learn ask THE LORD to give you an enthusiasm to learn what you can, all it takes is dropping your pride and humbling yourself, you will be surprised what THE LORD will show you if you ask. Believe it or not I love you and so does Jesus.
Fredrick Lucas on January 30, 2016 4:11 PM
Going to a different subject. Dupont Chemical Company in Parkersburg made a chemical known as C-8 which was used to make Teflon for various products. The company was sued because women who worked in that environment were having children with various birth defects. When the company found that this occurred pulled the women from the line. 

Some of the chemical leaked into the water supply.  Eventually the company settelled with the workers for 343 million dollars. They were fined $16.4 million by the EPA for failure to report. the problem. Source-The Intercept on the Internet.
Fredrick Lucas on January 30, 2016 4:20 PM
Cookie why don't you enlighten us about the actions of the DA in Houston? Geno, this isn't a reeligious tretise. I am not going to have a religious discussion with you Fred
Cookie on January 30, 2016 7:00 PM
Well Fredo since you insist.

The Harris County Assistant D.A. is a fundraiser for their local Planned Parenthood and sits on their Board of Directors.
"Shoot the messenger" much?????

Put some baking soda on that and it will stop stinging.  
Ched on January 30, 2016 8:21 PM
The inditement is  a  sham !!!  wait  til it  gets  to  court!!!
Ched on January 30, 2016 8:19 PM
NBC ????? consider  the liberal  source !!!
Ched on January 30, 2016 8:16 PM
Fred  Yes ! and Brenie Madoff as well as Enron execs all went  to jail ... as  they  should!!!
Fredrick Lucas on January 31, 2016 9:51 AM
Ched, I'm disappointed in what you have said about NBC. They interviewed a climate scientist who has worked in the Arctic and has seen the changes in summer ice. The leader of the Inuit discussed the problems of his people trying to feed themselves and their families. A number of villages are abandoned. The secretary general of the United Nations  also favors lowering the carbon footprint. 

Guy what do you mean by liberal? Since you appear to be a climate change denier what experts do you cite.?



Mike Murphy on January 31, 2016 12:41 PM
We can all agree that the climate does change therefore we have weather men women persons?

Since we are getting less ice at the north pole and more ice at the south pole, could it be the earth's axis is tilting more, we do know that it wobbles around a lot and the magnetic north is changing? Ched - I would be interested in your take since you have an engineering background instead of Liberal Arts supported by the Huffington Post.

Why was it changed from Global Warming to Climate Change? Also did I not read that sun spots and solar flares affected climate?  

I look forward to a great super bowl with Carolina getting their first win. Would have liked to see the Patriots in SB but Denver's Defense deserves win!

Can see some grass, thank goodness, the Deer were about to strip shrubs to the bone!

Keep the faith

Ched on January 31, 2016 1:02 PM
My engineering background  does not  qualify me  as a climate  scientist however,
 I am NOT a  climate  change  denier !!! The  climate of the  earth does change  and has  for thousands of  yeares warming,  cooling, warming , cooling , etc , etc.  The  arctic ice is reduced and the  antarctic ice is increasing and  the net  effect is ... who knows???  as  the  systems of measurement are not precise. The  scientists are not in agreement as  to whether any of  this is the result man caused green house  gasses.
While CO2 is typically  labled  as  the bad actor, Methane (CH4) is  approximately 30 times more  potent  as  a GH  gas.  The primary source of methane comes  from decaying microorganisims in sediments  and  wetlands.
 CO2  and  water  vapor  are  also GH gasses. Both are  essential for plant life !!!


Mike Murphy on February 1, 2016 2:41 PM
WV Legislature is about to pass "Right to Work", Charter Schools and Open Gun Carry Legislation. I never thought I would see the day but it is on the way. Governor will veto and leg will override.

Also a good slate of candidates for Governor, Jim Justice and Booth Goodwin D, Kessler D not so much and Bill Cole R. All look ok except Kessler but I prefer Cole since all dems support ACA and closed shop.

Keep the faith
Ched on February 1, 2016 4:47 PM
"Right to Work" is  a must  for any chance  to  attract industry !!!! 
Fredrick Lucas on February 1, 2016 7:51 PM
Ched I was surprised that you failed to mention the plightof the Inuit who have had to abandon their villages in the Arctic Ocean area because the ice in the summer has melted so fast.

Wasn't it sad that two Virginia Tech students murdered a thirteen  year old girl. Fred
Cookie on February 1, 2016 9:20 PM
I could write a dissertation on what would possess two bright college students with endless opportunity to commit such a crime but I'm afraid my right wing logic would fall on deaf ears.  I'll just keep beating my drum.....
"It all started at Woodstock."
Carl on February 1, 2016 9:28 PM
J. Fred, I know what a strickler for, and protector of, the factual truth that you are.  As of now, I believe that only one Va Tech student is charged with murder.  The other is charged with two, non-murder offenses.  I'm certain, based on your many past comments, that you'd want the record set straight.
Fredrick Lucas on February 2, 2016 4:59 AM
Yes Carlos, the female student was an accomplice in that she helped move the child's body. I will be interested to learn what motivated those students to do such a horrible thing.School shootings really are horrible events.

Carlos, the Norfolk Southern Railroad will close the district office in
Bluefield according to the Daily Telegraph.
Fredrick Lucas on February 2, 2016 6:48 AM
Mike, I didn't realize that Kenna is near Ripley and Left Hand. You are not in an urban metropolitan environment and don't face the challenges that we face every day. So our priorities and needs are different. Our thoughts about government will be different.?

Do you have a mayor, city council, fire department, university , police force, hospital? What shopping centers do you have? Do you find these services in Ripley? What about lLeft Hand ? Fred

Thomas Dillon on February 2, 2016 11:29 AM
Mike Herring's birthday today. Happy birthday cous.

Our paper this morning reported that the two who killed the little girl in Virginia were both freshmen at Tech studying engineering. The two had lived near one another in Maryland where they attended high school and teachers and administrators there thought they had very bright futures.

Fred, you ask why. I think primarily is that evil does exist and there are no longer any absolutes. Many things today are relative, gray, whatever the majority thinks. Without faith in God and perhaps a belief in the possibility of spending enternity with Him, people just give up, don't consider human life sacred, and do whatever they wish.

Secondly, an answer is DRUGS. I don't know if this is a contributing issue in Virginia, but the atrocities that are committed due to someone being high on drugs and/or seeking money and/or stealing to purchase more are frightening. In an adjacent county next to where we are staying in Florida, the graduation rate in high school is 49%. We thought it might be due to the lack of jobs as the primary industry is fishing (oysters and shrimp), but were told that it is due to drugs -- meth is very easy to obtain.

Hey Texans, Will, JK, I am sure you read this blog. Any thoughts about Mr. Cruz?
geno on February 2, 2016 3:32 PM
Shootings, killing little girls, same old story of good and evil, see, Fred can't get away from religion, like  pres, Tom said.
Carl on February 2, 2016 4:19 PM
[Thanks for the heads-up, Tom Dillon.]
Becky Novarro on February 2, 2016 4:52 PM
Happy Birthday, Mike. Congratulations on living another year. We all need to be grateful for the gifts we are given and often forget what we have because we are looking for more. If you open your eyes in the morning and are still here, it's a good day. My son-in-law apologized to his children for them having to grow up in such a frightening time. We old folks sure did have a wonderful childhood. It's a shame people have chosen such evil.
Fredrick Lucas on February 3, 2016 7:41 AM
Geno and others, I would like all of you to feel free to attend our religious service. Go to the web site Isaac Wise Temple Cincinnati on any Friday at 6:15 pm. Our services are live stream video and last about one hour and fifteen minutes. Fred 
Mike Murphy on February 3, 2016 1:06 PM
Tom - Wisely said - I agree totaly.

We seem to have abandoned individual responsibility to do what is right in lieu of the government doing everything for us. There seems to be a societal excuse for every crime including Islamic Extremism.

Good results from the Iowa Caucus at least in terms of turn out.

Fred - I am not sure what your point is about Kenna and my perspectives on government and since you don't pay any attention to what I say - "What Difference Does It Make"?

Carol - Looks like Rand is concentrating on Kentucy - to bad he brought a needed perspective to the campaign.

Keep the faith
Fredricko Lucas on February 3, 2016 9:08 PM
Mike you live in a tiny hamlet. The State of West Virginia does not allow public sector workers to unionize for which you agree. In Ohio public sector workers are able to belong to unions and engage in collective bargaining.Wages in the public sector lag far behind those in other states. 

Private sector workers can organizea union and participate in collective bargaining. General Electric Aircraft Engine and Ford Transmission workers are organized and participate in collectivr bargaining. Kroger Employees are organized. Proctor and Gamble  and Macy employees aren't organized. Employees have freedom of choice. These companies represent several thousand workers. Your tiny hamlet and left hand don't have to deal with these concerns. Fred

Mike Murphy on February 3, 2016 9:33 PM
Fred - So?
Cookie on February 3, 2016 11:57 PM
Lordy Mercy Fredo
How did you learn so much stuff????? You couldn't possibly have gone to school in West Virginia.  
Could you go to New Hampshire and infuse some newness into the dialogue because that bunch they have there this week has begun to make my eyes glass over-----and its on F E B R U A R Y.   
Cookie on February 3, 2016 11:59 PM
.........that would be "only" February.  
Ched on February 4, 2016 11:44 AM
Public  sector unions are bankrupting city and  state  governments where  they exist. Unions in the  Federal Government  shlould be  abolished; not  so much because of  pay but because of  all the "work rules'" which  undermine  efficiency prevent appropriate  discipinary action including  termination !!!
 My experience in industry is  similar

Ched on February 4, 2016 11:52 AM
Industry has moved out of  the north  to the  southern states which have  right  to  work. Smart  companies pay very good  and  competitive  wages / benefits  to  thwart unions.  Companies  endeavor  to remove  the  economic  reasons  for their  teammates  to organize. Union dues  are significant and are used  to advance political agendas of the unions  on which many  southerners  do not  agree.The unions stifle  shop efficiency and discipline  when necessary.
Fredrick Lucas on February 4, 2016 7:38 PM
Ched, where is your data? When I was employed by the State of Ohio and we had collective bargaining . The State of Ohio still has collective bargaining. Krogers, General Electric Aircraft Engines, Ford and construction companies that use unions allied with the skilled trades are still around. 

Ched where is your data? What you give us is your opinion, Do you know how to find data?
Fredrick Lucas on February 4, 2016 7:45 PM
Returning to the murder in Blacksburg, it was reported that young Eisenhauer had attended a Christian  High School. The lawyer for the young woman who was his accomplice stated that she is mentally ill.

Watching the mother talk about her slain daughterwho had both teenage as well as child like qualities  was so sad.   Fred
Fredrick Lucas on February 4, 2016 9:00 PM

When I worked with the State of Ohio, I was a member of AFSCME or the American Federation of State County and Municipal Employees. During collective bargaining, statistians estimated state county and municipal revenues and we bargained for wages and benefits based upon the projections. No governmental county, state or municipal entity went bankrupt. 

Regarding using union money for political purposes, in Ohio, governmental employees can give to a special political fund. It isn't required.


Cookie on February 4, 2016 10:25 PM
I also belonged to a union -- only for the legal protection and representation should a parent decide to sue me and to support me when and if I was assaulted--which I might add did indeed happen.  I had a small problem with the union.  I eventually decided it was a giant ponzi scheme.  The unions never endorsed my political candidate nor was I ever given a vote on whom they should endorse nor was I ever given an opportunity to vote on how much of my money they gave the candidates.  Rest assured the candidate was always liberal, progressive and in no way represented my views.  

The union greased the politicians hand and the politicians policies in turn ensured survival of the union.  

I know all about AFSME.  Even if a state employee here decides not to join--the dues are still deducted from their paychecks and I have never known them to endorse a conservative political candidate. 

I'm not sure today's unions are the unions of the great Matwan mine strike.
Ched on February 4, 2016 10:57 PM
I have been in industry  for over 40 years  and have  seen first hand  the effect of unization. First hand experience  trumps data in this case !!! Just look at  the migration of heavy industry from the north to  the south !!! End of  discussion !!!
Mike Murphy on February 5, 2016 9:44 AM
Fred - I thought you were all about choice. Wouldn't you want it to be your choice to join a Union or Not?

I supervised the new and expanding industries program for the state of West Virginia for 10 years and worked closely with the economic development department and employment security to attract new industries to WV. Right to work was one of the factors for relocation especially for larger industries. North and South Carolina beat our butt most of the time. Recent study by WVU showed right to work states attracted more new industries.

Interesting side story - we had a program for an industry making tennis shoes in Davis WV. They made 42,000 pair of kids shoes sizes 2-4 during the initial training. Since they could not be sold we gave them to welfare for wv kids.

Boone County Schools to lay off 80 employees due to war on coal. Hope you tree huggers are happy!

Keep the faith

Ched on February 5, 2016 10:04 AM
Mike  you are  100% correct. RTW is  the key !!!
Mike Murphy on February 7, 2016 12:15 PM
Look out the Panthers are going to maul the Broncos!
Carl on February 7, 2016 12:25 PM
Murf, thanks for the prediction.  Knowing that you're picking the Panthers gives me added hope that the Broncos will find a way . . . some how.

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